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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 28, 2020 14:43:36 GMT -6
None of that changes the fact that the new analytics-based approach brought by Luhnow turned this franchise around, and that Strom benefitted from it. there is no way of knowing exactly what analytics brought to the success of the franchise. I am not denying that analytics helped but I think to much credit is given to their usage. 3 consecutive 100+ win games
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Post by Saint on Jan 28, 2020 15:05:57 GMT -6
there is no way of knowing exactly what analytics brought to the success of the franchise. I am not denying that analytics helped but I think to much credit is given to their usage. 3 consecutive 100+ win games For real, not to mention two pennants and a championship. We were doing just fine before all of that mumbo jumbo.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 28, 2020 15:13:53 GMT -6
3 consecutive 100+ win games For real, not to mention two pennants and a championship. We were doing just fine before all of that mumbo jumbo. Please specify as to how many of those wins would have been losses without the benefit of analytics. As I said, I don't deny that they are helpful,but, let's not be foolish enough to think they are the only reason for our success. Crane must not think analytics were that important or he wouldn't be about to hire an idiot like Dusty Baker who can't spell analytics.
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Post by olpapa on Jan 28, 2020 15:40:54 GMT -6
I read that the umps are going to be miked this season so that they can explain their rulings to the crowd. Now that should be interesting.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 28, 2020 15:43:54 GMT -6
Thankfully, we still have Strom and he pay a lot of attention to spin rate. It has worked so why change it. Y'all give Strom a lot of credit when we don't have any idea how much of is it him, and how much of is the information he is being given. ***** Thank you. It’s ridiculous how he gets all the praise and little to no blame. I like him and all, but it’s not like he invented the curveball.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 28, 2020 15:44:07 GMT -6
I read that the umps are going to be miked this season so that they can explain their rulings to the crowd. Now that should be interesting. Personal foul on the offense #80,15 yard penalty, replay the down.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 28, 2020 15:46:13 GMT -6
Now all we need now is a New York reporter to say something racist...and the script is flipped... ***** Hoping for the YES Network to use the n-word during an Astros game.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 28, 2020 16:17:23 GMT -6
For real, not to mention two pennants and a championship. We were doing just fine before all of that mumbo jumbo. Please specify as to how many of those wins would have been losses without the benefit of analytics. As I said, I don't deny that they are helpful,but, let's not be foolish enough to think they are the only reason for our success. Crane must not think analytics were that important or he wouldn't be about to hire an idiot like Dusty Baker who can't spell analytics. Baker is here to take on a lot of backlash...I don't see him taking a lot of media's crap....I didn't want Baker, but now I understand and it was the right move for the organization....This is a face-lift....
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 28, 2020 16:18:00 GMT -6
Y'all give Strom a lot of credit when we don't have any idea how much of is it him, and how much of is the information he is being given. ***** Thank you. It’s ridiculous how he gets all the praise and little to no blame. I like him and all, but it’s not like he invented the curveball. Shut your mouth.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 28, 2020 16:23:12 GMT -6
Now all we need now is a New York reporter to say something racist...and the script is flipped... ***** Hoping for the YES Network to use the n-word during an Astros game. That would be great...We would also need an LA Dodgers Exec to say the same....then checkmate, we are back in business.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 28, 2020 16:35:35 GMT -6
Please specify as to how many of those wins would have been losses without the benefit of analytics. As I said, I don't deny that they are helpful,but, let's not be foolish enough to think they are the only reason for our success. Crane must not think analytics were that important or he wouldn't be about to hire an idiot like Dusty Baker who can't spell analytics. Baker is here to take on a lot of backlash...I don't see him taking a lot of media's crap....I didn't want Baker, but now I understand and it was the right move for the organization....This is a face-lift.... Since Belichick wasn’t available for our press conferences, Dusty will do.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 28, 2020 16:45:56 GMT -6
The more I think about it, the more I’m a tad okay with Baker as manager. I definitely don’t like it for the pitchers and because I feel that baseball has passed him by, but in terms of handling the media and exhibiting a no-nonsense and impatient approach, it’s alright.
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Post by Saint on Jan 28, 2020 16:48:54 GMT -6
On the plus side, the only pitchers I would really worry about are McCullers and Whitley. JV and ZG will do what they've always done.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 28, 2020 16:50:09 GMT -6
I have said earlier a good trade Partner would be the Reds Nick Senzel, Micheal Siani, Nick Lodolo and Jose Acosta For Carlos Correa and Framber Valdez.
This would be a great trade for both teams and would make the Reds a Very very Good top 3 team in the NL.
I get evwryone wants Lugo. I just dont see the Mets trading him to us. The Reds are All IN. This would be the time to capatilize on that.
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Post by olpapa on Jan 28, 2020 17:00:42 GMT -6
The more I think about it, the more I’m a tad okay with Baker as manager. I definitely don’t like it for the pitchers and because I feel that baseball has passed him by, but in terms of handling the media and exhibiting a no-nonsense and impatient approach, it’s alright. One disadvantage of having a manager like Hinch who is about the same age as his players is that he might be hesitant to lay down the law to a bunch of guys his own age. Maybe he wants to be their buddy so he doesn’t want to offend them. That should not be an issue with Baker.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 28, 2020 17:04:12 GMT -6
Please specify as to how many of those wins would have been losses without the benefit of analytics. As I said, I don't deny that they are helpful,but, let's not be foolish enough to think they are the only reason for our success. Crane must not think analytics were that important or he wouldn't be about to hire an idiot like Dusty Baker who can't spell analytics. Baker is here to take on a lot of backlash...I don't see him taking a lot of media's crap....I didn't want Baker, but now I understand and it was the right move for the organization....This is a face-lift.... I hope he doesn't destroy all the pitchers during the face lift.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 28, 2020 17:08:13 GMT -6
The more I think about it, the more I’m a tad okay with Baker as manager. I definitely don’t like it for the pitchers and because I feel that baseball has passed him by, but in terms of handling the media and exhibiting a no-nonsense and impatient approach, it’s alright. One disadvantage of having a manager like Hinch who is about the same age as his players is that he might be hesitant to lay down the law to a bunch of guys his own age. Maybe he wants to be their buddy so he doesn’t want to offend them. That should not be an issue with Baker. hinch allowed Bregman's antics to get out of control and was scared to deal with Correa's "issues" when he knew Correa had to be lying about how he fractured a rib.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 28, 2020 17:20:14 GMT -6
Baker is here to take on a lot of backlash...I don't see him taking a lot of media's crap....I didn't want Baker, but now I understand and it was the right move for the organization....This is a face-lift.... I hope he doesn't destroy all the pitchers during the face lift. I hate to say this but I don't see Verlander or Greinke staying with the Astros after the 2021 season....that could be Baker's last season as well...he seems to be as a hired hand right now.
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Post by marshall on Jan 28, 2020 17:20:21 GMT -6
Other than one reporter saying they've made a decision, is there any secondary source that the decision has actually been made. The posts seem to take it as gospel.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 28, 2020 17:22:31 GMT -6
Other than one reporter saying they've made a decision, is there any secondary source that the decision has actually been made. The posts seem to take it as gospel. Meaning good news.
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Post by olpapa on Jan 28, 2020 17:42:54 GMT -6
Other than one reporter saying they've made a decision, is there any secondary source that the decision has actually been made. The posts seem to take it as gospel. Meaning good news. Well done grasshopper
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Post by olpapa on Jan 28, 2020 17:58:50 GMT -6
I’m hoping our new GM can find a way to move Reddick before opening day. No need to waste another year of Tucker’s career. He is either ready or he never will be. We won’t find out with him playing at AAA or riding the bench in Houston.
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Post by m240 on Jan 28, 2020 19:27:02 GMT -6
Tucker’s ops last year was 857. Limited PAs but 857 nonetheless
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Post by olpapa on Jan 28, 2020 19:32:19 GMT -6
Tucker’s ops last year was 857. Limited PAs but 857 nonetheless Time to pay Reddick to play elsewhere.
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Post by m240 on Jan 28, 2020 19:53:00 GMT -6
Tucker’s ops last year was 857. Limited PAs but 857 nonetheless Time to pay Reddick to play elsewhere. Sounds good to me
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 28, 2020 20:27:57 GMT -6
Tucker’s ops last year was 857. Limited PAs but 857 nonetheless Time to pay Reddick to play elsewhere. Tucker needs to play every day, We would have to package Reddick to get much for him.
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Post by olpapa on Jan 28, 2020 20:37:02 GMT -6
Time to pay Reddick to play elsewhere. Tucker needs to play every day, We would have to package Reddick to get much for him. I agree. If we can get some team to take him and pay some of his $13 million, I would be thrilled. I’m thinking our best chance of moving him will be if some contender loses their starting right fielder for the season and wants a veteran replacement to fill in for the rest of this season.
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Post by olpapa on Jan 29, 2020 9:28:20 GMT -6
One disadvantage of having a manager like Hinch who is about the same age as his players is that he might be hesitant to lay down the law to a bunch of guys his own age. Maybe he wants to be their buddy so he doesn’t want to offend them. That should not be an issue with Baker. hinch allowed Bregman's antics to get out of control and was scared to deal with Correa's "issues" when he knew Correa had to be lying about how he fractured a rib. Hinch also allowed Altuve to make base running gaffes repeatedly and never stopped him. I don’t think Baker will let Altuve run amuck to the detriment of the team.
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Post by Saint on Jan 29, 2020 9:35:18 GMT -6
If Altuve could have Bagwell's baserunning IQ he'd be untouchable.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 29, 2020 10:47:02 GMT -6
Baker is about to be 71....Verlander, Greinke, Correa, McCullers will all be FAs after 2021 season...Do you realistically see Baker being the manager for 2022 season?
FTR -I know week ago, I had Baker as one of the worst choices...But given the Astros current situation, I think Baker is the best hire....
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