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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 9:50:12 GMT -6
You're becoming as bad as Marshall, Catfish. Because I call out one sleazy low life mf-ing agent? Sucks to be me huh?  |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 6, 2019 10:39:35 GMT -6
You're becoming as bad as Marshall, Catfish. Because I call out one sleazy low life mf-ing agent? Sucks to be me huh? Just keep on preaching it.....you are right on target........Boras is scum and players who continue to use him are avoided by many teams because they aren't willing to play his game.......Keuchel got hosed by this asshole and I won't cry if others do. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 6, 2019 10:54:20 GMT -6
You're becoming as bad as Marshall, Catfish. Because I call out one sleazy low life mf-ing agent? Sucks to be me huh? They are all sleazy, and most of the players are reprobates. So are the owners. So are a huge number of fans. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 6, 2019 11:00:00 GMT -6
I also get tired of people saying guys are "only playing for the money" when they go for the biggest contract. Wtf turns down extra millions? Cliff Lee turned down more money from NYY to be with the Phillies, and I think Scherzer did the same to Detroit to sign with Washington
I could be wrong about Scherzer though
I guess I should have said, "Who is going to be upset if a guy doesn't turn down extra millions?" |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 6, 2019 11:13:46 GMT -6
I do not like Boras. However, if my son had enough talent to make it, I would want Boras as his agent.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 11:21:21 GMT -6
I do not like Boras. However, if my son had enough talent to make it, I would want Boras as his agent. Hope he doesn't get Kuecheled.....  |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 6, 2019 11:30:16 GMT -6
I do not like Boras. However, if my son had enough talent to make it, I would want Boras as his agent. Hope he doesn't get Kuecheled..... You frequently point out the "Keucheled", but nary a mention of the $300,000,000 contracts he got for his client just this year. Or the $150,000,000 he got for Altuve. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 6, 2019 11:35:42 GMT -6
I do not like Boras. However, if my son had enough talent to make it, I would want Boras as his agent. That's how I feel about Geoffrey Fieger. He's repulsive but if I was ever in deep shit, I'd want him as my lawyer. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 11:40:26 GMT -6
Hope he doesn't get Kuecheled..... You frequently point out the "Keucheled", but nary a mention of the $300,000,000 contracts he got for his client just this year. Or the $150,000,000 he got for Altuve. Don't spoil my agent hate mojo man....... |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 6, 2019 11:46:19 GMT -6
You frequently point out the "Keucheled", but nary a mention of the $300,000,000 contracts he got for his client just this year. Or the $150,000,000 he got for Altuve. Don't spoil my agent hate mojo man....... Refocus your foul thoughts on a more appropriate target: Saint |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 6, 2019 12:16:57 GMT -6
Hope he doesn't get Kuecheled..... You frequently point out the "Keucheled", but nary a mention of the $300,000,000 contracts he got for his client just this year. Or the $150,000,000 he got for Altuve. Yep, he got Altuve that big contract and I am glad we got Altuve locked up. I just hope that giving him all that money doesn't prevent us from being able to extend Springer, who is just as valuable. if not more valuable to the success of the team. The offense suffered more when George was on the IL than it did while Jose was there. Sometimes we forget how one guy getting a huge deal hurts us when it comes to being able to keep other players that we need. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 6, 2019 12:25:55 GMT -6
I do not like Boras. However, if my son had enough talent to make it, I would want Boras as his agent. Precisely. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 6, 2019 12:27:17 GMT -6
You frequently point out the "Keucheled", but nary a mention of the $300,000,000 contracts he got for his client just this year. Or the $150,000,000 he got for Altuve. Yep, he got Altuve that big contract and I am glad we got Altuve locked up. I just hope that giving him all that money doesn't prevent us from being able to extend Springer, who is just as valuable. if not more valuable to the success of the team. The offense suffered more when George was on the IL than it did while Jose was there. Sometimes we forget how one guy getting a huge deal hurts us when it comes to being able to keep other players that we need. When Springer was hurt, the offense looked a little out of sorts. When Correa was out, the offense didn’t miss a beat. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 6, 2019 12:35:20 GMT -6
It’s not redneckery. It’s a comparison of how ridiculous the automatic rage is that everyone has over Boras and his clients. At least with Beto it makes sense. Owners and GM’s try to save as much money as the others try to seek more. Cole isn’t both a guy who insults him the team for wearing a Boras cap but then also supposedly makes his teammates liars by denying he said he wanted to go to California. He’s not a villain for trying to do what’s best for him or for the agent he chose to represent him. Okay I'll play.... Wearing a Bora$$ hat the day after a WS loss is not considered a diss on the team, which includes the town, and fans that cheered him on? Please explain why. Before what was Game 6, Tom Verducci stuck the mic in Reddick's face and asked about Cole's plans. His response that he was told (assumption Cole) that he wanted to go to CA. Cole then announces about 2 days later that his options are wide open. I really don't want to argue the semantics of what a "lie" is, but these two statements (IMO) are totally contradictory. And FWIW, I never to meant to make Cole out to be a villan. I just hope his agent's council is just as much a disaster as Kuechels. i.e. Bora$$ is the villan, and the happier I am is when his rep is sullied. 1. Never was a fan of Cole’s tantrum after Game 7, but I don’t blame his mood after Hinch’s ultraconservative approach. 2. Reddick shouldn’t have said anything at all about Cole’s intentions. I’m sure whatever he told him was said in confidence. I don’t care what Cole said to address that. 3. Boras will do whatever he needs to do to get the most for his clients and himself. However, whatever he does is with the consent of his clientele. He is no villain either. He doesn’t put a gun to anyone’s head and force them to hire his clients. 4. As for Keuchel, he made a bad move. He keeps going around calling himself a Cy Young winner, but he’s so far removed from that level of dominance. He’s a #3 SP wanting ace money. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 6, 2019 13:11:50 GMT -6
Those of you wanting us to pursue Rendon, look at this from Passan:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 13:14:50 GMT -6
Okay I'll play.... Wearing a Bora$$ hat the day after a WS loss is not considered a diss on the team, which includes the town, and fans that cheered him on? Please explain why. Before what was Game 6, Tom Verducci stuck the mic in Reddick's face and asked about Cole's plans. His response that he was told (assumption Cole) that he wanted to go to CA. Cole then announces about 2 days later that his options are wide open. I really don't want to argue the semantics of what a "lie" is, but these two statements (IMO) are totally contradictory. And FWIW, I never to meant to make Cole out to be a villan. I just hope his agent's council is just as much a disaster as Kuechels. i.e. Bora$$ is the villan, and the happier I am is when his rep is sullied. 1. Never was a fan of Cole’s tantrum after Game 7, but I don’t blame his mood after Hinch’s ultraconservative approach. 2. Reddick shouldn’t have said anything at all about Cole’s intentions. I’m sure whatever he told him was said in confidence. I don’t care what Cole said to address that. 3. Boras will do whatever he needs to do to get the most for his clients and himself. However, whatever he does is with the consent of his clientele. He is no villain either. He doesn’t put a gun to anyone’s head and force them to hire his clients. 4. As for Keuchel, he made a bad move. He keeps going around calling himself a Cy Young winner, but he’s so far removed from that level of dominance. He’s a #3 SP wanting ace money. Well, we have some agreement, and then some differences in opinion. That's the glory of having spirited fans discussing baseball matters. A lot of my curmudgeon leanings, are being an old scholl baseball fan, where and when salaries, services, and expenses where aligned with ordinary living. I have some '60's programs of when I went to the dome as a kid and the prices were at least comprable to other forms of entertianment of the day. Then things went to shit. As I mentioned in an earlier post the cost of baseball attendance has exceeded 5X the Nation's CPI. There is no damn reason for that, except greed. I can mention of at least a dozen times in the past 10 or so years that I have asked a child (wearing team gear) a specific of what he liked about going to the game.... 90% the time the parent will chime in and say that they can't afford it, or it is too high to go. This greed, will end up killing the game so close to the golden goose parody, that it is scary. A vast majority of youth in this country are losing interest in this game, and I don't blame them So, if I decide that the most heinous of these culprits (owners, players, agents) is the Used car salesmen like agent? That's my business. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 13:19:05 GMT -6
Those of you wanting us to pursue Rendon, look at this from Passan: He has one breakout season, and he expects 5/$200M? ($40M annually) No thanks..... |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 6, 2019 13:30:18 GMT -6
Those of you wanting us to pursue Rendon, look at this from Passan: He has one breakout season, and he expects 5/$200M? ($40M annually) No thanks..... That's not attributed as being what HE expects, but rather what "experts" think he'll get. People on this forum are talking about Cole being too expensive, and saying we should pursue this guy...who is looking to cost more than cole. Interesting though, that he turned down a $200m offer already, from the Nats. The same article that my quote came from predicts that Cole could get an EIGHT YEAR contract. No way would I sign a pitcher to that long of a contract. |
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Post by sempersmom on Nov 6, 2019 14:00:58 GMT -6
I love Jose Altuve. Great interview before game 7.
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 6, 2019 14:09:41 GMT -6
Yep, he got Altuve that big contract and I am glad we got Altuve locked up. I just hope that giving him all that money doesn't prevent us from being able to extend Springer, who is just as valuable. if not more valuable to the success of the team. The offense suffered more when George was on the IL than it did while Jose was there. Sometimes we forget how one guy getting a huge deal hurts us when it comes to being able to keep other players that we need. When Springer was hurt, the offense looked a little out of sorts. When Correa was out, the offense didn’t miss a beat. Takng all of those third called strikes out of the lineup was a plus.....many of them with RISP......George is the sparkplug of the offense and we must get him signed to an extension, |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 6, 2019 14:14:29 GMT -6
Those of you wanting us to pursue Rendon, look at this from Passan: i can't see anyone giving Rendon $40 million a year. I would like to have him and think we should enter into negotiations. But, Crane isn't going to pay him that kind of money. If we were going to give $40 contracts, we would offer it to Cole. Rendon will be on the market as long as Machado and Harper if they stick to those demands. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 6, 2019 14:28:35 GMT -6
Those of you wanting us to pursue Rendon, look at this from Passan: i can't see anyone giving Rendon $40 million a year. I would like to have him and think we should enter into negotiations. But, Crane isn't going to pay him that kind of money. If we were going to give $40 contracts, we would offer it to Cole. Rendon will be on the market as long as Machado and Harper if they stick to those demands. He turned down a $200MM extension offer from Washington. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 14:36:28 GMT -6
He has one breakout season, and he expects 5/$200M? ($40M annually) No thanks..... That's not attributed as being what HE expects, but rather what "experts" think he'll get. People on this forum are talking about Cole being too expensive, and saying we should pursue this guy...who is looking to cost more than cole. Interesting though, that he turned down a $200m offer already, from the Nats. The same article that my quote came from predicts that Cole could get an EIGHT YEAR contract. No way would I sign a pitcher to that long of a contract. Same song, same dance..... his expectations, versus experts. How does a player with (1) break out season think he's worth Trout money? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 6, 2019 14:58:05 GMT -6
i can't see anyone giving Rendon $40 million a year. I would like to have him and think we should enter into negotiations. But, Crane isn't going to pay him that kind of money. If we were going to give $40 contracts, we would offer it to Cole. Rendon will be on the market as long as Machado and Harper if they stick to those demands. He turned down a $200MM extension offer from Washington. He may regret that decision. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 6, 2019 15:08:04 GMT -6
That's not attributed as being what HE expects, but rather what "experts" think he'll get. People on this forum are talking about Cole being too expensive, and saying we should pursue this guy...who is looking to cost more than cole. Interesting though, that he turned down a $200m offer already, from the Nats. The same article that my quote came from predicts that Cole could get an EIGHT YEAR contract. No way would I sign a pitcher to that long of a contract. Same song, same dance..... his expectations, versus experts. How does a player with (1) break out season think he's worth Trout money?I think Rendon is asking for more than he'll be worth but I also think you're under-rating his history. Yes, his most recent year was definitely his best. But the two seasons before that were very good. OPS+ of more than 135 both years. Sixth in the MVP voting for 2017 and eleventh in 2018. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 15:08:43 GMT -6
He turned down a $200MM extension offer from Washington. He may regret that decision. Let's see... Rendon @$40M/yr 2020- 2024. or...... Mike Trout, the best player on the planet..... $35.4M every year until 2030. You got that right coach. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 15:10:49 GMT -6
Same song, same dance..... his expectations, versus experts. How does a player with (1) break out season think he's worth Trout money?I think Rendon is asking for more than he'll be worth but I also think you're under-rating his history. Yes, his most recent year was definitely his best. But the two seasons before that were very good. OPS+ of more than 135 both years. Sixth in the MVP voting for 2017 and eleventh in 2019. 2019 MVP voting is complete? I still consider this the only season he has had, that would warrant "elite" status money for a MLB player. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 6, 2019 15:33:26 GMT -6
2019 MVP voting is complete? Ooops! "Did I do that?" [/Irkel voice] I still consider this the only season he has had, that would warrant "elite" status money for a MLB player. Sure, I agree. But when you say a player has only had one 'breakout' year, that make it sound as if he was just kinda average before that. He was way above average. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 15:38:28 GMT -6
2019 MVP voting is complete? Ooops! "Did I do that?" [/Irkel voice] I still consider this the only season he has had, that would warrant "elite" status money for a MLB player. Sure, I agree. But when you say a player has only had one 'breakout' year, that make it sound as if he was just kinda average before that. He was way above average. I agree there. I think it is more descriptive to state that one breakout year, does not make or deem a player "elite" status". |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 6, 2019 15:52:36 GMT -6
A breakout year, by definition, can only be one year.
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