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Post by Saint on Nov 7, 2019 16:52:44 GMT -6
Am I missing something? Are we suddenly not getting enough good minor league prospects, high school draft picks, international picks and free agents?
Our talent pool is only getting younger and younger every year ("Soto is only 21").
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 7, 2019 16:53:43 GMT -6
Despite being a Republican, I admit I'm a bit of a socialist when it comes to college athletes. When one considers how much revenue college football generates for a university, those are the most exploited out of everyone Each should receive an annual $5000 stipend if they keep their noses clean |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 16:54:20 GMT -6
How did Nolan play the nepotism game? Reid was there before Nolan. He is the CEO of his father's company that owns a number of businesses. Reid didn't build the company. Reid didn't make enough money to buy the company. How do you think Reid got involved? Daddy got Reid involved. The real head scratcher is what Crane's son brings to the table versus the entire Ryan family. Quoting John Lovitz.... "That's the ticket" /s. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 7, 2019 16:54:44 GMT -6
I don't understand how you (supposedly) anti-socialism, anti-big-government, anti-welfare "conservatives" can hold such liberal, socialist ideals. You're perfectly happy to force "them" to give up "their" money to some sad sack, but would take up arms if someone suggested you do the same. Big difference in forced massive taxation associated with socialism , and a volunteer based 1% surcharge. I mean 1 freakin' percent, that will help the long term health of the sport. WTF..... Let's become football, and let the NCAA dictate our game's future. /s You've hinted at your own wealth. You're perfectly free to adopt some sad sack minor leaguers and support their pursuit of their dreams. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 7, 2019 16:55:43 GMT -6
Despite being a Republican, I admit I'm a bit of a socialist when it comes to college athletes. When one considers how much revenue college football generates for a university, those are the most exploited out of everyone Each should receive an annual $5000 stipend if they keep their noses clean The schools are providing 2 assets to the athletes: A "degree", and a springboard to millions of dollars as a pro athlete. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 7, 2019 16:56:23 GMT -6
Despite being a Republican, I admit I'm a bit of a socialist when it comes to college athletes. When one considers how much revenue college football generates for a university, those are the most exploited out of everyone Each should receive an annual $5000 stipend if they keep their noses clean That's a whole nother argument. I think they should receive a percentage for the work they're putting in, personally. But again, they know what they're getting into. They aren't forced and they're getting free college educations. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 7, 2019 16:57:40 GMT -6
He is the CEO of his father's company that owns a number of businesses. Reid didn't build the company. Reid didn't make enough money to buy the company. How do you think Reid got involved? Daddy got Reid involved. The real head scratcher is what Crane's son brings to the table versus the entire Ryan family. Quoting John Lovitz.... "That's the ticket" /s. It doesn't matter. His company and his son. If he wants to keep the business in the family (as most families of all business do) then it's his choice and its a reasonable one. If I owned a company I'd want my son to take it over when I die. I'd want him to learn the business from me and get good at it too. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 7, 2019 17:02:31 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 17:03:29 GMT -6
Big difference in forced massive taxation associated with socialism , and a volunteer based 1% surcharge. I mean 1 freakin' percent, that will help the long term health of the sport. WTF..... Let's become football, and let the NCAA dictate our game's future. /s You've hinted at your own wealth. You're perfectly free to adopt some sad sack minor leaguers and support their pursuit of their dreams. Average MLB salaries are over $4.5M I am doing alright, but my annual investment returns aren't near that. If I was a MLB player, and remembered toiling for wages that almost required a welfare check? Yeah I'd pony up for my less fortunate brethren. And as far as supporting sad sacks, I have plenty of family to fit that bill. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 17:05:35 GMT -6
The real head scratcher is what Crane's son brings to the table versus the entire Ryan family. Quoting John Lovitz.... "That's the ticket" /s. If I owned a company I'd want my son to take it over when I die. I'd want him to learn the business from me and get good at it too. You'd start him at the executive level? You don't realize how cringeworthy that is. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 7, 2019 17:09:47 GMT -6
You've hinted at your own wealth. You're perfectly free to adopt some sad sack minor leaguers and support their pursuit of their dreams. Average MLB salaries are over $4.5M I am doing alright, but my annual investment returns aren't near that. If I was a MLB player, and remembered toiling for wages that almost required a welfare check? Yeah I'd pony up for my less fortunate brethren. And as far as supporting sad sacks, I have plenty of family to fit that bill. Again, not willing to pony up out of your own pocket but happy to make someone else do it. Is that you, AOC? |
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Post by sempersmom on Nov 7, 2019 17:13:16 GMT -6
If I owned a company I'd want my son to take it over when I die. I'd want him to learn the business from me and get good at it too. You'd start him at the executive level? You don't realize how cringeworthy that is. From the Chron: "According to Jared Crane’s LinkedIn profile, his most recent job title was regional vice president, business development at Crane Worldwide Logistics. Jared obtained a bachelor's degree in business from California Lutheran University in 2007 and worked various jobs at Champion Energy Service from 2002-08 — when his father was CEO and director of the company. Jared Crane founded Incite Energy in 2012. Last September, he sold the company’s assets to Infinity Power Partners LLC and CSD Energy Advisors LLC."
I think his dad has been grooming him to take over. Nothing wrong with that. It's his family business.
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 7, 2019 17:15:55 GMT -6
How did Nolan play the nepotism game? Reid was there before Nolan. He is the CEO of his father's company that owns a number of businesses. Reid didn't build the company. Reid didn't make enough money to buy the company. How do you think Reid got involved? Daddy got Reid involved. Daddy being pissed off could end up biting Crane in the ass, too. Astros players........especially pitchers........respected Nolan and went to him for advise. I doubt if little Crane has the respect of the players that the Ryans had. Big daddy Crane is over-reacting to losing the WS......He told Luhnow to get Greinke thinking that locked it up and it didn't happen........Could be there was more overall dissension than anyone knew.......Isn't it odd that a team that dominated at home and hit well there during the season lost all 4 WS games at home and didn't play well at all? How many were unhappy because Correa sat on his ass over half of the season and then decided he was healthy for the post season where he sucked most of the time? Tbings wil get intersting before all is said and done............I just hope things don't start golng downhilll. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 7, 2019 17:19:54 GMT -6
The real head scratcher is what Crane's son brings to the table versus the entire Ryan family. Quoting John Lovitz.... "That's the ticket" /s. It doesn't matter. His company and his son. If he wants to keep the business in the family (as most families of all business do) then it's his choice and its a reasonable one. If I owned a company I'd want my son to take it over when I die. I'd want him to learn the business from me and get good at it too. Putting your son in charge if he isn't as qualfied or more qualified than who he replaced is not good business sense. Crane is the owner and can do as he pleases but I doubt if his son is as qualified as Reid Ryan for that position. The Cranes may be business geniuses but I doubt they have the knowledge the Ryans possess in building a baseball franchise. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 7, 2019 17:24:04 GMT -6
Please don't leave, Nolan!
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 7, 2019 17:25:44 GMT -6
It doesn't matter. His company and his son. If he wants to keep the business in the family (as most families of all business do) then it's his choice and its a reasonable one. If I owned a company I'd want my son to take it over when I die. I'd want him to learn the business from me and get good at it too. Putting your son in charge if he isn't as qualfied or more qualified than who he replaced is not good business sense. Crane is the owner and can do as he pleases but I doubt if his son is as qualified as Reid Ryan for that position. The Cranes may be business geniuses but I doubt they have the knowledge the Ryans possess in building a baseball franchise. Jim Crane is a billionaire businessman...I hardly think he's bumbling along, ruining his companies, by making poor staffing decisions. Also, I think you overestimate the power that one Justin Verlander has in the business model of this organization. He's not making out the line up, and he's not deciding who can be the President of Baseball Operations. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 7, 2019 17:48:52 GMT -6
Putting your son in charge if he isn't as qualfied or more qualified than who he replaced is not good business sense. Crane is the owner and can do as he pleases but I doubt if his son is as qualified as Reid Ryan for that position. The Cranes may be business geniuses but I doubt they have the knowledge the Ryans possess in building a baseball franchise. Jim Crane is a billionaire businessman...I hardly think he's bumbling along, ruining his companies, by making poor staffing decisions. Also, I think you overestimate the power that one Justin Verlander has in the business model of this organization. He's not making out the line up, and he's not deciding who can be the President of Baseball Operations. Is there a bigger baseball legend than Nolan alive? I don't think so. It would be like the Yankees pissing off the Babe. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 7, 2019 17:55:46 GMT -6
Springer and Bregman win Silver Sluggers.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 7, 2019 17:56:33 GMT -6
Jim Crane is a billionaire businessman...I hardly think he's bumbling along, ruining his companies, by making poor staffing decisions. Also, I think you overestimate the power that one Justin Verlander has in the business model of this organization. He's not making out the line up, and he's not deciding who can be the President of Baseball Operations. Is there a bigger baseball legend than Nolan alive? I don't think so. It would be like the Yankees pissing off the Babe. So? He doesn’t own the Astros. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 7, 2019 18:18:07 GMT -6
Putting your son in charge if he isn't as qualfied or more qualified than who he replaced is not good business sense. Crane is the owner and can do as he pleases but I doubt if his son is as qualified as Reid Ryan for that position. The Cranes may be business geniuses but I doubt they have the knowledge the Ryans possess in building a baseball franchise. Jim Crane is a billionaire businessman...I hardly think he's bumbling along, ruining his companies, by making poor staffing decisions. Also, I think you overestimate the power that one Justin Verlander has in the business model of this organization. He's not making out the line up, and he's not deciding who can be the President of Baseball Operations. I am not questioning his ability to build a business......I am just saying being a billionaire businessman doens't give him the baseball background to make all decisions regarding the building of a baseball franchise. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 7, 2019 18:19:31 GMT -6
Is there a bigger baseball legend than Nolan alive? I don't think so. It would be like the Yankees pissing off the Babe. So? He doesn’t own the Astros. Being the owner doesn't mean he has the necessary knowledge in making baseball decisions. It means he controls the money and can do as he pleases......good or bad. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 7, 2019 18:54:00 GMT -6
Is there a bigger baseball legend than Nolan alive? I don't think so. It would be like the Yankees pissing off the Babe. So? He doesn’t own the Astros. I don't want to see Nolan leave again. I know it's just business.... |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 7, 2019 19:13:15 GMT -6
Springer and Bregman win Silver Sluggers. And Grienke too. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 7, 2019 19:43:34 GMT -6
Springer and Bregman win Silver Sluggers. And Grienke too. well deserved |
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Post by olpapa on Nov 7, 2019 19:50:22 GMT -6
Despite being a Republican, I admit I'm a bit of a socialist when it comes to college athletes. When one considers how much revenue college football generates for a university, those are the most exploited out of everyone Each should receive an annual $5000 stipend if they keep their noses clean The schools are providing 2 assets to the athletes: A "degree", and a springboard to millions of dollars as a pro athlete. I’m thinking that for most of these athletes the increased chance to make millions as a pro athlete is the one and only asset the schools provide. I mean, really, most of these “student” athletes probably couldn’t spell “cat” if you spotted them the C and the A when they entered college and still can’t when they leave. I doubt that the majority of college athletes ever earn a degree. |
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Post by marshall on Nov 7, 2019 19:55:31 GMT -6
Despite being a Republican, I admit I'm a bit of a socialist when it comes to college athletes. When one considers how much revenue college football generates for a university, those are the most exploited out of everyone Each should receive an annual $5000 stipend if they keep their noses clean I have no sympathy for the "exploited" college athlete when they are on full scholarships while real students are paying $40,000/yr to actually study their asses off for what is often a piece of paper that keeps them from getting the same job they could have gotten without the piece of paper that actually pays more. Of course I heard that old overqualified BS way too often. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 7, 2019 20:07:13 GMT -6
The schools are providing 2 assets to the athletes: A "degree", and a springboard to millions of dollars as a pro athlete. I’m thinking that for most of these athletes the increased chance to make millions as a pro athlete is the one and only asset the schools provide. I mean, really, most of these “student” athletes probably couldn’t spell “cat” if you spotted them the C and the A when they entered college and still can’t when they leave. I doubt that the majority of college athletes ever earn a degree. If nothing else, they're benefitting by the priority acceptance over your kid and mine who aren't star athletes. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 7, 2019 20:08:14 GMT -6
Despite being a Republican, I admit I'm a bit of a socialist when it comes to college athletes. When one considers how much revenue college football generates for a university, those are the most exploited out of everyone Each should receive an annual $5000 stipend if they keep their noses clean I have no sympathy for the "exploited" college athlete when they are on full scholarships while real students are paying $40,000/yr to actually study their asses off for what is often a piece of paper that keeps them from getting the same job they could have gotten without the piece of paper that actually pays more. Of course I heard that old overqualified BS way too often. Son, what is the deal with that avatar? |
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Post by olpapa on Nov 7, 2019 20:11:50 GMT -6
I’m thinking that for most of these athletes the increased chance to make millions as a pro athlete is the one and only asset the schools provide. I mean, really, most of these “student” athletes probably couldn’t spell “cat” if you spotted them the C and the A when they entered college and still can’t when they leave. I doubt that the majority of college athletes ever earn a degree. If nothing else, they're benefitting by the priority acceptance over your kid and mine who aren't star athletes. True. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 7, 2019 20:16:02 GMT -6
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