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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 17, 2019 15:29:29 GMT -6
OK......I am going out on a limb here and say who I think will be the first player we sign as a free agent. and, wasn't an Astro in 2019: ZACK WHEELER I’m thinking Grandal. We can re-sign Chirinos and have Stubbs back him up and spend the money on pitching. I like Grandal, but, I think it would be cheaper to go another route. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 17, 2019 15:32:24 GMT -6
Someone said it before, but I am going with Rick Porcello....He is a classic Luhnow signing...bounce back candidate and he has decent spin rate... Porcello would be a good addition,but, I doubt if Wheeler would be as costly. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 17, 2019 15:50:49 GMT -6
Someone said it before, but I am going with Rick Porcello....He is a classic Luhnow signing...bounce back candidate and he has decent spin rate... Porcello would be a good addition,but, I doubt if Wheeler would be as costly. Pretty Ricky had a bad year in 2019. I predict he'll have to sign cheap for one year in 2020 to re-establish value. I think Wheeler is in a position to demand a decent salary for several years.
Of course some GM might prove me wrong, but I would only take a chance on Porcello on a deal that could easily be written off and he could be dumped to open a roster spot if he flounders.
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 17, 2019 15:55:10 GMT -6
Someone said it before, but I am going with Rick Porcello....He is a classic Luhnow signing...bounce back candidate and he has decent spin rate... Porcello would be a good addition,but, I doubt if Wheeler would be as costly. I like Wheeler too, but he is #3 rated Free Agent pitcher....he is not Cole or Strasburg money, in the 30Ms a year range....but he could be in the 18-20M range.... |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 17, 2019 16:18:24 GMT -6
Porcello would be a good addition,but, I doubt if Wheeler would be as costly. I like Wheeler too, but he is #3 rated Free Agent pitcher....he is not Cole or Strasburg money, in the 30Ms a year range....but he could be in the 18-20M range.... I have heard it discussed that Wheeler could get a 4-year deal at $18 million per year or 5 years at $20 milliion per year. So, your numbers look about right. In my opinion, Wheeler would be a better addition than Porcello for the money, |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 17, 2019 16:20:44 GMT -6
I hope to God they don't sign some mid-tier pitcher to a 4 or 5-year deal.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 17, 2019 16:54:25 GMT -6
I hope to God they don't sign some mid-tier pitcher to a 4 or 5-year deal. You got PTSD from Scott Feldman memories? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 17, 2019 17:03:52 GMT -6
I hope to God they don't sign some mid-tier pitcher to a 4 or 5-year deal. I don't think signing Wheeler to a four year deal would be out of line. |
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Post by olpapa on Nov 17, 2019 17:39:55 GMT -6
I’m hoping they sign Wheeler and Pomeranz.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 17, 2019 18:16:28 GMT -6
I hope to God they don't sign some mid-tier pitcher to a 4 or 5-year deal. You got PTSD from Scott Feldman memories? Imagine if they'd have given Miley a multi-year contract. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 17, 2019 19:13:01 GMT -6
I’m hoping they sign Wheeler and Pomeranz. That would be awesome....but I think that is the ceiling of what we should expect. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 17, 2019 19:24:03 GMT -6
I’m hoping they sign Wheeler and Pomeranz. I am still trying to understand why you are impressed with Pomeranz. I remember we hit him pretty well when he was with Boston.  |
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Post by olpapa on Nov 17, 2019 19:35:33 GMT -6
I’m hoping they sign Wheeler and Pomeranz. I am still trying to understand why you are impressed with Pomeranz. I remember we hit him pretty well when he was with Boston. Check his stats as a relief pitcher vs a starting pitcher. Huge difference last season and for his career. I would want him for a lefty out of the bullpen only...., and he should not be that expensive. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 17, 2019 20:26:54 GMT -6
You got PTSD from Scott Feldman memories? Imagine if they'd have given Miley a multi-year contract. My gosh. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 17, 2019 20:28:06 GMT -6
I like Grandal because instead of three free outs at the bottom of the order, there’ll just be two.
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 17, 2019 21:00:37 GMT -6
OK......I am going out on a limb here and say who I think will be the first player we sign as a free agent. and, wasn't an Astro in 2019: ZACK WHEELER Bumgarner. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 17, 2019 23:53:20 GMT -6
I am still trying to understand why you are impressed with Pomeranz. I remember we hit him pretty well when he was with Boston. Check his stats as a relief pitcher vs a starting pitcher. Huge difference last season and for his career. I would want him for a lefty out of the bullpen only...., and he should not be that expensive. We need a lefty in the pen, and, if he has been good in relief and not expensive, he may be worth signing, |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 17, 2019 23:55:30 GMT -6
I like Grandal because instead of three free outs at the bottom of the order, there’ll just be two. They won't spend $16 million on a catcherl |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 17, 2019 23:56:06 GMT -6
OK......I am going out on a limb here and say who I think will be the first player we sign as a free agent. and, wasn't an Astro in 2019: ZACK WHEELER Bumgarner. I have a hunch he signs close to home...........Atlanta. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 18, 2019 6:05:39 GMT -6
I like Grandal because instead of three free outs at the bottom of the order, there’ll just be two. They won't spend $16 million on a catcherl Not so much worse than $30 million plus on a guy who throws the ball every five days and not even in a Game 7. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 18, 2019 10:18:38 GMT -6
They won't spend $16 million on a catcherl Not so much worse than $30 million plus on a guy who throws the ball every five days and not even in a Game 7. A pitcher the caliber of Cole or Verlander is worth a lot more than a catcher. You must have good catching but they are cheaper than top starters. Chirinos knows our pitchers and earned a new contract.....one that would be a LOT less than Grandal will want. He turned down a 4 yr/$60 million offer from the Mets last off season. After the year he had, he will want around %$20 million a year. We can Wheeler for that or less,. |
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Post by sempersmom on Nov 18, 2019 13:38:22 GMT -6
Brian McTaggart Retweeted
Bob Nightengale
@bnightengale
The Houston #Astros sign 1B Yuli Gurriel to one-year, $8.3 million contract with $250,000 in award bonuses for 2020, and he has the right to declare free agency at the end of the season. Gurriel had the right to go to arbitration if he had not signed the guaranteed contract.
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Post by Saint on Nov 18, 2019 13:42:09 GMT -6
Boom. Offseason moves done!
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 18, 2019 15:16:22 GMT -6
Boom. Offseason moves done! Everyone’s excited but it’s not like they’re keeping him longer than before. He’s just getting a raise. |
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Post by sempersmom on Nov 18, 2019 15:35:51 GMT -6
Boom. Offseason moves done! Everyone’s excited but it’s not like they’re keeping him longer than before. He’s just getting a raise. Would you be happier if there were another negative story posted about the Astros instead? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 18, 2019 15:38:16 GMT -6
Everyone’s excited but it’s not like they’re keeping him longer than before. He’s just getting a raise. Would you be happier if there were another negative story posted about the Astros instead? Why would that make me happy? I like Yuli. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 18, 2019 15:39:30 GMT -6
Brian McTaggart Retweeted Bob Nightengale @bnightengale The Houston #Astros sign 1B Yuli Gurriel to one-year, $8.3 million contract with $250,000 in award bonuses for 2020, and he has the right to declare free agency at the end of the season. Gurriel had the right to go to arbitration if he had not signed the guaranteed contract. Interesting twist. Yuli was making $10.4M in 2019 so he likely would have made more through arb. It's rare that a player takes a pay cut in arb even if he stinks (which Yuli didn't in 2019).
Also, his final arb year would have been 2021 without this contract.
Apparently he wants to get to FA, asap.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 18, 2019 15:41:23 GMT -6
Brian McTaggart Retweeted Bob Nightengale @bnightengale The Houston #Astros sign 1B Yuli Gurriel to one-year, $8.3 million contract with $250,000 in award bonuses for 2020, and he has the right to declare free agency at the end of the season. Gurriel had the right to go to arbitration if he had not signed the guaranteed contract. Interesting twist. Yuli was making $10.4M in 2019 so he likely would have made more through arb. It's rare that a player takes a pay cut in arb even if he stinks (which Yuli didn't in 2019).
Also, his final arb year would have been 2021 without this contract.
Apparently he wants to get to FA, asap.
The 2021 season could be very different. We’d better make the most of it while we can. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 18, 2019 15:41:49 GMT -6
Brian McTaggart Retweeted Bob Nightengale @bnightengale The Houston #Astros sign 1B Yuli Gurriel to one-year, $8.3 million contract with $250,000 in award bonuses for 2020, and he has the right to declare free agency at the end of the season. Gurriel had the right to go to arbitration if he had not signed the guaranteed contract. Interesting twist. Yuli was making $10.4M in 2019 so he likely would have made more through arb. It's rare that a player takes a pay cut in arb even if he stinks (which Yuli didn't in 2019).
Also, his final arb year would have been 2021 without this contract.
Apparently he wants to get to FA, asap.
Rats abandoning a sinking ship  |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 18, 2019 15:43:03 GMT -6
Interesting twist. Yuli was making $10.4M in 2019 so he likely would have made more through arb. It's rare that a player takes a pay cut in arb even if he stinks (which Yuli didn't in 2019).
Also, his final arb year would have been 2021 without this contract.
Apparently he wants to get to FA, asap.
Rats abandoning a sinking ship I do like picking higher in the draft... |
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