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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 22, 2019 13:17:03 GMT -6
All I’ve got to say is that after the Greinke trade, this is the worst possible time to lose draft picks. Very painful.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 22, 2019 14:46:50 GMT -6
This is one of the reasons i think we need to try and get some young guys from a couple of trades. We are gonna hurt in a couple of years. And if and I say if they do some kind of no draft compensation if you of the current players on our roster leaves the team regardles of the player. Then we would be really screwed. Js. The way this is playing out its like we are gonna get more then a slap on the wrist. We are gonna get atleast a Black eye or two We haven't lost anything yet. Key word YET. js Its comming Theres to much damming evidence against us. From video and auto to butt hurt players
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2019 14:49:19 GMT -6
We haven't lost anything yet. Key word YET. js Its comming Theres to much damming evidence against us. From video and auto to butt hurt players Okay, Woodward and Bernstein.... Give us the scoop of all the so much damning evidence. Outside an interviewed Fiers.... Give us the facts man..... Anxiously waiting for this breaking news. Rumours, innuendo, and hearsay all suck by themselves enough, without being generated by some of our so called fans.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 22, 2019 14:54:13 GMT -6
Our best option for a catcher is Chirinos with Stubbs as backup. I agree with this, been my take too... Things to get done in the off-season: Trade Correa, Reddick and Marisnick Re-sign Chirinos Sign a #3 grade SP to a 4 year deal Sign two bullpen arms Correa, Reddick, Yuli and Marisnick. I think we could retool with a trade of all of those guys. This is the easiest route. Yuli will not stay here, and why in the sam Hell would you want him to at his age? Js Capitalize while you can. That way if and I say If you can make some strong offer to a FA this year or next you will have money to play with. You want to keep Springer but we stillneed money.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 22, 2019 15:04:01 GMT -6
Key word YET. js Its comming Theres to much damming evidence against us. From video and auto to butt hurt players Okay, Woodward and Bernstein.... Give us the scoop of all the so much damning evidence. Outside an interviewed Fiers.... Give us the facts man..... Anxiously waiting for this breaking news. Rumours, innuendo, and hearsay all suck by themselves enough, without being generated by some of our so called fans. It was just said Manfried had warned the Astros before about this. Rumors? I believe its not just Mike Fiers who has accused the Astros. Damn calm your horse nipples
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2019 15:06:27 GMT -6
Okay, Woodward and Bernstein.... Give us the scoop of all the so much damning evidence. Outside an interviewed Fiers.... Give us the facts man..... Anxiously waiting for this breaking news. Rumours, innuendo, and hearsay all suck by themselves enough, without being generated by some of our so called fans. It was just said Manfried had warned the Astros before about this. Rumors? I believe its not just Mike Fiers who has accused the Astros. Damn calm your horse nipples Two posts earlier you specifically stated "SO MUCH DAMMING EVIDENCE". Lay it on us, big guy.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 22, 2019 15:16:53 GMT -6
It was just said Manfried had warned the Astros before about this. Rumors? I believe its not just Mike Fiers who has accused the Astros. Damn calm your horse nipples Two posts earlier you specifically stated "SO MUCH DAMMING EVIDENCE". Lay it on us, big guy. They are saying Manfreds team is looking into the 2018 and 2019 season. The evidence is there pal. Do you not watch the reports or you dont own a TV? Your still on Dial up arent You? Js The evidence clearly shows the Astros did something to let the Batters know what was comming. No one will be spaired Maybe Beltran since he was considered a player not a Coach.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2019 15:24:07 GMT -6
Two posts earlier you specifically stated "SO MUCH DAMMING EVIDENCE". Lay it on us, big guy. They are saying Manfreds team is looking into the 2018 and 2019 season. The evidence is there pal. Do you not watch the reports or you dont own a TV? Your still on Dial up arent You? Js The evidence clearly shows the Astros did something to let the Batters know what was comming. No one will be spaired Maybe Beltran since he was considered a player not a Coach. ^^^^^^^^^^^ Folks, absolute sterling example of how to lose your credibilty in one easy lesson. Son, the concepts of innuendo, rumormongering, and heresay are a tad above you level of understanding, aren't they? You've convicted all the "no one will be spaired (LOL)", without any due process or even getting all sides of the story. Are you even an Astros fan?
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 22, 2019 15:45:05 GMT -6
I agree with this, been my take too... Things to get done in the off-season: Trade Correa, Reddick and Marisnick Re-sign Chirinos Sign a #3 grade SP to a 4 year deal Sign two bullpen arms Correa, Reddick, Yuli and Marisnick. I think we could retool with a trade of all of those guys. This is the easiest route. Yuli will not stay here, and why in the sam Hell would you want him to at his age? Js Capitalize while you can. That way if and I say If you can make some strong offer to a FA this year or next you will have money to play with. You want to keep Springer but we stillneed money. I highly doubt if yuli is traded...at least not now.....his contract was restructured so he can be a free agent at the end of next season. He will be on a one-year deal paying him $8.3 million with $250,000 in award bonuses written in. That could have been done to free up money for Springer. In any case, extending Springer is a MUST and should be top priority this off season.
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 22, 2019 15:46:40 GMT -6
They are saying Manfreds team is looking into the 2018 and 2019 season. The evidence is there pal. Do you not watch the reports or you dont own a TV? Your still on Dial up arent You? Js The evidence clearly shows the Astros did something to let the Batters know what was comming. No one will be spaired Maybe Beltran since he was considered a player not a Coach. ^^^^^^^^^^^ Folks, absolute sterling example of how to lose your credibilty in one easy lesson. Son, the concepts of innuendo, rumormongering, and heresay are a tad above you level of understanding, aren't they? You've convicted all the "no one will be spaired (LOL)", without any due process or even getting all sides of the story. Are you even an Astros fan? notice how he says "they are saying" but never says who "they" are......another confidential source. LOL LOL
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 22, 2019 16:01:31 GMT -6
batman007 posted a summary of the video evidence on the "Thoughts on Spygate" thread and it looks pretty incriminating Manfred interrogating former Astros to verify it is likely where the investigation goes at this point
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 22, 2019 16:24:14 GMT -6
batman007 posted a summary of the video evidence on the "Thoughts on Spygate" thread and it looks pretty incriminating Manfred interrogating former Astros to verify it is likely where the investigation goes at this point If those "former Astros" are like Fires and got dumped, i would not believe a damn thing that comes out of their mouths.
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Post by Saint on Nov 22, 2019 16:40:34 GMT -6
White Sox extended Jose Abreu, 3y/$50m Wow, that's a hefty sum for him. I was thinking $42 at best on a 3-year deal. Do they really think he's still worth $17 million a year? (Obviously they do...)
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 22, 2019 16:42:02 GMT -6
White Sox extended Jose Abreu, 3y/$50m Wow, that's a hefty sum for him. I was thinking $42 at best on a 3-year deal. Do they really think he's still worth $17 million a year? (Obviously they do...) He’s got some real loyalty for the White Sox.
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Post by Saint on Nov 22, 2019 16:42:46 GMT -6
The Astros motto next season should be #Redemption.
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Post by Saint on Nov 22, 2019 16:43:14 GMT -6
Wow, that's a hefty sum for him. I was thinking $42 at best on a 3-year deal. Do they really think he's still worth $17 million a year? (Obviously they do...) Hes got some real loyalty for the White Sox. Yeah. I like the guy, but that's overspending big time.
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 22, 2019 16:45:38 GMT -6
Wow, that's a hefty sum for him. I was thinking $42 at best on a 3-year deal. Do they really think he's still worth $17 million a year? (Obviously they do...) Hes got some real loyalty for the White Sox. Glad to see loyalty still exists!!!
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 22, 2019 16:46:45 GMT -6
White Sox extended Jose Abreu, 3y/$50m Wow, that's a hefty sum for him. I was thinking $42 at best on a 3-year deal. Do they really think he's still worth $17 million a year? (Obviously they do...) I wouldn't give it to him. Your numbers look about right.
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Post by sempersmom on Nov 22, 2019 16:47:53 GMT -6
The Astros motto next season should be #Redemption. I agree.
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 22, 2019 16:47:54 GMT -6
Hes got some real loyalty for the White Sox. Glad to see loyalty still exists!!! It is a rarity these days. We got it from Bagwell and Biggio.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 22, 2019 16:54:44 GMT -6
Hes got some real loyalty for the White Sox. Yeah. I like the guy, but that's overspending big time. I like how the players like him and Gurriel emphasize beating the hell out of the pitch and not necessarily going for distance. We need line drive hitting on this team. Lazy fly balls to center field killed us like in the World Series.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2019 16:55:18 GMT -6
batman007 posted a summary of the video evidence on the "Thoughts on Spygate" thread and it looks pretty incriminating Manfred interrogating former Astros to verify it is likely where the investigation goes at this point Are you referencing the banging noise video? Otherwise, I couldn't find any comprehensive summaries on this thing.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 22, 2019 17:17:49 GMT -6
batman007 posted a summary of the video evidence on the "Thoughts on Spygate" thread and it looks pretty incriminating Manfred interrogating former Astros to verify it is likely where the investigation goes at this point Its like no one looks at evidence. Its all out there. There is alot. I mean like I said Before I belive there will be three years of picks taken
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 22, 2019 17:17:59 GMT -6
batman007 posted a summary of the video evidence on the "Thoughts on Spygate" thread and it looks pretty incriminating Manfred interrogating former Astros to verify it is likely where the investigation goes at this point If those "former Astros" are like Fires and got dumped, i would not believe a damn thing that comes out of their mouths. I don't know if I'd go that far, but I definitely won't be lighting my hair on fire before the verdict arrives
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 22, 2019 18:30:54 GMT -6
batman007 posted a summary of the video evidence on the "Thoughts on Spygate" thread and it looks pretty incriminating Manfred interrogating former Astros to verify it is likely where the investigation goes at this point If those "former Astros" are like Fires and got dumped, i would not believe a damn thing that comes out of their mouths. I can understand not wanting to admit your sports heroes are cheaters, but god damn. "AH DUN KERE IF GAWD HISSELF BONGED THE BASURA, I SHANT BELIVE IT!!!!" - Corch and Catfish.
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 22, 2019 20:57:36 GMT -6
If those "former Astros" are like Fires and got dumped, i would not believe a damn thing that comes out of their mouths. I can understand not wanting to admit your sports heroes are cheaters, but god damn. "AH DUN KERE IF GAWD HISSELF BONGED THE BASURA, I SHANT BELIVE IT!!!!" - Corch and Catfish. Better than "OFF WITH THEIR HEADS" - Nathangarza.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 22, 2019 21:37:44 GMT -6
I can understand not wanting to admit your sports heroes are cheaters, but god damn. "AH DUN KERE IF GAWD HISSELF BONGED THE BASURA, I SHANT BELIVE IT!!!!" - Corch and Catfish. Better than "OFF WITH THEIR HEADS" - Nathangarza. No, it’s not any better. Both are asinine.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 22, 2019 21:45:53 GMT -6
Parents: Santa Claus is not real. Astros Fans: Let’s wait until all the facts come out before saying that.
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 22, 2019 21:47:17 GMT -6
Better than "OFF WITH THEIR HEADS" - Nathangarza. No, it’s not any better. Both are asinine. If you dig enough, I am sure Mlb can link every team, in every World Series to something. I agree, we screwed up. But I do not think we should be raped.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 22, 2019 21:54:55 GMT -6
No, it’s not any better. Both are asinine. If you dig enough, I am sure Mlb can link every team, in every World Series to something. I agree, we screwed up. But I do not think we should be raped. U r correct we shouldnt. But we will be. He has to do something that stings. I never said off with there heads im saying we arent or was not ever liked by the nstional media or just about every sports channel. They tend to love the big guys boston new york etc. But if they proved we only beat them cuz we cheated they will push and push and push till something big happens regardless. Its not there call duh. But you dont think they talk to manfred telling him how they had to cheat us to beat us. The Astros dont get media hype like other teams. We are hated and this just puts us even higher in the pole of hate We will get the harshest penalties Im willing to bet on it. Its gonna be wsy higher then anything else
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