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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 8:42:00 GMT -6
True, it’s like those ingrates who automatically disliked Cole when he left. There’s no way they’d have gotten to the World Series without his help. Only idiots would hold anything against Cole leaving. And, looking back, most of us were idiots for being mad at Beltran leaving. He didn't owe us anything. He played his ass off for us while we had him. Boooooooooo !!!!!!! (I couldn't resist)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 9:38:19 GMT -6
Diamondbacks and Bumgarner finalizing a five-year deal. Sorry, abregmanfan. For $85M. Not a bad price considering the other madness we have been witnessing.
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Post by Saint on Dec 16, 2019 10:16:49 GMT -6
It's a reasonable contract on the surface. If he continues to steadily decline it might become a problem.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 16, 2019 10:46:23 GMT -6
I think Bumgarner was too scared to leave the NL West and the comfort of some of those pitcher-friendly parks. He settled. Here he would have the Crawford Nightmare. Bumgarner is also a good hitter, especially for a pitcher and he likes to hit. Staying in the NL lets him do it.
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Post by m240 on Dec 16, 2019 11:32:20 GMT -6
With Toro and Tanielu ready to go I see no reason at all for keeping Correa on this team. He needs to be dealt for either pitching or a starting catcher. Time to pull the trigger there Luhnow before the end of the year so that you can get it done before whatever suspension MLB gives you.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 16, 2019 12:06:36 GMT -6
With Toro and Tanielu ready to go I see no reason at all for keeping Correa on this team. He needs to be dealt for either pitching or a starting catcher. Time to pull the trigger there Luhnow before the end of the year so that you can get it done before whatever suspension MLB gives you. They have to do something about the catching......Chirinos and Maldonado are both FA's and Stubbs is what we have left. Best thing is sign Chirinos and do with Stubbs to back him up. Trade Correa for pitching, The Dbacks are talking about moivng Robbie Ray who is in the walk year of his contract and due $10-11 million in arbitration. He would be a good addition but I don't deal Correa for anyoe in the walk year of a contract.
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Post by m240 on Dec 16, 2019 12:10:25 GMT -6
With Toro and Tanielu ready to go I see no reason at all for keeping Correa on this team. He needs to be dealt for either pitching or a starting catcher. Time to pull the trigger there Luhnow before the end of the year so that you can get it done before whatever suspension MLB gives you. They have to do something about the catching......Chirinos and Maldonado are both FA's and Stubbs is what we have left. Best thing is sign Chirinos and do with Stubbs to back him up. Trade Correa for pitching, The Dbacks are talking about moivng Robbie Ray who is in the walk year of his contract and due $10-11 million in arbitration. He would be a good addition but I don't deal Correa for anyoe in the walk year of a contract. The Dodgers are a perfect match for us in that they have a couple of mlb ready starters that they are willing to trade. They also want to trade Seager for some reason. This just needs to get done.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 16, 2019 13:00:35 GMT -6
They have to do something about the catching......Chirinos and Maldonado are both FA's and Stubbs is what we have left. Best thing is sign Chirinos and do with Stubbs to back him up. Trade Correa for pitching, The Dbacks are talking about moivng Robbie Ray who is in the walk year of his contract and due $10-11 million in arbitration. He would be a good addition but I don't deal Correa for anyoe in the walk year of a contract. The Dodgers are a perfect match for us in that they have a couple of mlb ready starters that they are willing to trade. They also want to trade Seager for some reason. This just needs to get done. Dustin May!
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Dec 16, 2019 13:12:55 GMT -6
They have to do something about the catching......Chirinos and Maldonado are both FA's and Stubbs is what we have left. Best thing is sign Chirinos and do with Stubbs to back him up. Luhnow already did something about the catching, although he may do more. Dustin Garneau was signed from the FA market three weeks ago. He's out of options so if another ML catcher is added, either Garneau is the backup or he'd have to be DFA.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 16, 2019 13:30:36 GMT -6
They have to do something about the catching......Chirinos and Maldonado are both FA's and Stubbs is what we have left. Best thing is sign Chirinos and do with Stubbs to back him up. Luhnow already did something about the catching, although he may do more. Dustin Garneau was signed from the FA market three weeks ago. He's out of options so if another ML catcher is added, either Garneau is the backup or he'd have to be DFA. Was his contract guaranteed
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Dec 16, 2019 13:33:55 GMT -6
True, it’s like those ingrates who automatically disliked Cole when he left. There’s no way they’d have gotten to the World Series without his help. Only idiots would hold anything against Cole leaving. And, looking back, most of us were idiots for being mad at Beltran leaving. He didn't owe us anything. He played his ass off for us while we had him. Cole was an ace and the Astros only had to pay him peanuts because he was still in arb. Last winter, talk on this board was ... offer him 5 years/$125M and he should take it. lol
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Dec 16, 2019 13:38:44 GMT -6
Luhnow already did something about the catching, although he may do more. Dustin Garneau was signed from the FA market three weeks ago. He's out of options so if another ML catcher is added, either Garneau is the backup or he'd have to be DFA. Was his contract guaranteed Only $650k, but it's a contract. He's in his arb years so maybe they can cut him during ST and pay him a portion of that as severance pay, idk. EDIT: I just looked at his page. He isn't even arb eligible. He's pre-arb.
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Post by Saint on Dec 16, 2019 14:49:14 GMT -6
Only idiots would hold anything against Cole leaving. And, looking back, most of us were idiots for being mad at Beltran leaving. He didn't owe us anything. He played his ass off for us while we had him. Cole was an ace and the Astros only had to pay him peanuts because he was still in arb. Last winter, talk on this board was ... offer him 5 years/$125M and he should take it. lol Yeah, I remember that. Yikes.
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Post by Saint on Dec 16, 2019 14:49:53 GMT -6
At this point, Correa's stock may be down. It might be better to wait until the season to see if he has a hot start and then has more value to another team.
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Post by Saint on Dec 16, 2019 15:41:54 GMT -6
Avisail Garcia to the Brewers for 2-years $20 million.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 16, 2019 15:49:45 GMT -6
Dec. 12: The Mets have struck a deal with free agent righty Rick Porcello, according to Ken Rosenthal and Eno Sarris of The Athletic (via Twitter). It’s a one-year, $10MM deal, per Jon Heyman of MLB Network (Twitter link).
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 16, 2019 15:53:28 GMT -6
Avisail Garcia to the Brewers for 2-years $20 million. I wanted Garcia, but I would think for 20M, it would be a 3 year contract...It seems like teams are spending more this year.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 16, 2019 15:54:02 GMT -6
Dec. 12: The Mets have struck a deal with free agent righty Rick Porcello, according to Ken Rosenthal and Eno Sarris of The Athletic (via Twitter). It’s a one-year, $10MM deal, per Jon Heyman of MLB Network (Twitter link). Like I said a couple days ago, Dang!
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 16, 2019 15:57:53 GMT -6
They have to do something about the catching......Chirinos and Maldonado are both FA's and Stubbs is what we have left. Best thing is sign Chirinos and do with Stubbs to back him up. Luhnow already did something about the catching, although he may do more. Dustin Garneau was signed from the FA market three weeks ago. He's out of options so if another ML catcher is added, either Garneau is the backup or he'd have to be DFA. From what I saw when I checked his numbers, Luhnow still needs to do something about the catching.......Both Chirinos and Maldonado appear to be better than this guy,
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 16, 2019 15:59:43 GMT -6
Luhnow already did something about the catching, although he may do more. Dustin Garneau was signed from the FA market three weeks ago. He's out of options so if another ML catcher is added, either Garneau is the backup or he'd have to be DFA. Was his contract guaranteed $650,000 guaranteed for one year
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 16, 2019 16:00:47 GMT -6
Was his contract guaranteed Only $650k, but it's a contract. He's in his arb years so maybe they can cut him during ST and pay him a portion of that as severance pay, idk. EDIT: I just looked at his page. He isn't even arb eligible. He's pre-arb. He has not been very good with the bat. He is a step down from Chirinos.
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Post by Saint on Dec 16, 2019 16:01:21 GMT -6
Avisail Garcia to the Brewers for 2-years $20 million. I wanted Garcia, but I would think for 20M, it would be a 3 year contract...It seems like teams are spending more this year. Yeah it's definitely been a better offseason for the league this year.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 16, 2019 16:04:07 GMT -6
We are not going to do a damn thing until this so-called investigation is finished and we know what we are dealing with. Manfred knows this and he is dragging it out and more or less puts our front office on hold by doing so.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 16, 2019 16:05:00 GMT -6
I wanted Garcia, but I would think for 20M, it would be a 3 year contract...It seems like teams are spending more this year. Yeah it's definitely been a better offseason for the league this year. Well since the Astros are in standby mode right now, if signings are going on, I hope the other teams are overspending.
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Post by Saint on Dec 16, 2019 16:13:53 GMT -6
Yeah it's definitely been a better offseason for the league this year. Well since the Astros are in standby mode right now, if signings are going on, I hope the other teams are overspending. All of the major deals this offseason have been drastic overspendings, imo. They may or may not be worth that money for the next couple seasons, but Cole will not be worth that money when he gets to JV's age. Strasburg and Wheeler as well. I bet those two don't even average 20-25 starts a season for their contracts. Rendon has the best chance if only because he'll be able to DH when his defense starts to decline. That being said, those teams are not building for the next half a decade, really. They're building for now and worrying about those latter years when the times come.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 16, 2019 16:45:03 GMT -6
The #Astros have agreed to terms on a two-year contract with Joe Smith.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 16, 2019 16:47:15 GMT -6
The #Astros have agreed to terms on a two-year contract with Joe Smith. Now we need some power arms in the pen
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Post by olpapa on Dec 16, 2019 16:57:18 GMT -6
I wanted Garcia, but I would think for 20M, it would be a 3 year contract...It seems like teams are spending more this year. Yeah it's definitely been a better offseason for the league this year. I wonder how much this overspending is motivated by the fact that the parties will be negotiating a new CBA shortly. Last offseason there were accusations that the owners were colluding in order to reduce players’ pay. Players were indicating that there may be a strike. The owners may be tossing out more money this offseason in order to soften the players’ stance before entering negotiations on the new CBA.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 16, 2019 17:04:36 GMT -6
The #Astros have agreed to terms on a two-year contract with Joe Smith. That is OK depending on how much we pay him.....I am not sure I would not prefer Harris to Smith. Harris would be more expensive. We still need to sign Chirinos.......if Luhnow thinks we need to rely on Garneau as the starter, he's lost his mind.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 16, 2019 17:08:12 GMT -6
The #Astros have agreed to terms on a two-year contract with Joe Smith. Now we need some power arms in the pen I am sure they plan on putting McCullers in the rotation, and, I wish they would try to put James in it, too. If Betances is healthy and can be signed for a reasonable amount, he is worth a look. I don't think Rondon is in demand since i have not noticed anyone signing him. They still need to dump Devenski.
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