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Post by olpapa on Jan 2, 2020 22:00:11 GMT -6
That’s a good contract for Harris. I wish him well.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 2, 2020 22:10:51 GMT -6
That’s a good contract for Harris. I wish him well. The more pieces that come off the table, the harder it is to trade Correa and address other needs. The way I see it, if Springer is destined to leave, they might as well trade one or both and do a mini-rebuild.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 3, 2020 2:45:37 GMT -6
That would be promising if the COB didn’t say they weren’t going to focus on other teams. However, I’m more focused on the team’s lack of moves. Has it just been giving Yuli a raise, McCullers the same pay, and reupping with Smith? I’m surprised they haven’t been ultra-aggressive in case MLB comes down on them hard. And they traded Joke for prospects (including a potential reliever for us this year) and signed two catchers. I'd nearly forgotten that. Thanks again, little baby Jesus (and Luhnow).
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Post by m240 on Jan 3, 2020 7:54:05 GMT -6
I read an interesting piece in the Athletic the other day About James. The article broke down his year last year with advance stats and it showed that the year really wasn’t as bad as what it looked with the old fashion stats. The author speculated that they are going to use James this year or at least try to as a starter. They talked about his advanced spin rate last year his fip and truthfully that didn’t look too bad.
I remember this time last year when I thought that James was going to be a sure fire starter. This year it looks like Urquidy is going to be a sure fire starter. So is James comes back and can be a number for type starter and Urquidy can replicate what he did last year then we’re really not going to drop too far statistically having lost Cole. That is of course so long as McCullers comes back to his pre-injury self.
That’s a lot of if‘s and butts but in the end we should go into spring training at a similar place to where we went into spring training last year. From where were at now it seems that the only thing that would make sense for us to do is to play out the year and do our mini rebuild next winter.
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Post by Saint on Jan 3, 2020 8:30:54 GMT -6
So apparently the Astros FO told Harris they wanted to offer more, but couldn't do it. Sounds like they've reached their current max on payroll.
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Post by m240 on Jan 3, 2020 8:45:26 GMT -6
Sure does. It would of been nice to dump Reddick and keep Harris but it was not in the cards
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Post by Saint on Jan 3, 2020 8:49:27 GMT -6
I really thought Reddick was going to bounce back last year. Not as good as 2017 but better than 2018.
He's actually projected for fairly solid numbers next year:
16 HR 60 RBI 64 Runs 6 SB .269/.326/.429 (.754 OPS)
Hopefully Tucker will show up strong and take the position from him, but, if not, that would be decent production from Reddick if he maintains his solid defense.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 3, 2020 9:09:02 GMT -6
So apparently the Astros FO told Harris they wanted to offer more, but couldn't do it. Sounds like they've reached their current max on payroll. Well, there goes your “it’s still early” theory.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 9:09:38 GMT -6
I really thought Reddick was going to bounce back last year. Not as good as 2017 but better than 2018. He's actually projected for fairly solid numbers next year: 16 HR 60 RBI 64 Runs 6 SB .269/.326/.429 (.754 OPS) Hopefully Tucker will show up strong and take the position from him, but, if not, that would be decent production from Reddick if he maintains his solid defense. Look at Harris. He's had dang solid numbers for years now. Never understood the hate here.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 3, 2020 9:11:52 GMT -6
I honestly don’t know what the plan is this offseason. You’d figure that with the heat on them, they’d fire up the trades or FA acquisitions before the hammer falls. Instead, they’re doing relatively nothing. They offered 7 years and $250 million to Cole, yet they couldn’t afford Harris? I don’t follow.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 3, 2020 9:13:32 GMT -6
Sure does. It would of been nice to dump Reddick and keep Harris but it was not in the cards I would’ve partially paid part of Reddick’s remaining contract to get rid of him in a package deal if I were Luhnow.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 3, 2020 9:15:33 GMT -6
I really thought Reddick was going to bounce back last year. Not as good as 2017 but better than 2018. He's actually projected for fairly solid numbers next year: 16 HR 60 RBI 64 Runs 6 SB .269/.326/.429 (.754 OPS) Hopefully Tucker will show up strong and take the position from him, but, if not, that would be decent production from Reddick if he maintains his solid defense. Look at Harris. He's had dang solid numbers for years now. Never understood the hate here. He is one of those guys with great numbers but gives you an uneasy feeling at times. Still, his performance in ‘19 was dominant enough to warrant a new contract. The Astros really missed the ball there. He was one of the key players they needed to get back. I know for sure Hinch will miss him.
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Post by Saint on Jan 3, 2020 9:19:47 GMT -6
So apparently the Astros FO told Harris they wanted to offer more, but couldn't do it. Sounds like they've reached their current max on payroll. Well, there goes your “it’s still early” theory. Doesn't mean trades won't be made.
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Post by Saint on Jan 3, 2020 9:20:13 GMT -6
I really thought Reddick was going to bounce back last year. Not as good as 2017 but better than 2018. He's actually projected for fairly solid numbers next year: 16 HR 60 RBI 64 Runs 6 SB .269/.326/.429 (.754 OPS) Hopefully Tucker will show up strong and take the position from him, but, if not, that would be decent production from Reddick if he maintains his solid defense. Look at Harris. He's had dang solid numbers for years now. Never understood the hate here. Me either. He was fantastic for Houston overall.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 3, 2020 9:20:46 GMT -6
Look at Harris. He's had dang solid numbers for years now. Never understood the hate here. Me either. He was fantastic for Houston overall. Until the end....
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Post by Saint on Jan 3, 2020 9:21:00 GMT -6
I honestly don’t know what the plan is this offseason. You’d figure that with the heat on them, they’d fire up the trades or FA acquisitions before the hammer falls. Instead, they’re doing relatively nothing. They offered 7 years and $250 million to Cole, yet they couldn’t afford Harris? I don’t follow. Some players are worth the luxury tax. Some are not.
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Post by Saint on Jan 3, 2020 9:21:35 GMT -6
Me either. He was fantastic for Houston overall. Until the end.... That HR to Kendrick was still a good pitch. I don't blame Harris for that WS. The offense dropped the ball in the WS.
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Post by m240 on Jan 3, 2020 10:23:08 GMT -6
The offense was most definitely the issue in the World Series
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 3, 2020 11:32:47 GMT -6
Harris at this point of his career got a great contract. But the drill with Harris was he could dominate for most of the year, then flame out at season's end. You could blame it on the workload. This past season with the help of Pressly and Osuna it proved with Harris in the right spots was dominating. But the old bug came back to bite when he was overused in the playoffs. I hope he has better success in the Capitol than Sipp did.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 3, 2020 11:33:00 GMT -6
Well, there goes your “it’s still early” theory. Doesn't mean trades won't be made. Correa and Springer are the biggest trade chips. Either of them being dealt hurts them for this season at the least, and Luhnow already told one of them he’s safe. They’ll be hard pressed to acquire an impact player at this rate.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 3, 2020 11:35:26 GMT -6
The offense was most definitely the issue in the World Series Yes. The pitchers did their jobs, especially Cole. That’s why I can’t stand the “Cole should of stayed errmahgerd he a trader” talk. He did his job and then some. Altuve disappeared the last couple of games, Springer and Correa were off and on, and Bregman was largely a disappointment along with Álvarez (he gets a pass for being a rookie).
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Post by Saint on Jan 3, 2020 11:44:13 GMT -6
Harris at this point of his career got a great contract. But the drill with Harris was he could dominate for most of the year, then flame out at season's end. You could blame it on the workload. This past season with the help of Pressly and Osuna it proved with Harris in the right spots was dominating. But the old bug came back to bite when he was overused in the playoffs. I hope he has better success in the Capitol than Sipp did. Eh, he had an excellent overall postseason this last year. One good pitch that barely stayed fair makes it look worse than it was. Even with that he had a great postseason. He came up huge in pressure situations multiple times leading up to Game 7. Outside of a horrible 2015 postseason (his first), he was a very good pitcher in the postseason.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 3, 2020 11:44:25 GMT -6
That HR to Kendrick was still a good pitch. I don't blame Harris for that WS. The offense dropped the ball in the WS. Did he also give up a HR in game 6?
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Post by Saint on Jan 3, 2020 11:46:20 GMT -6
Doesn't mean trades won't be made. Correa and Springer are the biggest trade chips. Either of them being dealt hurts them for this season at the least, and Luhnow already told one of them he’s safe. They’ll be hard pressed to acquire an impact player at this rate. As much as I'd hate to lose Springer, if it doesn't look like we're going to be able to extend him, you could probably get a really deal for him if Boston is too high on Betts. That being said, I'd rather keep Springer and see if we can make one more WS run with him...but future-wise, it doesn't NOT make sense to see what kind of return we could get for him. Especially if it involved some good pitching potential.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 3, 2020 11:46:26 GMT -6
Harris at this point of his career got a great contract. But the drill with Harris was he could dominate for most of the year, then flame out at season's end. You could blame it on the workload. This past season with the help of Pressly and Osuna it proved with Harris in the right spots was dominating. But the old bug came back to bite when he was overused in the playoffs. I hope he has better success in the Capitol than Sipp did. Eh, he had an excellent overall postseason this last year. One good pitch that barely stayed fair makes it look worse than it was. Even with that he had a great postseason. He came up huge in pressure situations multiple times leading up to Game 7. Outside of a horrible 2015 postseason (his first), he was a very good pitcher in the postseason. Rendon was his daddy in Game 6 too. Statistics never told the whole story with Harris.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 3, 2020 11:49:25 GMT -6
Correa and Springer are the biggest trade chips. Either of them being dealt hurts them for this season at the least, and Luhnow already told one of them he’s safe. They’ll be hard pressed to acquire an impact player at this rate. As much as I'd hate to lose Springer, if it doesn't look like we're going to be able to extend him, you could probably get a really deal for him if Boston is too high on Betts. That being said, I'd rather keep Springer and see if we can make one more WS run with him...but future-wise, it doesn't NOT make sense to see what kind of return we could get for him. Especially if it involved some good pitching potential. If they let Springer go, it’s a bad look for the organization. Verlander is great and all, but you can’t say he’s more worth the money than a star like Springer who’s been raking for the team for six seasons.
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Post by Saint on Jan 3, 2020 11:50:00 GMT -6
That HR to Kendrick was still a good pitch. I don't blame Harris for that WS. The offense dropped the ball in the WS. Did he also give up a HR in game 6? Yeah, but we were already losing with zero offense. Everybody is going to give up a run at some point.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 3, 2020 11:51:14 GMT -6
Doesn't mean trades won't be made. Correa and Springer are the biggest trade chips. Either of them being dealt hurts them for this season at the least, and Luhnow already told one of them he’s safe. They’ll be hard pressed to acquire an impact player at this rate. Tucker. Whitley. Both still exist.
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Post by Saint on Jan 3, 2020 11:51:59 GMT -6
Eh, he had an excellent overall postseason this last year. One good pitch that barely stayed fair makes it look worse than it was. Even with that he had a great postseason. He came up huge in pressure situations multiple times leading up to Game 7. Outside of a horrible 2015 postseason (his first), he was a very good pitcher in the postseason. Rendon was his daddy in Game 6 too. Statistics never told the whole story with Harris. He stranded 12 of 14 inherited runners in the postseason last year. I'll take that percentage any day.
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Post by Saint on Jan 3, 2020 11:58:28 GMT -6
As much as I'd hate to lose Springer, if it doesn't look like we're going to be able to extend him, you could probably get a really deal for him if Boston is too high on Betts. That being said, I'd rather keep Springer and see if we can make one more WS run with him...but future-wise, it doesn't NOT make sense to see what kind of return we could get for him. Especially if it involved some good pitching potential. If they let Springer go, it’s a bad look for the organization. Verlander is great and all, but you can’t say he’s more worth the money than a star like Springer who’s been raking for the team for six seasons. If we're going to face some hard truths with Springer, the guy has only stayed healthy for a full season once (and missed 40 games last year), and he'll be on the wrong side of 30 as a free agent. He's only averaged 15 more games a season than Correa and we blast Correa constantly. So a 31 year old with a somewhat shaky health history isn't exactly somebody we need to throw $200 million at this offseason, imo. (Unless the team magically doesn't care about luxuray tax penalties.) As a fan, I want him. But from a business standpoint, we can make other moves with the money he would require that would be more beneficial, I'd expect.
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