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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 24, 2020 18:10:14 GMT -6
What's the breakdown that you've seen? I'd like to see how they compare with that the last several years. He doesn't need objective proof. He has his eyes, you know, you damned whippersnapper. I am sure you can provide us with all the evidence we need.  |
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Post by Saint on Jan 24, 2020 19:18:01 GMT -6
What's the breakdown that you've seen? I'd like to see how they compare with that the last several years. I don't have the numbers at hand. I am going by what I saw while watching the games. I don't think I missed any and I remember us doing better offensively with Altuve out than when George was injured. Bregman's numbers suffered the most because pitchers worked around him and he normally saw nothing to hit. Pitchers were not going to let him beat them. If Alvarez had not come up and produced as he did, we would have been in trouble. Oh. I thought you actually saw something that showed that. Nevermind. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 24, 2020 20:34:49 GMT -6
I don't have the numbers at hand. I am going by what I saw while watching the games. I don't think I missed any and I remember us doing better offensively with Altuve out than when George was injured. Bregman's numbers suffered the most because pitchers worked around him and he normally saw nothing to hit. Pitchers were not going to let him beat them. If Alvarez had not come up and produced as he did, we would have been in trouble. Oh. I thought you actually saw something that showed that. Nevermind. As you know, I don't need a bunch of numbers to help me evaluate a player. Numbers are useful but seldom tell the whole story. i realize you are lost without them but some of us are not. You can draw your own conclusions using anything you choose just as anyone else can. You have your way and your opinion and I have mine. I respect your right to yours even though I may not agree with you. But, since I am an idiot, what I think isn't important. LOL LOL |
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Post by talshill on Jan 25, 2020 8:57:11 GMT -6
Oh. I thought you actually saw something that showed that. Nevermind. As you know, I don't need a bunch of numbers to help me evaluate a player. Numbers are useful but seldom tell the whole story. i realize you are lost without them but some of us are not. You can draw your own conclusions using anything you choose just as anyone else can. You have your way and your opinion and I have mine. I respect your right to yours even though I may not agree with you. But, since I am an idiot, what I think isn't important. LOL LOL Numbers never lie, but they can definitely mislead (see Colorado ballpark inflated numbers). IMO you can't completely trust your eyes or memory when evaluating a ballplayer. So many biases come into play. A statement without quantifiable, objective evidence is an opinion. Too much money is at stake in big business like MLB to rely on opinion. Luhnow understood this, made his decisions based on numbers (not sentiment or "eye tests") and created the best team in baseball. Numbers, flawed as they can sometimes be, are far more reliable in getting to the truth than the "eye test". I've made money in the commodities market and it has to be based on evidence and numbers. Relying on the eye test there will ensure that you will get your ass handed to you. Same as in MLB. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 25, 2020 10:53:11 GMT -6
As you know, I don't need a bunch of numbers to help me evaluate a player. Numbers are useful but seldom tell the whole story. i realize you are lost without them but some of us are not. You can draw your own conclusions using anything you choose just as anyone else can. You have your way and your opinion and I have mine. I respect your right to yours even though I may not agree with you. But, since I am an idiot, what I think isn't important. LOL LOL Numbers never lie, but they can definitely mislead (see Colorado ballpark inflated numbers). IMO you can't completely trust your eyes or memory when evaluating a ballplayer. So many biases come into play. A statement without quantifiable, objective evidence is an opinion. Too much money is at stake in big business like MLB to rely on opinion. Luhnow understood this, made his decisions based on numbers (not sentiment or "eye tests") and created the best team in baseball. Numbers, flawed as they can sometimes be, are far more reliable in getting to the truth than the "eye test". I've made money in the commodities market and it has to be based on evidence and numbers. Relying on the eye test there will ensure that you will get your ass handed to you. Same as in MLB. I realize that numbers are important, but, I have never thought they painted the complete picture. I guess I am too lazy to dig in and research OPS, OBP, WAR, etc. Some of my arguing with Saint about his use of stats is just to try to push his buttons. I like the enthusiasm and fire that Springer brings to the team and it is something we need. I have never ;meant to belittle Altuve. He and George bring different aspects that we need. Both bust their ass on every play........something Correa lacks and needs to learn. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 25, 2020 12:11:21 GMT -6
Numbers never lie, but they can definitely mislead (see Colorado ballpark inflated numbers). IMO you can't completely trust your eyes or memory when evaluating a ballplayer. So many biases come into play. A statement without quantifiable, objective evidence is an opinion. Too much money is at stake in big business like MLB to rely on opinion. Luhnow understood this, made his decisions based on numbers (not sentiment or "eye tests") and created the best team in baseball. Numbers, flawed as they can sometimes be, are far more reliable in getting to the truth than the "eye test". I've made money in the commodities market and it has to be based on evidence and numbers. Relying on the eye test there will ensure that you will get your ass handed to you. Same as in MLB. I realize that numbers are important, but, I have never thought they painted the complete picture. I guess I am too lazy to dig in and research OPS, OBP, WAR, etc. Some of my arguing with Saint about his use of stats is just to try to push his buttons. I like the enthusiasm and fire that Springer brings to the team and it is something we need. I have never ;meant to belittle Altuve. He and George bring different aspects that we need. Both bust their ass on every play........something Correa lacks and needs to learn. Coach, the button pusher. Lol. Give em hell, coach! |
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Post by talshill on Jan 25, 2020 13:01:45 GMT -6
Numbers never lie, but they can definitely mislead (see Colorado ballpark inflated numbers). IMO you can't completely trust your eyes or memory when evaluating a ballplayer. So many biases come into play. A statement without quantifiable, objective evidence is an opinion. Too much money is at stake in big business like MLB to rely on opinion. Luhnow understood this, made his decisions based on numbers (not sentiment or "eye tests") and created the best team in baseball. Numbers, flawed as they can sometimes be, are far more reliable in getting to the truth than the "eye test". I've made money in the commodities market and it has to be based on evidence and numbers. Relying on the eye test there will ensure that you will get your ass handed to you. Same as in MLB. I realize that numbers are important, but, I have never thought they painted the complete picture. I guess I am too lazy to dig in and research OPS, OBP, WAR, etc. Some of my arguing with Saint about his use of stats is just to try to push his buttons. I like the enthusiasm and fire that Springer brings to the team and it is something we need. I have never ;meant to belittle Altuve. He and George bring different aspects that we need. Both bust their ass on every play........something Correa lacks and needs to learn. Gotcha. It can be entertaining to watch you stir the pot. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 25, 2020 13:34:45 GMT -6
I realize that numbers are important, but, I have never thought they painted the complete picture. I guess I am too lazy to dig in and research OPS, OBP, WAR, etc. Some of my arguing with Saint about his use of stats is just to try to push his buttons. I like the enthusiasm and fire that Springer brings to the team and it is something we need. I have never ;meant to belittle Altuve. He and George bring different aspects that we need. Both bust their ass on every play........something Correa lacks and needs to learn. Gotcha. It can be entertaining to watch you stir the pot. i love it when the intended target calls me an idiot for saying I don't agree. I know that numbers are useful,but, they don't measure a player's value when it comes to leadership, setting an example for younger players, etc. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 25, 2020 15:02:10 GMT -6
Setting an example for the younger players in, say...cheating, for instance? Violating the rules of the game and the trust of the fans? Is that the example you mean?
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 25, 2020 15:19:33 GMT -6
Setting an example for the younger players in, say...cheating, for instance? Violating the rules of the game and the trust of the fans? Is that the example you mean? Not what I had in mind. In this sign-stealing ordeal I am sure there was not ONE totally innocent member of the team. But, I don't think we should hang all of them for using information the cheating bench coach set up for them. This whole mess could have been avoided if Hinch had a pair of balls and ordered Cora to shut that shit down......He didn't and we are where we are because of it. I also think tbat many fans won't worry too much about it if they come out and win in 2020. Fans have short memories once winning takes place. The key is for Crane not to hire some idiot like Baker or Banister as manager. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 25, 2020 15:23:28 GMT -6
Corch uses numbers fine until it proves him wrong.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 25, 2020 15:40:32 GMT -6
Corch uses numbers fine until it proves him wrong. When has any of your numbers proved anyone wrong? All you do is use them to try and prove your entire point even though they seldom paint the whole picture. I am not sure you could form an opinion relating to baseball without a stat sheet. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 25, 2020 15:44:29 GMT -6
Corch uses numbers fine until it proves him wrong. When has any of your numbers proved anyone wrong? All you do is use them to try and prove your entire point even though they seldom paint the whole picture. I am not sure you could form an opinion relating to baseball without a stat sheet. Yeah you've said that before. Try something new. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 25, 2020 16:55:58 GMT -6
When has any of your numbers proved anyone wrong? All you do is use them to try and prove your entire point even though they seldom paint the whole picture. I am not sure you could form an opinion relating to baseball without a stat sheet. Yeah you've said that before. Try something new. Why try something new when this still precisely describes what you do to form opinions. You are incapable of thinking without a stat sheet. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 25, 2020 17:14:24 GMT -6
Yeah you've said that before. Try something new. Why try something new when this still precisely describes what you do to form opinions. You are incapable of thinking without a stat sheet. Are you saying he is a "stat for brains" |
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Post by sempersmom on Jan 25, 2020 17:25:00 GMT -6
Why try something new when this still precisely describes what you do to form opinions. You are incapable of thinking without a stat sheet. Are you saying he is a "stat for brains" |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 25, 2020 18:22:25 GMT -6
Are you saying he is a "stat for brains" I am saying be doesn't appear to have a brain without stats when it comes to evaluating baseball players. |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 25, 2020 19:11:20 GMT -6
MLBTR is reporting that Crane has interviewed Bobby Evans for the GM position. I would rather Crane continue to do the job himself.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 25, 2020 20:01:03 GMT -6
MLBTR is reporting that Crane has interviewed Bobby Evans for the GM position. I would rather Crane continue to do the job himself. Who is Bobby Evans? I have never heard of him. If Crane was smart, he would try to hire Reid Ryan. |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 25, 2020 21:01:38 GMT -6
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Post by m240 on Jan 25, 2020 21:05:38 GMT -6
Ryan would be a great choice
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 25, 2020 21:24:17 GMT -6
Ryan would be a great choice Yes, but I doubt he would take the job after Crane treated him like shit. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 26, 2020 6:09:14 GMT -6
When I read the article, I thought it was about Ed Wade. |
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Post by marshall on Jan 26, 2020 7:14:26 GMT -6
MLBTR is reporting that Crane has interviewed Bobby Evans for the GM position. I would rather Crane continue to do the job himself. Who is Bobby Evans? I have never heard of him. If Crane was smart, he would try to hire Reid Ryan. I'm sorry. When I heard the name Bob(by) Evans, my mind went immediately to breakfast, both sausage and Restaurant. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 27, 2020 11:16:03 GMT -6
Castellanous to the Reds 4-years $64 million. The Reds could be a pretty good team this year (at least on paper).
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 27, 2020 13:02:13 GMT -6
We need to call the Reds and check on the price of Nick Senzel.
He would be a great peace to add and mostlikly has no spot on the oster to play every day. Has kiznda feel out of favor of playing time
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 27, 2020 16:06:17 GMT -6
Jim Bowden
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A Nolan Arenado trade is inevitable. #Dodgers #Rangers #Cardinals most logical trade fits. However, #Yankees #Astros #Braves #Nationals #Cubs should not be ignored as possible landing spots.https://theathletic.com/1558465/2020/01/27/bowden-the-rockies-trading-nolan-arenado-is-all-but-inevitable-which-teams-are-most-likely-to-make-a-deal/ …
Bowden: A Nolan Arenado trade is all but inevitable. Which...
Let’s take a look at those eight clubs and what it would probably take for them to make a deal happen.
theathletic.com
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 27, 2020 16:11:14 GMT -6
According to the Article.
Nolan Arenando has a very good chance to be traded to any of the teams above.
And its very very possible that the Astros can get him. Just add a contract and acouple prospects.
But there was another article talking about if they where to do this they could easily flip Carlos Correa in any number of deals exspecially to a team like the Reds. EXAMPLE: Nick Senzel and a couple Pitching Prospects.
This would be perfect for the Reds who would then catapolt themselves all the way to the top of the NL.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 27, 2020 16:15:43 GMT -6
The Astros have nothing to trade really besides MLB-level players.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 27, 2020 16:18:26 GMT -6
The most recent traderumor I seen (sorey it wont let me link nor copy it for some reason)
Nolan Arenando and Jon Gray for Josh Reddick, Freudis Nova, Bryan Abreu and Josh James Astros take all of Arenandos Contract no Opt outs on his Contract all Garunteed
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