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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 27, 2020 16:22:35 GMT -6
The most recent traderumor I seen (sorey it wont let me link nor copy it for some reason) Nolan Arenando and Jon Gray for Josh Reddick, Freudis Nova, Bryan Abreu and Josh James Astros take all of Arenandos Contract no Opt outs on his Contract all Garunteed more bullshit, |
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Post by Saint on Jan 27, 2020 16:24:40 GMT -6
While he has hit very well at MMP in a limited amount of ABs, I don't know that I trust his production away from Coors Field for that amount of guaranteed money. You're talking $35 million a year for quite some time IF he doesn't opt out. So you could be taking on $70 million for two years and then he's out.
I think an Arenado-Bregman tandem is certainly more productive than a Bregman-Correa tandem, but that's a ton of money...
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Post by olpapa on Jan 27, 2020 16:28:45 GMT -6
Now is not the time for the Astros to be trading away prospects. The farm system has been weakened considerably over the last few years and now we have no #1 or #2 picks in the next two Rule 4 drafts. If anything, we will need to trade for prospects from other teams, rather than trading away more of ours.
IMO the most likely player to be traded away is Correa. We have Bregman who can slide over to SS and Toro who is ready to step in at 3B. We also have depth at SS in the minors in Freudis Nova and Jeremy Pena.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 27, 2020 17:11:53 GMT -6
Now is not the time for the Astros to be trading away prospects. The farm system has been weakened considerably over the last few years and now we have no #1 or #2 picks in the next two Rule 4 drafts. If anything, we will need to trade for prospects from other teams, rather than trading away more of ours. IMO the most likely player to be traded away is Correa. We have Bregman who can slide over to SS and Toro who is ready to step in at 3B. We also have depth at SS in the minors in Freudis Nova and Jeremy Pena. We can use Correa to help replenish the farm system or get a starting pitcher. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 27, 2020 17:52:31 GMT -6
According to the Article. Nolan Arenando has a very good chance to be traded to any of the teams above. And its very very possible that the Astros can get him. Just add a contract and acouple prospects. But there was another article talking about if they where to do this they could easily flip Carlos Correa in any number of deals exspecially to a team like the Reds. EXAMPLE: Nick Senzel and a couple Pitching Prospects. This would be perfect for the Reds who would then catapolt themselves all the way to the top of the NL. That's awesome.... |
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Post by m240 on Jan 27, 2020 18:14:35 GMT -6
I cannot wait until we get a general manager selected so that we can all see what kind of prospects we will get after we trade Correia and Springer
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 27, 2020 19:03:41 GMT -6
According to the Article. Nolan Arenando has a very good chance to be traded to any of the teams above. And its very very possible that the Astros can get him. Just add a contract and acouple prospects. But there was another article talking about if they where to do this they could easily flip Carlos Correa in any number of deals exspecially to a team like the Reds. EXAMPLE: Nick Senzel and a couple Pitching Prospects. This would be perfect for the Reds who would then catapolt themselves all the way to the top of the NL. That's awesome.... How does he come up with all of this? I'm telling you, he has to work in someone's front office. |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 27, 2020 19:39:57 GMT -6
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 27, 2020 20:03:00 GMT -6
I cannot wait until we get a general manager selected so that we can all see what kind of prospects we will get after we trade Correia and Springer We don't need to trade Springer until we know there is no possibility of extending him. |
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Post by m240 on Jan 27, 2020 20:19:35 GMT -6
I am pretty sure that ship has sailed
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 27, 2020 20:33:58 GMT -6
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 27, 2020 20:34:26 GMT -6
I've tried calling you tonight. Give me a buzz... |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 27, 2020 20:53:47 GMT -6
Js
Its alot of money but two birds with one stone
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 27, 2020 21:03:05 GMT -6
Js Its alot of money but two birds with one stone |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 28, 2020 10:09:10 GMT -6
I cannot wait until we get a general manager selected so that we can all see what kind of prospects we will get after we trade Correia and Springer Both the Reds and Mets have reportedly inquired about Correa this offseason. It looks like the Mets have put themselves a position where they could afford to trade away Lugo. They have a lefty pitcher, David Peterson, in the minors who looks to have the kind of stuff to be successful in Houston. Good control. Excellent groundball out rate. Decent K vs BB rate. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 28, 2020 10:12:22 GMT -6
I cannot wait until we get a general manager selected so that we can all see what kind of prospects we will get after we trade Correia and Springer Both the Reds and Mets have reportedly inquired about Correa this offseason. It looks like the Mets have put themselves a position where they could afford to trade away Lugo. They have a lefty pitcher, David Peterson, in the minors who looks to have the kind of stuff to be successful in Houston. Good control. Excellent groundball out rate. Decent K vs BB rate. Could we get Lugo + a good prospect (s) for Correa? |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 28, 2020 10:14:18 GMT -6
Both the Reds and Mets have reportedly inquired about Correa this offseason. It looks like the Mets have put themselves a position where they could afford to trade away Lugo. They have a lefty pitcher, David Peterson, in the minors who looks to have the kind of stuff to be successful in Houston. Good control. Excellent groundball out rate. Decent K vs BB rate. Could we get Lugo + a good prospect (s) for Correa? Yes. I believe we can. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 28, 2020 10:16:35 GMT -6
I cannot wait until we get a general manager selected so that we can all see what kind of prospects we will get after we trade Correia and Springer Both the Reds and Mets have reportedly inquired about Correa this offseason. It looks like the Mets have put themselves a position where they could afford to trade away Lugo. They have a lefty pitcher, David Peterson, in the minors who looks to have the kind of stuff to be successful in Houston. Good control. Excellent groundball out rate. Decent K vs BB rate. What do you think of Baker being the new coach? I think after the 2022 season, I think the Astros would have a new manager. What I don't understand is why the Aatros haven't hired a GM. You hire the GM then the manager. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 28, 2020 10:16:42 GMT -6
Y'all think the new GM would be interested in this type of deal? We're still looking at spin rate for pitchers, but Luhnow is gone now. I'm not so sure we'd still be into these types of deals.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 28, 2020 10:19:33 GMT -6
Could we get Lugo + a good prospect (s) for Correa? Yes. I believe we can. I would do it...Lugo + a pitching and an OF prospect. At this point, I don't care if the Astros free up money just this season by trading Reddick... |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 28, 2020 10:20:05 GMT -6
Y'all think the new GM would be interested in this type of deal? We're still looking at spin rate for pitchers, but Luhnow is gone now. I'm not so sure we'd still be into these types of deals. We still have Stromfather |
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Post by Saint on Jan 28, 2020 10:20:44 GMT -6
Y'all think the new GM would be interested in this type of deal? We're still looking at spin rate for pitchers, but Luhnow is gone now. I'm not so sure we'd still be into these types of deals. We still have Stromfather He's not the one making the deals. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 28, 2020 10:24:22 GMT -6
Could we get Lugo + a good prospect (s) for Correa? Yes. I believe we can. If we can do that, we need to ship Correa before they back out. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 28, 2020 10:25:20 GMT -6
We still have Stromfather He's not the one making the deals. But he is the one who has proven to be successful with pitchers with high spin rate. Astros need someone that is analytical like Luhnow. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 28, 2020 10:26:02 GMT -6
Y'all think the new GM would be interested in this type of deal? We're still looking at spin rate for pitchers, but Luhnow is gone now. I'm not so sure we'd still be into these types of deals. Thankfully, we still have Strom and he pay a lot of attention to spin rate. It has worked so why change it. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 28, 2020 10:26:19 GMT -6
He's not the one making the deals. But he is the one who has proven to be successful with pitchers with high spin rate. Astros need someone that is analytical like Luhnow. Who knows how much of that is Strom and how much of that is the analytics department. And who knows how strong the analytics department will be now that Luhnow is gone... |
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Post by Saint on Jan 28, 2020 10:27:08 GMT -6
Y'all think the new GM would be interested in this type of deal? We're still looking at spin rate for pitchers, but Luhnow is gone now. I'm not so sure we'd still be into these types of deals. Thankfully, we still have Strom and he pay a lot of attention to spin rate. It has worked so why change it. Y'all give Strom a lot of credit when we don't have any idea how much of is it him, and how much of is the information he is being given. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 28, 2020 10:28:02 GMT -6
We still have Stromfather He's not the one making the deals. He is the one evaluating the pitchers to see what needs to be done with them before we deal for or sign them. He advised them to sign Morton and trade for Cole. |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 28, 2020 10:28:50 GMT -6
But he is the one who has proven to be successful with pitchers with high spin rate. Astros need someone that is analytical like Luhnow. Who knows how much of that is Strom and how much of that is the analytics department. And who knows how strong the analytics department will be now that Luhnow is gone... Who knows? The Shadow do. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 28, 2020 10:30:21 GMT -6
Thankfully, we still have Strom and he pay a lot of attention to spin rate. It has worked so why change it. Y'all give Strom a lot of credit when we don't have any idea how much of is it him, and how much of is the information he is being given. We have evidence that most of the pitchers we sign or trade for make considerable improvement after Strom starts coaching them....Verlander credits him for helping him. What he did with Morton and Cole is there for all to see. I keep hoping we can find another "project" for him. |
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