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Post by batman007 on Nov 19, 2019 18:24:48 GMT -6
One thing we know for sure..........the media doesn't blow things out of proportion or outright lie. You can believe everything the media puts out. I am going to be very honest.........I don't care if they stole signs and I don't care how they did if it happened. There is not ONE team in either league who would not have done the same thing.....Many of them probably did. If the Astros had not started winning, this would have never been mentioned. I don't give a shit if they stole signs, and, I doubt if most Astros fans do, either. We have two AL pennants and a WS title in the last three years......not the damn Yankees. Did it hurt to say that? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 19, 2019 18:39:28 GMT -6
One thing we know for sure..........the media doesn't blow things out of proportion or outright lie. You can believe everything the media puts out. I am going to be very honest.........I don't care if they stole signs and I don't care how they did if it happened. There is not ONE team in either league who would not have done the same thing.....Many of them probably did. If the Astros had not started winning, this would have never been mentioned. I don't give a shit if they stole signs, and, I doubt if most Astros fans do, either. We have two AL pennants and a WS title in the last three years......not the damn Yankees. Did it hurt to say that? It must have, he has been against the Astros signing players that have cheated in the past (PEDs). |
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Post by Saint on Nov 19, 2019 20:00:28 GMT -6
One thing we know for sure..........the media doesn't blow things out of proportion or outright lie. You can believe everything the media puts out. I am going to be very honest.........I don't care if they stole signs and I don't care how they did if it happened. There is not ONE team in either league who would not have done the same thing.....Many of them probably did. If the Astros had not started winning, this would have never been mentioned. I don't give a shit if they stole signs, and, I doubt if most Astros fans do, either. We have two AL pennants and a WS title in the last three years......not the damn Yankees. So what if it came out that the Nats were using corked bats in the WS? Do you still not care? |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 19, 2019 20:02:37 GMT -6
One thing we know for sure..........the media doesn't blow things out of proportion or outright lie. You can believe everything the media puts out. I am going to be very honest.........I don't care if they stole signs and I don't care how they did if it happened. There is not ONE team in either league who would not have done the same thing.....Many of them probably did. If the Astros had not started winning, this would have never been mentioned. I don't give a shit if they stole signs, and, I doubt if most Astros fans do, either. We have two AL pennants and a WS title in the last three years......not the damn Yankees. So what if it came out that the Nats were using corked bats in the WS? Do you still not care? That's different, Saint. Lol. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 19, 2019 20:05:23 GMT -6
So what if it came out that the Nats were using corked bats in the WS? Do you still not care? That's different, Saint. Lol. Cheating is cheating, right? Why is getting a little more pop on contact worse than getting a heads-up on what pitch is coming? Still have to hit the ball, right? |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 19, 2019 20:22:08 GMT -6
That's different, Saint. Lol. Cheating is cheating, right? Why is getting a little more pop on contact worse than getting a heads-up on what pitch is coming? Still have to hit the ball, right? I am agreeing with you. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 19, 2019 20:26:05 GMT -6
It must have, he has been against the Astros signing players that have cheated in the past (PEDs). How do you go from that to being okay with Osuna to not caring about cheating? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 19, 2019 20:26:38 GMT -6
One thing we know for sure..........the media doesn't blow things out of proportion or outright lie. You can believe everything the media puts out. I am going to be very honest.........I don't care if they stole signs and I don't care how they did if it happened. There is not ONE team in either league who would not have done the same thing.....Many of them probably did. If the Astros had not started winning, this would have never been mentioned. I don't give a shit if they stole signs, and, I doubt if most Astros fans do, either. We have two AL pennants and a WS title in the last three years......not the damn Yankees. Did it hurt to say that? No, why should it? I don't give a shit if they stole signs or how they did it.......nobody gives a damn but the media and other teams who did it themselves and hope they aren't investigated. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 19, 2019 20:27:47 GMT -6
It must have, he has been against the Astros signing players that have cheated in the past (PEDs). I am still against signing players who have used PED's. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 19, 2019 20:28:57 GMT -6
#astrosfanslivesmatter.
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 19, 2019 20:29:51 GMT -6
One thing we know for sure..........the media doesn't blow things out of proportion or outright lie. You can believe everything the media puts out. I am going to be very honest.........I don't care if they stole signs and I don't care how they did if it happened. There is not ONE team in either league who would not have done the same thing.....Many of them probably did. If the Astros had not started winning, this would have never been mentioned. I don't give a shit if they stole signs, and, I doubt if most Astros fans do, either. We have two AL pennants and a WS title in the last three years......not the damn Yankees. So what if it came out that the Nats were using corked bats in the WS? Do you still not care? Corked bats could have been used for all we know. If they used them, they got away with it. If we stole signs in the WS, we didn't go a very good job of it.......it's all bullshit. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 19, 2019 20:31:38 GMT -6
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Post by Saint on Nov 19, 2019 20:33:28 GMT -6
Cheating is cheating, right? Why is getting a little more pop on contact worse than getting a heads-up on what pitch is coming? Still have to hit the ball, right? I am agreeing with you. Ah, gotcha! |
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Post by Saint on Nov 19, 2019 20:34:29 GMT -6
So what if it came out that the Nats were using corked bats in the WS? Do you still not care? Corked bats could have been used for all we know. If they used them, they got away with it. If we stole signs in the WS, we didn't go a very good job of it.......it's all bullshit. That's not the point. The point is that they beat us with key HRs in Game 7. If they cheated using corked bats to hit those HRs, wouldn't you care? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 19, 2019 20:37:17 GMT -6
It must have, he has been against the Astros signing players that have cheated in the past (PEDs). How do you go from that to being okay with Osuna to not caring about cheating? Trading Giles for Osuna was a no-brainer.......we got rid of a nut job and got a good, young closer who is helping us win games.........That deal was legal.........As for the "cheating", it hasn't been proven yet. In any case, we didn't do a thing that other clubs haven't done or would not do if it helped them win. How do we know teams were stealing our signs in the same way we are being accused of doing? If we did steal sign.....big deal. Aroldis Chapman pulled a gun on a woman and nobody seems to care about that...yet, we got crucifiied for trading for Osuna.............Media ignored Chapman because he is a Yankee. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 19, 2019 20:38:27 GMT -6
It must have, he has been against the Astros signing players that have cheated in the past (PEDs). How do you go from that to being okay with Osuna to not caring about cheating? As long as Osuna didn't pose nude for SI all is well. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 19, 2019 20:41:06 GMT -6
How do you go from that to being okay with Osuna to not caring about cheating? Trading Giles for Osuna was a no-brainer.......we got rid of a nut job and got a good, young closer who is helping us win games.........That deal was legal.........As for the "cheating", it hasn't been proven yet. In any case, we didn't do a thing that other clubs haven't done or would not do if it helped them win. How do we know teams were stealing our signs in the same way we are being accused of doing? If we did steal sign.....big deal. Aroldis Chapman pulled a gun on a woman and nobody seems to care about that...yet, we got crucifiied for trading for Osuna.............Media ignored Chapman because he is a Yankee. I remember the Chapman deal being all over the news. I do not want Osuna or Chapman on my roster. It takes a really big man to assault a woman. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 19, 2019 20:41:31 GMT -6
How do you go from that to being okay with Osuna to not caring about cheating? As long as Osuna didn't pose nude for SI all is well. You need to go pose nude for SI, Kermit. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 19, 2019 20:58:57 GMT -6
Cheating is cheating. It doesn't matter if others are doing it too. I don't understand the argument that some forms of cheating are lesser than others.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 19, 2019 21:25:59 GMT -6
Cheating is cheating. It doesn't matter if others are doing it too. I don't understand the argument that some forms of cheating are lesser than others. That’s the crux of the argument against the Astros if one were to believe that a runner stealing signs from second base is a minor form of cheating. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 19, 2019 22:46:55 GMT -6
How do you go from that to being okay with Osuna to not caring about cheating? As long as Osuna didn't pose nude for SI all is well. amen to that.,..He didn't show his ass like Keuchel did. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 19, 2019 22:50:02 GMT -6
Trading Giles for Osuna was a no-brainer.......we got rid of a nut job and got a good, young closer who is helping us win games.........That deal was legal.........As for the "cheating", it hasn't been proven yet. In any case, we didn't do a thing that other clubs haven't done or would not do if it helped them win. How do we know teams were stealing our signs in the same way we are being accused of doing? If we did steal sign.....big deal. Aroldis Chapman pulled a gun on a woman and nobody seems to care about that...yet, we got crucifiied for trading for Osuna.............Media ignored Chapman because he is a Yankee. I remember the Chapman deal being all over the news. I do not want Osuna or Chapman on my roster. It takes a really big man to assault a woman. I am glad we have Osuna........best closer we have had since Billy Wagner. I had rather not have a guy who struts for the camera and then sticks his foot in his mouth the way Bregman doesk but, he helps us win so I can live with it....that and the fact that he is a left-wing liberal. But, he produces and all is well. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 19, 2019 22:52:00 GMT -6
Cheating is cheating. It doesn't matter if others are doing it too. I don't understand the argument that some forms of cheating are lesser than others. Shoplifting a candy bar in a 7-11 is a crime and so is murder. Both are crimes, but,one much worse than the other. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 19, 2019 22:54:19 GMT -6
Cheating is cheating. It doesn't matter if others are doing it too. I don't understand the argument that some forms of cheating are lesser than others. That’s the crux of the argument against the Astros if one were to believe that a runner stealing signs from second base is a minor form of cheating. Stealing signs from second base is good baseball. I had a player who could pick up the opponent's steal, bunt, hit and run, suicide squeeze,.etc......he was seldom wrong. I called that smart baseball and was glad to have the kid. I also listened to him. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 20, 2019 3:24:53 GMT -6
Cheating is cheating. It doesn't matter if others are doing it too. I don't understand the argument that some forms of cheating are lesser than others. Shoplifting a candy bar in a 7-11 is a crime and so is murder. Both are crimes, but,one much worse than the other. The stealing of a candy bar is a gateway crime to murder.... |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 20, 2019 5:20:02 GMT -6
Shoplifting a candy bar in a 7-11 is a crime and so is murder. Both are crimes, but,one much worse than the other. The stealing of a candy bar is a gateway crime to murder.... Biden 2020! |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 20, 2019 5:21:47 GMT -6
That’s the crux of the argument against the Astros if one were to believe that a runner stealing signs from second base is a minor form of cheating. Stealing signs from second base is good baseball. I had a player who could pick up the opponent's steal, bunt, hit and run, suicide squeeze,.etc......he was seldom wrong. I called that smart baseball and was glad to have the kid. I also listened to him. Stealing signs from second base is like jaywalking. What the Astros did was like shoplifting. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 8:29:21 GMT -6
I'm just ready for this investigation to be over, receive our punishment so we can move on. It's just a shame how spotlighted this case is compared to other cheating scandals.
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Post by Saint on Nov 20, 2019 8:39:37 GMT -6
Cheating is cheating. It doesn't matter if others are doing it too. I don't understand the argument that some forms of cheating are lesser than others. Shoplifting a candy bar in a 7-11 is a crime and so is murder. Both are crimes, but,one much worse than the other. That's why you can't compare to crimes to sports.... That's not a relevant comparison. Using means against the rules to give yourself the upperhand is the same thing. Whether chemical or technological. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 20, 2019 8:40:34 GMT -6
I'm just ready for this investigation to be over, receive our punishment so we can move on. It's just a shame how spotlighted this case is compared to other cheating scandals. At this point, we're spotlighting it more than the media. It's not even major news anymore. |
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