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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 19, 2020 11:22:24 GMT -6
Needs Tommy John Surgery as I suspected. He’s probably played his last game as an Astro.
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Post by Saint on Sept 19, 2020 11:26:55 GMT -6
Well, he had a nice run with us. Does this mean we recoup some money through insurance that could be used to re-sign some people or go after another pitcher?
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 19, 2020 11:28:30 GMT -6
Well...the Astros should trade Carlos and Greinke in the off-season....and go back to tanking for picks, build up the farm again.
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Post by Saint on Sept 19, 2020 11:36:14 GMT -6
Well...the Astros should trade Carlos and Greinke in the off-season....and go back to tanking for picks, build up the farm again. I don't think they'll fully tank with the large commitments to Altuve and Bregman. I bet they try and retool for another run next year. A rotation with: Greinke Framber Javier Urquidy Garcia or whomever Wouldn't be bad. We just need bullpen help. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 19, 2020 12:09:51 GMT -6
Well...the Astros should trade Carlos and Greinke in the off-season....and go back to tanking for picks, build up the farm again. I don't think they'll fully tank with the large commitments to Altuve and Bregman. I bet they try and retool for another run next year. A rotation with: Greinke Framber Javier Urquidy Garcia or whomever Wouldn't be bad. We just need bullpen help. That is a .500 team's rotation at best. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 19, 2020 12:50:22 GMT -6
Well...the Astros should trade Carlos and Greinke in the off-season....and go back to tanking for picks, build up the farm again. They need so many picks. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 19, 2020 13:35:05 GMT -6
Well...the Astros should trade Carlos and Greinke in the off-season....and go back to tanking for picks, build up the farm again. I don't think they'll fully tank with the large commitments to Altuve and Bregman. I bet they try and retool for another run next year. A rotation with: Greinke Framber Javier Urquidy Garcia or whomever Wouldn't be bad. We just need bullpen help. The large commitment to Altuve may end up keeping them from adding what they need to win. He has been a disaster this season. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 19, 2020 13:57:05 GMT -6
Well, he had a nice run with us. Does this mean we recoup some money through insurance that could be used to re-sign some people or go after another pitcher? Calm down, Drayton. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 19, 2020 14:06:24 GMT -6
I don't think they'll fully tank with the large commitments to Altuve and Bregman. I bet they try and retool for another run next year. A rotation with: Greinke Framber Javier Urquidy Garcia or whomever Wouldn't be bad. We just need bullpen help. That is a .500 team's rotation at best. Give Todd credit. He’s trying to be positive even though we think he’s overly optimistic. I don’t see Crane letting us rebuild again because I don’t think he will trust Click or any other GM as much as Luhnow and his boys (Elias, Mejdal, Stearns, etc.). I can see Crane meddling more and getting Click to throw more money at less impressive players. It’s on Click to make the smart decisions. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 19, 2020 14:47:13 GMT -6
Well...the Astros should trade Carlos and Greinke in the off-season....and go back to tanking for picks, build up the farm again. They need so many picks. And still have another year of no top two rounds of picks because they’re dirty cheaters. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 19, 2020 15:40:17 GMT -6
And still have another year of no top two rounds of picks because they’re dirty cheaters. When they start next season, the draft will already be over along with the penalties. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 19, 2020 16:33:30 GMT -6
That is a .500 team's rotation at best. Give Todd credit. He’s trying to be positive even though we think he’s overly optimistic. I don’t see Crane letting us rebuild again because I don’t think he will trust Click or any other GM as much as Luhnow and his boys (Elias, Mejdal, Stearns, etc.). I can see Crane meddling more and getting Click to throw more money at less impressive players. It’s on Click to make the smart decisions. I am not saying to fire Click,but, if they could get Luhnow and Hinch back that would be a great start in getting back to where we want to be. The mistake was not stopping Cora when that sign stealing crap started. It's over and done.........Luhnow and Hinch are serving suspensions......They will soon be eligible to return....Bring them back, especially Hinch because we know Dusty can't cut it. He is a loser. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 19, 2020 17:18:13 GMT -6
I don't think they'll fully tank with the large commitments to Altuve and Bregman. I bet they try and retool for another run next year. A rotation with: Greinke Framber Javier Urquidy Garcia or whomever Wouldn't be bad. We just need bullpen help. That is a .500 team's rotation at best. It's what we've had this year, but it's not their fault we're .500. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 19, 2020 17:18:51 GMT -6
I don't think they'll fully tank with the large commitments to Altuve and Bregman. I bet they try and retool for another run next year. A rotation with: Greinke Framber Javier Urquidy Garcia or whomever Wouldn't be bad. We just need bullpen help. The large commitment to Altuve may end up keeping them from adding what they need to win. He has been a disaster this season. And Bregman. And Greinke. And Verlander. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 19, 2020 19:55:58 GMT -6
Especially Verlander's...$66,000,000 for 1 start.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 19, 2020 19:59:22 GMT -6
Bregman is keeping his streak alive...........0-4 tonight.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 19, 2020 20:01:18 GMT -6
The large commitment to Altuve may end up keeping them from adding what they need to win. He has been a disaster this season. And Bregman. And Greinke. And Verlander. It is beginning to look like Altuve and Bregman both used stealing signs to get top dollar, long-term contracts. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 19, 2020 20:08:45 GMT -6
And Bregman. And Greinke. And Verlander. It is beginning to look like Altuve and Bregman both used stealing signs to get top dollar, long-term contracts. You don't think Astros brass didn't know who was cheating the most, and if it was smart to offer such a big contract...You do realize Altuve absolutely raked on the road, right? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 19, 2020 20:26:32 GMT -6
It is beginning to look like Altuve and Bregman both used stealing signs to get top dollar, long-term contracts. You don't think Astros brass who was cheating the most, and if it was smart to offer such a big contract...You do realize Altuve absolutely raked on the road, right? That’s the silver lining right there. If these were untalented cheaters incapable of coming through without aid, then why would the ringleaders pay them all this money? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Sept 19, 2020 20:33:20 GMT -6
You don't think Astros brass didn't know who was cheating the most, and if it was smart to offer such a big contract...You do realize Altuve absolutely raked on the road, right? That’s the silver lining right there. If these were untalented cheaters incapable of coming through without aid, then why would the ringleaders pay them all this money? I missed putting the word "didn't know" between brass and who |
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Post by Saint on Sept 19, 2020 21:45:11 GMT -6
And Bregman. And Greinke. And Verlander. It is beginning to look like Altuve and Bregman both used stealing signs to get top dollar, long-term contracts. Well so did Springer using your logic. He's making 20+ million this year himself. More than Bregman. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 19, 2020 21:58:32 GMT -6
Using 2020 as a metric for comparing to past years with or without cheating is pointless. It's a crazy year. Bellinger won the MVP this year, and he's barely outhitting Altuve himself. Did he cheat last year and now he isn't?
Some random roleplayer 1B might win the MVP in the AL this year. Old Trevor "Batshit Crazy" Bauer might win the NL CY. The Marlins are probably going to the playoffs and the Brewers aren't. The White Sox and Padres might be the scariest teams in the postseason! 2020 is bonkers, man. Individual awards and performance this year mean hardly anything.
Some players are excelling in this weird environment and some are struggling. I don't think it means anything at all. Like I've said before, with the added adrenaline of the playoffs, I think we'll see a different team out there if they hold on to this 2nd spot.
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 19, 2020 22:01:25 GMT -6
It is beginning to look like Altuve and Bregman both used stealing signs to get top dollar, long-term contracts. You don't think Astros brass didn't know who was cheating the most, and if it was smart to offer such a big contract...You do realize Altuve absolutely raked on the road, right? Yes, he did. For some reason he couldn't rake leaves today. Something is screwy somewhere. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 19, 2020 22:03:01 GMT -6
It is beginning to look like Altuve and Bregman both used stealing signs to get top dollar, long-term contracts. Well so did Springer using your logic. He's making 20+ million this year himself. More than Bregman. And he is producing about as much as Altuve and Bregman combined. To be honest, the only bright spot in our lineup is Tucker. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 19, 2020 22:06:26 GMT -6
Well so did Springer using your logic. He's making 20+ million this year himself. More than Bregman. And he is producing about as much as Altuve and Bregman combined. To be honest, the only bright spot in our lineup is Tucker. That's not the point. The point is that you're calling out Bregman and Altuve for supposedly profiting from the scandal, but your boy did just as much. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 19, 2020 22:07:17 GMT -6
Using 2020 as a metric for comparing to past years with or without cheating is pointless. It's a crazy year. Bellinger won the MVP this year, and he's barely outhitting Altuve himself. Did he cheat last year and now he isn't? Some random roleplayer 1B might win the MVP in the AL this year. Old Trevor "Batshit Crazy" Bauer might win the NL CY. The Marlins are probably going to the playoffs and the Brewers aren't. The White Sox and Padres might be the scariest teams in the postseason! 2020 is bonkers, man. Individual awards and performance this year mean hardly anything. Some players are excelling in this weird environment and some are struggling. I don't think it means anything at all. Like I've said before, with the added adrenaline of the playoffs, I think we'll see a different team out there if they hold on to this 2nd spot. The scandal and the coronavirus have made this season screwed up from the beginning. No normal spring training has led to a lot of these injuries we are seeing. No fans in the stands isn't normal There is nothing remotely normal about this season. I don't think we have much of a shot of beating the A's in the first round......a slight chance,but, not much. If it is a battle of bullpens, we are sunk. We MUST put runs on the board to have a chance. The A's missing Chapman should help us. The loss of Verlander was a big blow to overcome. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 19, 2020 22:08:50 GMT -6
And he is producing about as much as Altuve and Bregman combined. To be honest, the only bright spot in our lineup is Tucker. That's not the point. The point is that you're calling out Bregman and Altuve for supposedly profiting from the scandal, but your boy did just as much. He hasn't signed a huge, long-term deal before the scandal broke, either. Right now, I'd take Springer over Altuve in a heartbeat. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 19, 2020 22:10:57 GMT -6
That's not the point. The point is that you're calling out Bregman and Altuve for supposedly profiting from the scandal, but your boy did just as much. He hasn't signed a huge, long-term deal before the scandal broke, either. Right now, I'd take Springer over Altuve in a heartbeat. That's just because he thinks he can hold out and make even more money when he becomes a FA. He has a WS MVP from that year to use as part of a bargaining chip now. You're just playing favorites. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 20, 2020 3:12:53 GMT -6
And he is producing about as much as Altuve and Bregman combined. To be honest, the only bright spot in our lineup is Tucker. That's not the point. The point is that you're calling out Bregman and Altuve for supposedly profiting from the scandal, but your boy did just as much. And his REAL boy has been mentioned as the cheater who profited the most by cheating. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 20, 2020 9:27:38 GMT -6
He hasn't signed a huge, long-term deal before the scandal broke, either. Right now, I'd take Springer over Altuve in a heartbeat. That's just because he thinks he can hold out and make even more money when he becomes a FA. He has a WS MVP from that year to use as part of a bargaining chip now. You're just playing favorites. Yep, I'm playing favorites. I admit that Springer is my favorite Astros player and has taken a back seat to Altuve and Bregman even though he has shown to be more valuable to the lineup. I don't blame him for wanting to be paid what he is worth which is at least as much or more than Altuve and Bregman. |
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