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Post by bearbryant on Aug 20, 2021 8:31:12 GMT -6
His defense continues to be very good overall. He is on pace for arguably his best defensive season ever. That being said, his offense has trailed off a lot. Still a very good year overall, but he has dropped from consistently hovering around a .875 OPS to now hovering around .825. It would be nice to see him either starting showing more power again, or go on a nice tear where he gets his AVG back up to the .285-.290 range. I think .300 this season is not doable. I just want him to get on base. He is a leadoff hitter after all. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 20, 2021 9:19:00 GMT -6
I just want him to get on base. He is a leadoff hitter after all. At one time, I thought Straw was on his way to being the leadoff hitter. That went south in a hurry and he was eventually traded. I don't like Altuve as the leadoff hitter, but, I don't know who else we have right now who would be a better one. I like Brantley in the second spot |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 20, 2021 9:22:35 GMT -6
I just want him to get on base. He is a leadoff hitter after all. If Cintrón teaches Tucker more patience, he’d be a lethal leadoff hitter. I never thought Altuve had the patience for that spot in the order. He wants to hit. He doesn’t like playing that long drawn out boring waiting game. Batting 3rd or 4th would be better since he doesn’t use his speed much anyway. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 20, 2021 9:23:19 GMT -6
Going into the season I had concerns about Altuve hitting leadoff. I thought there was a good chance Brantley would be batting first come June 1 At one time, I thought Straw was on his way to being the leadoff hitter. That went south in a hurry and he was eventually traded. I don't like Altuve as the leadoff hitter, but, I don't know who else we have right now who would be a better one. I like Brantley in the second spot According to the grapevine, Dusty and Click really butted heads over the trade of Straw. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Aug 20, 2021 10:05:06 GMT -6
I just want him to get on base. He is a leadoff hitter after all. Sounds right. After all, when it comes to the leadoff spot, OBP is King. But how bad is his OBP? This season: .345 Career: .360 Okay, a tad below his career average but up considerably from last year (.286) |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 20, 2021 10:31:19 GMT -6
I just want him to get on base. He is a leadoff hitter after all. Sounds right. After all, when it comes to the leadoff spot, OBP is King. But how bad is his OBP? This season: .345 Career: .360 Okay, a tad below his career average but up considerably from last year (.286) He’s also batting .272, which is 36 points below his career average. But hey, he can hit it far so no worries. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 20, 2021 10:32:01 GMT -6
Going into the season I had concerns about Altuve hitting leadoff. I thought there was a good chance Brantley would be batting first come June 1 If Cintrón teaches Tucker more patience, he’d be a lethal leadoff hitter. I never thought Altuve had the patience for that spot in the order. He wants to hit. He doesn’t like playing that long drawn out boring waiting game. Batting 3rd or 4th would be better since he doesn’t use his speed much anyway. I want my leadoff hitter to want to hit. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 20, 2021 10:32:57 GMT -6
Sounds right. After all, when it comes to the leadoff spot, OBP is King. But how bad is his OBP? This season: .345 Career: .360 Okay, a tad below his career average but up considerably from last year (.286) He’s also batting .272, which is 36 points below his career average. But hey, he can hit it far so no worries. Teams all over the league wish they had a leadoff hitter batting .272. |
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 20, 2021 10:41:45 GMT -6
Altuve's slash line this season is similar to Springer's career slash line, and he was our leadoff hitter for years
Altuve 2021 .272/.345/.479 Springer career .270/.361/.491
Not ideal but it'll do
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Aug 20, 2021 11:03:34 GMT -6
He’s also batting .272, which is 36 points below his career average. But hey, he can hit it far so no worries. Teams all over the league wish they had a leadoff hitter batting .272. But okay, let's look at the BA from the leadoff spot on the team who currently has the best record in all of baseball ... the Giants. Most of their games, they've had LaMonte Wade Jr as the leadoff batter. His BA for the season is .252Second most often has been Austin Slater. His BA for the season is .231Aggregate BA for all Giants batters from the #1 slot in the batting order: .241 So yeah, .278 BA would be an upgrade for them. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 20, 2021 12:16:44 GMT -6
Teams all over the league wish they had a leadoff hitter batting .272. But okay, let's look at the BA from the leadoff spot on the team who currently has the best record in all of baseball ... the Giants. Most of their games, they've had LaMonte Wade Jr as the leadoff batter. His BA for the season is .252Second most often has been Austin Slater. His BA for the season is .231Aggregate BA for all Giants batters from the #1 slot in the batting order: .241 So yeah, .278 BA would be an upgrade for them. Altuve is an elite hitter so there are different expectations. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 20, 2021 12:18:15 GMT -6
If Cintrón teaches Tucker more patience, he’d be a lethal leadoff hitter. I never thought Altuve had the patience for that spot in the order. He wants to hit. He doesn’t like playing that long drawn out boring waiting game. Batting 3rd or 4th would be better since he doesn’t use his speed much anyway. I want my leadoff hitter to want to hit. Would you rather have him hit leadoff or some other spot? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 20, 2021 12:19:16 GMT -6
Altuve's slash line this season is similar to Springer's career slash line, and he was our leadoff hitter for years
Altuve 2021 .272/.345/.479 Springer career .270/.361/.491
Not ideal but it'll do
If Altuve had a .361 OBP, that would be great. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 20, 2021 12:21:15 GMT -6
He’s also batting .272, which is 36 points below his career average. But hey, he can hit it far so no worries. Teams all over the league wish they had a leadoff hitter batting .272. They’d also love a shortstop batting .276. What you gotta say, player? |
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Post by Saint on Aug 20, 2021 13:18:47 GMT -6
I think it's fair to say that Altuve is having a good year, but it's certainly a down year for him. On the plus side, he's appearing very healthy again for the first time since 2017.
I'm fine with him at leadoff, but I think Brantley would probably a better fit at this point.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 20, 2021 13:43:35 GMT -6
I'm not sure why we took a tangent to Batting Average when On Base Percentage is the more important stat regarding leadoff hitters. But okay, let's look at the BA from the leadoff spot on the team who currently has the best record in all of baseball ... the Giants. Most of their games, they've had LaMonte Wade Jr as the leadoff batter. His BA for the season is .252Second most often has been Austin Slater. His BA for the season is .231Aggregate BA for all Giants batters from the #1 slot in the batting order: .241 So yeah, .278 BA would be an upgrade for them. Altuve is an elite hitter so there are different expectations. He is an elite hitter when he isn't trying to pull on every swing and makes the pitcher throw strikes. Since he has decided to become dead pull hitter, his BA and OBP have dropped considerably. Over the last 30 days, he has hit 2 home runs, driven in 7 runs. His BA has been .252, OBP .,300 SLG.369 OPS.669 Those are not the numbers and elite hitter should have. Over the same period of time, Maldonado has a higher OPS. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 20, 2021 13:45:17 GMT -6
I think it's fair to say that Altuve is having a good year, but it's certainly a down year for him. On the plus side, he's appearing very healthy again for the first time since 2017. I'm fine with him at leadoff, but I think Brantley would probably a better fit at this point. A good year for him should see his BA at .300 or higher. He is having a good year power-wise, not so as an overall hitter. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 20, 2021 14:22:09 GMT -6
Teams all over the league wish they had a leadoff hitter batting .272. They’d also love a shortstop batting .276. What you gotta say, player? More proof that you're just a mini-Corch. His is BUTTTTTTT ALLLLTTTTTUUUUUVVEEEE Yours is LLLLLOOOOOVEEEE CCCCCAAAARRRLLLAAAA |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 20, 2021 14:23:09 GMT -6
Altuve's slash line this season is similar to Springer's career slash line, and he was our leadoff hitter for years
Altuve 2021 .272/.345/.479 Springer career .270/.361/.491
Not ideal but it'll do
If Altuve had a .361 OBP, that would be great. you'd still bitch about him. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 20, 2021 14:23:56 GMT -6
I want my leadoff hitter to want to hit. Would you rather have him hit leadoff or some other spot? It only really matters once per game. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 20, 2021 14:33:49 GMT -6
They’d also love a shortstop batting .276. What you gotta say, player? More proof that you're just a mini-Corch. His is BUTTTTTTT ALLLLTTTTTUUUUUVVEEEE Yours is LLLLLOOOOOVEEEE CCCCCAAAARRRLLLAAAA So, defend Carlos with your blue and orange pom-poms. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 20, 2021 14:34:56 GMT -6
If Altuve had a .361 OBP, that would be great. you'd still bitch about him. If there’s a Panama Canal-sized gap between the 2B and 1B and he hits it to the 3B. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 20, 2021 14:37:52 GMT -6
you'd still bitch about him. If there’s a Panama Canal-sized gap between the 2B and 1B and he hits it to the 3B. Regardless. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 20, 2021 14:38:23 GMT -6
More proof that you're just a mini-Corch. His is BUTTTTTTT ALLLLTTTTTUUUUUVVEEEE Yours is LLLLLOOOOOVEEEE CCCCCAAAARRRLLLAAAA So, defend Carlos with your blue and orange pom-poms. Carlos is a fine player who isn't worth 1/10 of what he wants to be paid. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 20, 2021 14:40:00 GMT -6
So, defend Carlos with your blue and orange pom-poms. Carlos is a fine player who isn't worth 1/10 of what he wants to be paid. What player isn’t grossly overpaid to hit a ball and catch one? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 20, 2021 14:51:51 GMT -6
Carlos is a fine player who isn't worth 1/10 of what he wants to be paid. What player isn’t grossly overpaid to hit a ball and catch one? There's overpaid, and then there's $300,000,000 for half a season of slumping/IL overpaid. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 20, 2021 15:05:54 GMT -6
They’d also love a shortstop batting .276. What you gotta say, player? More proof that you're just a mini-Corch. His is BUTTTTTTT ALLLLTTTTTUUUUUVVEEEE Yours is LLLLLOOOOOVEEEE CCCCCAAAARRRLLLAAAA And you totally ignore any weakness when it comes to Altuve because he is your favorite player and bash Correa. You want to point out when Correa is going bad, but, you don't want anyone else to do the same regarding Jose. Over the last 30 days, Correa has been a better overall hitter and has produced more runs. If you have any doubts, check the numbers. Both are great players. www.mlb.com/astros/stats/?timeframe=-29 |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 20, 2021 15:08:31 GMT -6
So, defend Carlos with your blue and orange pom-poms. Carlos is a fine player who isn't worth 1/10 of what he wants to be paid. He is worth as much as any position player on this team and more than some. So, if he wants $30 million a year, you are saying he's only worth $3 million or less? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 20, 2021 15:13:10 GMT -6
Carlos is a fine player who isn't worth 1/10 of what he wants to be paid. He is worth as much as any position player on this team and more than ALTUVVVVVVEEEEEEEE. So, if he wants $30 million a year, you are saying he's only worth $3 million or less? Fixed that for you. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 20, 2021 15:19:00 GMT -6
He is worth as much as any position player on this team and more than ALTUVVVVVVEEEEEEEE. So, if he wants $30 million a year, you are saying he's only worth $3 million or less? Fixed that for you. I did not say "more than Altuve". You "fixed" it to read what you wanted it to say. Correa is worth every bit as much as Altuve, but, he hasn't shown to be worth more. I doubt if we can re-sign him for less than we pay Jose and it will probably take more. Is he worth it? No, but he'll get it from somebody. If it isn't us, we'll be left with a SS that isn't half the player. Teams overpay to get and keep core players if they expect to win. We will have to do the same thing with our core players. |
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