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Post by Saint on Sept 11, 2021 19:04:44 GMT -6
Ohtani is, at worst, a #2 starter, AND an all-star caliber hitter. Correa is having a very good year but Ohtani is amazing. And I was not a believer in him when he got here. It was obvious he could hit, but what he's doing now is game-changing. Has he improved the Angels in any way? They are still a half assed team. We're all aware of your opinion. You can repeat it every day after he is probably the unanimous MVP. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 11, 2021 19:05:30 GMT -6
Andre Dawson and Alex Rodriguez won MVP’s in last place. Most impressive player wins. Yes, in the minds of most. My idea of an MVP is the player who leads his team to a title, not the bottom of the league. Dawson and Rodriguez were impressive, no doubt about it. Because "most" aren't f***ing mongoloids like you are. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 11, 2021 19:08:16 GMT -6
Has he improved the Angels in any way? They are still a half assed team. We're all aware of your opinion. You can repeat it every day after he is probably the unanimous MVP. And, I am well aware that you are in awe of him and his personal stats. He still hasn't done shit to improve his team.....they sucked when he got there and they still suck. So, he puts up numbers and they don't mean jack. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 11, 2021 19:13:08 GMT -6
Yes, in the minds of most. My idea of an MVP is the player who leads his team to a title, not the bottom of the league. Dawson and Rodriguez were impressive, no doubt about it. Because "most" aren't f***ing mongoloids like you are. Thank you for weighing in with your usual brand of vulgarity and BS. Every last one of you can disagree with me and that doesn't bother me in the least. MVP's do something besides put up big numbers. And, I repeat........I am not the one who told our team MVP and best player to GTFO.....That would be you. I am well aware of your opinion of me. but, be sure that my opinion of you is no better. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 11, 2021 19:17:48 GMT -6
Circles.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 11, 2021 19:29:46 GMT -6
Because "most" aren't f***ing mongoloids like you are. Thank you for weighing in with your usual brand of vulgarity and BS. Every last one of you can disagree with me and that doesn't bother me in the least. MVP's do something besides put up big numbers. And, I repeat........I am not the one who told our team MVP and best player to GTFO.....That would be you. I am well aware of your opinion of me. but, be sure that my opinion of you is no better. Mark of a true mongoloid, coming up with an ignorant stance and sticking to it even when every other person in the world knows it's ignorant. |
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Post by Saint on Sept 11, 2021 19:32:15 GMT -6
We're all aware of your opinion. You can repeat it every day after he is probably the unanimous MVP. And, I am well aware that you are in awe of him and his personal stats. He still hasn't done shit to improve his team.....they sucked when he got there and they still suck. So, he puts up numbers and they don't mean jack. Anybody that knows baseball is in awe of what he's doing. He can't play every position for his team but he sure is trying. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 11, 2021 19:32:31 GMT -6
Someone tell Bregman he can’t just take every outside pitch.
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Post by Saint on Sept 11, 2021 19:33:05 GMT -6
Hopefully we can get to their bullpen.
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Post by Saint on Sept 11, 2021 19:33:31 GMT -6
Someone tell Bregman he can’t just take every outside pitch. He's hitting like .400 since he came back. Leave him alone, you bully. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 11, 2021 19:35:53 GMT -6
Someone tell Bregman he can’t just take every outside pitch. He's hitting like .400 since he came back. Leave him alone, you bully. Not to mention that just last week Sherwie was bitching about players not taking outside pitches. |
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Post by koolade2 on Sept 11, 2021 19:38:22 GMT -6
One Question if Ohtani wasn't on the Angels would their record be the same or much worse.
Following Corch's view, he doesn't raise them up. My only contention is as I said last nite a Player of Ohtani caliber and is on a team and if that is so how much better would have to play to have them in contention for a playoff spot.
Since this is a Team Sport with individual Stats how much should it be on Just one player, even one who is playing better than anyone else on his team on average to be the sole reason they are or aren't in the Playoffs
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 11, 2021 19:39:01 GMT -6
Someone tell Bregman he can’t just take every outside pitch. He's hitting like .400 since he came back. Leave him alone, you bully. He’s been doing great, just pointing out something. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 11, 2021 19:39:27 GMT -6
He's hitting like .400 since he came back. Leave him alone, you bully. Not to mention that just last week Sherwie was bitching about players not taking outside pitches. Taking or not taking? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 11, 2021 19:45:45 GMT -6
How is Bielak not better with the stuff that he has? Walsh just struck out on a 91 mph changeup.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Sept 11, 2021 19:46:39 GMT -6
Not to mention that just last week Sherwie was bitching about players not taking outside pitches. Taking or not taking? You were complaining about them swinging at outside pitches. Now, as usual in your fickleness, you're complaining about not swing at outside pitches. |
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Post by koolade2 on Sept 11, 2021 19:46:42 GMT -6
I just want to know when this team will have back-to-back strong wins and not go to sleep the very next day with a subpar showing.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 11, 2021 19:47:31 GMT -6
You were complaining about them swinging at outside pitches. Now, as usual in your fickleness, you're complaining about not swing at outside pitches. That might’ve been the Melancon game where he kept throwing his cutter out of the zone. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 11, 2021 19:47:45 GMT -6
I just want to know when this team will have back-to-back strong wins and not go to sleep the very next day with a subpar showing. Preach. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 11, 2021 19:49:24 GMT -6
Thank you for weighing in with your usual brand of vulgarity and BS. Every last one of you can disagree with me and that doesn't bother me in the least. MVP's do something besides put up big numbers. And, I repeat........I am not the one who told our team MVP and best player to GTFO.....That would be you. I am well aware of your opinion of me. but, be sure that my opinion of you is no better. Mark of a true mongoloid, coming up with an ignorant stance and sticking to it even when every other person in the world knows it's ignorant. There is no place other than professional sports where the guy who gets the most media attention and makes daily appearances on ESPN wins an MVP when his team is terrible. Look at every sport below the professional level and the MVP will be selected from the team that WINS. I was on committees that selected all-district, all-region, and all-state teams and every last one of the MVP's came from the team that won the title. We didn't give it to a guy with the best numbers on a team that didn't do shit. When have you seen Conference MVP's in college sports selected from losing teams? It doesn't happen. The media is impressed with gaudy stats and they are good for personal recognition. But, stats that don't help a team WIN don't mean a thing except to those who are stat geeks. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 11, 2021 19:49:29 GMT -6
Andre Dawson and Alex Rodriguez won MVP’s in last place. Most impressive player wins. Yes, in the minds of most. My idea of an MVP is the player who leads his team to a title, not the bottom of the league. Dawson and Rodriguez were impressive, no doubt about it. You put too much on Ohtani. His team sucks, and they’re getting nothing from Rendon and Trout (and Pujols). It wouldn’t be fair to punish a superstar player for that. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 11, 2021 19:53:50 GMT -6
One Question if Ohtani wasn't on the Angels would their record be the same or much worse. Following Corch's view, he doesn't raise them up. My only contention is as I said last nite a Player of Ohtani caliber and is on a team and if that is so how much better would have to play to have them in contention for a playoff spot. Since this is a Team Sport with individual Stats how much should it be on Just one player, even one who is playing better than anyone else on his team on average to be the sole reason they are or aren't in the Playoffs If Ohtani put up these numbers for the Astros, Yankees, White Sox, Rays, etc. he should be the unanimous MVP. As it is, his numbers do not improve the Angels position in the standings, and, they would be no worse without him. They would still finish ahead of the Rangers but trail the other three teams in the division. But, since he leads the league in home runs and pitches, he is the golden boy. His batting average is around .260 ,but, who cares.....he hits home runs. LOL LOL To answer your question, the Angels would be in the EXACT position in the AL West standings with or without Ohtani. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 11, 2021 19:57:43 GMT -6
Yes, in the minds of most. My idea of an MVP is the player who leads his team to a title, not the bottom of the league. Dawson and Rodriguez were impressive, no doubt about it. You put too much on Ohtani. His team sucks, and they’re getting nothing from Rendon and Trout (and Pujols). It wouldn’t be fair to punish a superstar player for that. Exactly my main point. If they had a healthy Trout and Rendon, they would probably be challenging for a playoff spot. It is NOT Ohtani's fault those two are injured and can't contribute. Ohtani is a superstar......no question about it. I wouldn't say he was being punished if he didn't receive the MVP. If the winner of the award was on the team that won the AL, or at least a division title, then, that player would be rewarded instead of Ohtani being punished. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Sept 11, 2021 19:58:56 GMT -6
I just want to know when this team will have back-to-back strong wins and not go to sleep the very next day with a subpar showing. I think all of us want to know that. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 11, 2021 20:00:32 GMT -6
You put too much on Ohtani. His team sucks, and they’re getting nothing from Rendon and Trout (and Pujols). It wouldn’t be fair to punish a superstar player for that. Exactly my main point. If they had a healthy Trout and Rendon, they would probably be challenging for a playoff spot. It is NOT Ohtani's fault those two are injured and can't contribute. Ohtani is a superstar......no question about it. I wouldn't say he was being punished if he didn't receive the MVP. If the winner of the award was on the team that won the AL, or at least a division title, then, that player would be rewarded instead of Ohtani being punished. So, if a worse offensive player was on a better team, then he should get an MVP over a better player? |
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Post by Saint on Sept 11, 2021 20:04:35 GMT -6
Do something, Jose! We need it!
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Post by Saint on Sept 11, 2021 20:05:57 GMT -6
Well shit.
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Post by unionstation82 on Sept 11, 2021 20:06:11 GMT -6
Do something, Jose! We need it! At least he hit it the other way. |
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Post by koolade2 on Sept 11, 2021 20:08:53 GMT -6
I know he gets blasted for the first ball hitting but that was the better pitch to hit and goes for one outside on the second pitch. If he is going to be that aggressive I wish he would have gone for the first as it was in his zone.
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Post by bearbryant on Sept 11, 2021 20:11:11 GMT -6
Exactly my main point. If they had a healthy Trout and Rendon, they would probably be challenging for a playoff spot. It is NOT Ohtani's fault those two are injured and can't contribute. Ohtani is a superstar......no question about it. I wouldn't say he was being punished if he didn't receive the MVP. If the winner of the award was on the team that won the AL, or at least a division title, then, that player would be rewarded instead of Ohtani being punished. So, if a worse offensive player was on a better team, then he should get an MVP over a better player? |
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