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Post by olpapa on Nov 3, 2021 16:56:45 GMT -6
These players are ineligible for a QO and would not cost us a draft pick if we signed them:
Javier Báez (midseason trade), Kris Bryant (midseason trade), Alex Cobb (previous QO), Nelson Cruz (previous QO/midseason trade), Danny Duffy (midseason trade), Eduardo Escobar (midseason trade), Kevin Gausman (previous QO), Kendall Graveman (midseason trade), Zack Greinke (previous QO), Kenley Jansen (previous QO), Starling Marte (midseason trade), Anthony Rizzo (midseason trade), Max Scherzer (previous QO/midseason trade), Kyle Schwarber (midseason trade), Marcus Stroman (previous QO)
Would you be for signing one of these guys?
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 3, 2021 16:56:52 GMT -6
These players are a lock to receive a QO: Freddie Freeman, Clayton Kershaw, Robbie Ray, Carlos Rodón, Corey Seager, Marcus Semien, Trevor Story Would you give up our second highest pick to sign any of these guys? It would be hard to, considering our recent loss of draft picks. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 3, 2021 16:58:27 GMT -6
These players are ineligible for a QO and would not cost us a draft pick if we signed them: Javier Báez (midseason trade), Kris Bryant (midseason trade), Alex Cobb (previous QO), Nelson Cruz (previous QO/midseason trade), Danny Duffy (midseason trade), Eduardo Escobar (midseason trade), Kevin Gausman (previous QO), Kendall Graveman (midseason trade), Zack Greinke (previous QO), Kenley Jansen (previous QO), Starling Marte (midseason trade), Anthony Rizzo (midseason trade), Max Scherzer (previous QO/midseason trade), Kyle Schwarber (midseason trade), Marcus Stroman (previous QO) Would you be for signing one of these guys? I love Baez and Bryant as fits here. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 3, 2021 17:04:50 GMT -6
These players are ineligible for a QO and would not cost us a draft pick if we signed them: Javier Báez (midseason trade), Kris Bryant (midseason trade), Alex Cobb (previous QO), Nelson Cruz (previous QO/midseason trade), Danny Duffy (midseason trade), Eduardo Escobar (midseason trade), Kevin Gausman (previous QO), Kendall Graveman (midseason trade), Zack Greinke (previous QO), Kenley Jansen (previous QO), Starling Marte (midseason trade), Anthony Rizzo (midseason trade), Max Scherzer (previous QO/midseason trade), Kyle Schwarber (midseason trade), Marcus Stroman (previous QO) Would you be for signing one of these guys? I would like Báez more if he weren’t a K machine. His defense is great, though. I’m not sure if he’s more of a 2B or SS. Bryant and Marte are my picks. |
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Post by m240 on Nov 3, 2021 17:59:38 GMT -6
A couple of weeks ago Stroman made a statement about putting the whole trash can gig behind us. I wonder if that was a gesture to put his old comments behind him.
Baez may be able to be fixed.
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 3, 2021 18:36:14 GMT -6
A couple of weeks ago Stroman made a statement about putting the whole trash can gig behind us. I wonder if that was a gesture to put his old comments behind him. Baez may be able to be fixed. I like Baez. He can play D and he brings fire to the team. |
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Post by talshill on Nov 3, 2021 20:47:57 GMT -6
Hard to know how FA will work out with a new CBA yet to be hammered out.
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 3, 2021 21:21:26 GMT -6
Hard to know how FA will work out with a new CBA yet to be hammered out. Was just thinking the same thing. You doctors are smart... |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 3, 2021 21:24:00 GMT -6
Baez is clearly a fit, but like Correa he'll be looking for a long-term deal, no less than five years I imagine. I feel like they'd rather go short-term at SS and wait for Pena. I'm not sure I want to lock us in on Baez for the next half decade at $18-$20 million per.
Gausman would be an ideal target, but pretty much all 29 other teams can say the same. He likely gets 5-6 years are $25 million each.
Stroman would be a nice pickup, another ground ball guy like Framber and McCullers who could benefit from our infield defense, and shouldn't be as costly as Gausman (four years, $20 million each probably gets Stroman).
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 3, 2021 21:52:31 GMT -6
Baez is clearly a fit, but like Correa he'll be looking for a long-term deal, no less than five years I imagine. I feel like they'd rather go short-term at SS and wait for Pena. I'm not sure I want to lock us in on Baez for the next half decade at $18-$20 million per. Gausman would be an ideal target, but pretty much all 29 other teams can say the same. He likely gets 5-6 years are $25 million each. Stroman would be a nice pickup, another ground ball guy like Framber and McCullers who could benefit from our infield defense, and shouldn't be as costly as Gausman (four years, $20 million each probably gets Stroman). Gausman doesn’t have that QO tag, which makes him an attractive option for the rotation. The further I could push Framber down the rotation, the better. |
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Post by talshill on Nov 3, 2021 22:15:14 GMT -6
Hard to know how FA will work out with a new CBA yet to be hammered out. Was just thinking the same thing. You doctors are smart... I slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 3, 2021 22:20:38 GMT -6
Baez is clearly a fit, but like Correa he'll be looking for a long-term deal, no less than five years I imagine. I feel like they'd rather go short-term at SS and wait for Pena. I'm not sure I want to lock us in on Baez for the next half decade at $18-$20 million per. Gausman would be an ideal target, but pretty much all 29 other teams can say the same. He likely gets 5-6 years are $25 million each. Stroman would be a nice pickup, another ground ball guy like Framber and McCullers who could benefit from our infield defense, and shouldn't be as costly as Gausman (four years, $20 million each probably gets Stroman). Gausman doesn’t have that QO tag, which makes him an attractive option for the rotation. The further I could push Framber down the rotation, the better. Gausman, McCullers, Framber, Garcia, Urquidy would be quite nice, to say nothing of if JV accepts the QO. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 4, 2021 12:03:08 GMT -6
I’ll start: 1. Starting pitcher(s). I predict no less than two. Nah. If you go to the FA market you select the player based on how they fit, primarily on defense and overall batting prowess. Then adjust your batting order if necessary. 3. Ace defender shortstop. 'Ace"? I dunno. SS seems a position that needs to be filled at least temporarily through FA acquisition. But for how long? Not 100% certain Click won't sign Mr Timex but if not we should expect someone solid but not necessarily a GG contender. Maybe? There should be plenty of good relievers on the FA market this winter and Graveman will be near if not at the of the list. I reckon Click will sign one. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Nov 4, 2021 12:08:32 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 4, 2021 12:21:51 GMT -6
I’ll start: 1. Starting pitcher(s). I predict no less than two. Nah. If you go to the FA market you select the player based on how they fit, primarily on defense and overall batting prowess. Then adjust your batting order if necessary. 3. Ace defender shortstop. 'Ace"? I dunno. SS seems a position that needs to be filled at least temporarily through FA acquisition. But for how long? Not 100% certain Click won't sign Mr Timex but if not we should expect someone solid but not necessarily a GG contender. Maybe? There should be plenty of good relievers on the FA market this winter and Graveman will be near if not at the of the list. I reckon Click will sign one. 1. That many? I’d take a flyer on Gausman because of the lack of draft penalty. 2. This is my optional one. I’m not a fan of the impatient leadoff approach. Altuve is an RBI guy and that’s wasted at leadoff. I’d be tempted to try Tucker there mainly for the speed and steals. 3. I don’t think we need Alex Rodriguez at shortstop, but I’d put a premium on defense. Altuve’s arm and Bregman’s range require help. 4. I like Graveman but he’ll be highly coveted for the same reason as Gausman. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 4, 2021 12:23:08 GMT -6
5. I appreciate this for stability’s sake. Dusty did a decent job even if he was annoying with the overuse of García and Raley. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 4, 2021 13:57:12 GMT -6
Anyone want Joe Kelly?
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 4, 2021 14:03:20 GMT -6
Like saying, does any Astros fan want herpes? |
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Post by abregmanfan on Nov 4, 2021 14:50:28 GMT -6
I thought you eliminated stupid talk.?. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 4, 2021 15:41:03 GMT -6
These players are a lock to receive a QO: Freddie Freeman, Clayton Kershaw, Robbie Ray, Carlos Rodón, Corey Seager, Marcus Semien, Trevor Story Would you give up our second highest pick to sign any of these guys? Ray yes, Rodon depends on how healthy they think he is. Seager yes but I wouldn't want to meet his asking price so moot point there. Pass on the others. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 4, 2021 15:42:19 GMT -6
Only if we can trade him to the Chinese league immediately after. |
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Post by olpapa on Nov 4, 2021 15:43:41 GMT -6
These players are a lock to receive a QO: Freddie Freeman, Clayton Kershaw, Robbie Ray, Carlos Rodón, Corey Seager, Marcus Semien, Trevor Story Would you give up our second highest pick to sign any of these guys? Ray yes, Rodon depends on how healthy they think he is. Seager yes but I wouldn't want to meet his asking price so moot point there. Pass on the others. Has Rodón ever had a full season that he didn’t miss time due to injury? |
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Post by olpapa on Nov 4, 2021 15:45:36 GMT -6
Only if we can trade him to the Chinese league immediately after. ..... immediately after we beat the crap out of him. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Nov 4, 2021 15:58:01 GMT -6
No one interested in Kershaw? (I know, he's probably re-signing with el doyers)
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Post by Saint on Nov 4, 2021 16:42:39 GMT -6
No one interested in Kershaw? (I know, he's probably re-signing with el doyers) Kershaw should go the Posey route. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 4, 2021 16:46:09 GMT -6
I'd be good with a 5-year deal on Baez. I don't think we should count on Pena 100%. Besides, if Pena is great he could be worked in plenty. I'm sure we'd be able to shuffle Altuve, Bregman, Baez, and Pena around plenty.
Gives us good infield depth for multiple years to replace Diaz when he becomes a free agent.
Add a good free agent starter and reliever, kick the tires on McCutchen, and pray that Yuli can have another decent year at 1B with maybe a little more power.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 4, 2021 17:44:34 GMT -6
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 4, 2021 18:31:33 GMT -6
I'd be good with a 5-year deal on Baez. I don't think we should count on Pena 100%. Besides, if Pena is great he could be worked in plenty. I'm sure we'd be able to shuffle Altuve, Bregman, Baez, and Pena around plenty. Gives us good infield depth for multiple years to replace Diaz when he becomes a free agent. Add a good free agent starter and reliever, kick the tires on McCutchen, and pray that Yuli can have another decent year at 1B with maybe a little more power. Should we take a chance on a guy who K’s so much like Báez? The defense is good for sure. |
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Post by kyledriver1980 on Nov 4, 2021 19:09:18 GMT -6
Yuli will be back in 2022. Kind of a given but it is now official. Story Here |
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Post by Ashitaka on Nov 4, 2021 19:25:32 GMT -6
Ray yes, Rodon depends on how healthy they think he is. Seager yes but I wouldn't want to meet his asking price so moot point there. Pass on the others. Has Rodón ever had a full season that he didn’t miss time due to injury? No. But neither has McCullers. |
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