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Post by Saint on Mar 23, 2022 10:36:50 GMT -6
"I guess Crane only wants to pay MVP or near MVP level players." And shouldn't it be that way? Whether they will be good extensions/signings or not isn't the point. The point is that he DID spend substantial money to keep many of our high level performers. The ones that were willing to be reasonable with their expectations and not go overboard with their egos. As for Verlander, that's a weird comparison because they bring totally different types of value. Besides, JV was $50+ million dollars less and has shown historically that he can put together back to back healthy seasons.....unlike Carlos. And correct me if I'm wrong, but Carlos hasn't magically fixed his back issue right? He needs constant massage therapy on it to keep going, right? Again, I think the deal he got from Minnesota is something we could have done, but I'm not going to lose sleep over losing Carlos. By all accounts, Pena will be very good defensively as well and he has shown the last couple seasons that he has pretty solid offensive potential as well. As the season progresses I'm sure they will assess the areas we're weak at and they'll look into trade acquisitions. I'm more concerned with the health of our OF than our production at SS. The issue with trades is our farm system sucks now, which is another reason why I’d rather have had Correa re-signed. It’s the time to spend and draft if they want to keep this thing going optimally. As far as the back issue, he’s been healthy enough the past couple years it seems and enough to hit 20+ homers and garner a Platinum Glove award. Seager got 10/$350 mil and as I recall needed an epidural to play us in the World Series. These are just convenient excuses because the man is cocky and rubs people the wrong way. But how a player is perceived by fans and other players goes a long way towards his value. Besides, Seager's deal was also horribly stupid. |
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Post by Saint on Mar 23, 2022 10:55:58 GMT -6
If I were him I’d bail on the Padres and go to a different contender. Apparently, their expensive star player behaves like a moron in his spare time. He’s also teammates with Machado, gross. He's not a free agent... Padres want to trade him, but no one really wants to take on that 20 million.... So, I think the Astros could him for next to nothing, and probably cash considerations. I do see him as an upgrade over McCormick or Siri... What about Conforto? He's not a strong defensive OFer, but he has played all three positions. Or they could take a gamble on Pham for probably an inexpensive contract. I like Chas and Meyers, but I don't trust the health of Brantley (or Yordan if he plays more OF). Look at this: Altuve 2B Brantley LF Bregman 3B Yordan DH Tucker CF Conforto RF Gurriel 1B Pena SS Maldonado/Castro C I know they don't want to do Tucker in CF, but we could do it this year and then move him out next year when we lose Brantley: Altuve 2B Pena SS Bregman 3B Yordan DH Tucker RF Conforto LF 1B?  Leon CF Korey Lee C With Chas and Meyers as 4th and 5th OFers. |
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Post by m240 on Mar 23, 2022 11:01:28 GMT -6
When you go from 7 solid bats to 6 your ability to score takes a big dive. We have to have another solid bat or we will be in trouble
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Post by thomasj13 on Mar 23, 2022 11:05:03 GMT -6
When you go from 7 solid bats to 6 your ability to score takes a big dive. We have to have another solid bat or we will be in trouble Any ideas what the Astros would have to give up to get Wilson Contreras? He is a pending 2023 FA, so I hope the ask would not to be too high. |
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Post by m240 on Mar 23, 2022 11:15:24 GMT -6
When you go from 7 solid bats to 6 your ability to score takes a big dive. We have to have another solid bat or we will be in trouble Any ideas what the Astros would have to give up to get Wilson Contreras? He is a pending 2023 FA, so I hope the ask would not to be too high. Honestly I have not been keeping up with things as I normally do. At this point I would hate to speculate |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Mar 23, 2022 13:05:35 GMT -6
I think we need to see what the cost is for Frankie Monatas.
This and one of the CFs.
This could help our team tremendously
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 23, 2022 13:52:28 GMT -6
I think we need to see what the cost is for Frankie Monatas. This and one of the CFs. This could help our team tremendously I think León is their ace in the hole to be honest. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 23, 2022 13:53:05 GMT -6
When you go from 7 solid bats to 6 your ability to score takes a big dive. We have to have another solid bat or we will be in trouble Not just that but one of your everyday hitters is Martín Maldonado. That’s another hit. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Mar 23, 2022 14:05:05 GMT -6
Any ideas what the Astros would have to give up to get Wilson Contreras? He is a pending 2023 FA, so I hope the ask would not to be too high. Assuming the Cubs are in build-mode, I kinda doubt the Astros will carry three catchers on the active roster. Do you think they would broom Martin Maldonado or Jason cASTRO? |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Mar 23, 2022 14:13:34 GMT -6
I think we need to see what the cost is for Frankie Monatas. This and one of the CFs. This could help our team tremendously The A's just cashed in Matt Chapman for four prospects, so they're obviously in build mode. But I doubt they'll be entertaining trade offers on Montas until after they trade Sean Manaea, who has a shorter shelf life. Well, maybe they'll flip Montas first if the offer is too good to ignore? idk. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Mar 23, 2022 14:18:53 GMT -6
It makes sense to me, if you're gonna continue with the DH garbage. I love the name especially since that alone is grinding someone's gears, somewhere out there. Retention of the Ghost runner eh? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Mar 23, 2022 15:08:07 GMT -6
Any ideas what the Astros would have to give up to get Wilson Contreras? He is a pending 2023 FA, so I hope the ask would not to be too high. Assuming the Cubs are in build-mode, I kinda doubt the Astros will carry three catchers on the active roster. Do you think they would broom Martin Maldonado or Jason cASTRO? Castro would be traded....Along with a prospect (top 7-12) and hopefully an expendable player (Montero). |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Mar 23, 2022 16:57:51 GMT -6
Assuming the Cubs are in build-mode, I kinda doubt the Astros will carry three catchers on the active roster. Do you think they would broom Martin Maldonado or Jason cASTRO? Castro would be traded....Along with a prospect (top 7-12) and hopefully an expendable player (Montero). Castro would have a small positive trade value, providing you can find a team interested in him. Montero isn't expensive ($2.7MM) but since this is his final year of team control, won't be of interest to a team in build-mode. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Mar 23, 2022 17:26:19 GMT -6
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Post by Ashitaka on Mar 23, 2022 17:27:20 GMT -6
Conforto would be a decent fit, but I don't think they want to pick up someone who will block CF. I think they really are high on Meyers and Leon.
Moot point though, since there's a qualifying offer attached to Conforto. Not going to give up a pick to get him.
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Post by Ashitaka on Mar 23, 2022 19:12:02 GMT -6
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Post by thomasj13 on Mar 23, 2022 19:14:14 GMT -6
He knew what time it was, Pena Time! |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 24, 2022 8:28:02 GMT -6
Pham signs with Reds
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Post by Saint on Mar 24, 2022 9:04:51 GMT -6
Conforto would be a decent fit, but I don't think they want to pick up someone who will block CF. I think they really are high on Meyers and Leon. Moot point though, since there's a qualifying offer attached to Conforto. Not going to give up a pick to get him. He wouldn't have to block CF for long though. Brantley is likely gone after this season. You could have Conforto/Tucker/Leon-Meyers-Chas in 2023. We're already getting an extra pick with CC signing with Minnesota, so it wouldn't hurt as bad. Plus, it would likely make his salary demands a little lower. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Mar 24, 2022 11:09:12 GMT -6
Conforto would be a decent fit, but I don't think they want to pick up someone who will block CF. I think they really are high on Meyers and Leon. Moot point though, since there's a qualifying offer attached to Conforto. Not going to give up a pick to get him. He wouldn't have to block CF for long though. Brantley is likely gone after this season. You could have Conforto/Tucker/Leon-Meyers-Chas in 2023. We're already getting an extra pick with CC signing with Minnesota, so it wouldn't hurt as bad. Plus, it would likely make his salary demands a little lower. Farm is still depleted after trades and graduations though, I doubt they want to lose a pick for any reason, especially a non-superstar who needs to rebound. Plus you're still talking about blocking Meyers for probably 5 months of MLB ABs. That's no small thing. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Mar 24, 2022 11:09:35 GMT -6
Fiers so afraid he's fleeing to Mexico.
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Post by Saint on Mar 24, 2022 11:27:09 GMT -6
He wouldn't have to block CF for long though. Brantley is likely gone after this season. You could have Conforto/Tucker/Leon-Meyers-Chas in 2023. We're already getting an extra pick with CC signing with Minnesota, so it wouldn't hurt as bad. Plus, it would likely make his salary demands a little lower. Farm is still depleted after trades and graduations though, I doubt they want to lose a pick for any reason, especially a non-superstar who needs to rebound. Plus you're still talking about blocking Meyers for probably 5 months of MLB ABs. That's no small thing. Meyers is going to miss the beginning of the year, and it's not like Brantley is going to play 162 games. Meyers could still get plenty of playing time. All that being said, I don't think they would sign him either. I just think it could be a good fit to replace some of our offense this year, and to improve the OF after Brantley is gone. |
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Post by bearbryant on Mar 24, 2022 19:07:08 GMT -6
I'm not sure why people are upset with Click... in his first two seasons we've been a win away from getting to the WS, and then two wins away from winning the WS. He's made some good moves (and some bad moves), and he hasn't panicked with some guys leaving... |
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 25, 2022 7:54:29 GMT -6
Conforto would be a decent fit, but I don't think they want to pick up someone who will block CF. I think they really are high on Meyers and Leon. Moot point though, since there's a qualifying offer attached to Conforto. Not going to give up a pick to get him. He wouldn't have to block CF for long though. Brantley is likely gone after this season. You could have Conforto/Tucker/Leon-Meyers-Chas in 2023. We're already getting an extra pick with CC signing with Minnesota, so it wouldn't hurt as bad. Plus, it would likely make his salary demands a little lower. Forgot about the draft pick. At least that’s a decent consolation prize. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 25, 2022 7:57:23 GMT -6
I'm not sure why people are upset with Click... in his first two seasons we've been a win away from getting to the WS, and then two wins away from winning the WS. He's made some good moves (and some bad moves), and he hasn't panicked with some guys leaving... With Verlander on limited innings, McCullers on another vision quest, Framber trying to remember the concept of control, Urquidy’s shoulder, and trying not to overwork García, Click may have to worry about adding to the pitching to avoid some burnout. That is unless he’s banking on Whitley. So far, they just have that malcontent Odorizzi available for help. |
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Post by bearbryant on Mar 25, 2022 8:15:12 GMT -6
It wouldn't be fair to deny Click credit for the additions he made to the roster during the season last year. We wouldn't have won the pennant without them, and the fact that we even had chips other teams wanted to get them was something I didn't expect With Verlander on limited innings, McCullers on another vision quest, Framber trying to remember the concept of control, Urquidy’s shoulder, and trying not to overwork García, Click may have to worry about adding to the pitching to avoid some burnout. That is unless he’s banking on Whitley. So far, they just have that malcontent Odorizzi available for help. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 25, 2022 8:56:14 GMT -6
With Verlander on limited innings, McCullers on another vision quest, Framber trying to remember the concept of control, Urquidy’s shoulder, and trying not to overwork García, Click may have to worry about adding to the pitching to avoid some burnout. That is unless he’s banking on Whitley. So far, they just have that malcontent Odorizzi available for help. As far as I see it by signing Neris to be their Graveman type guy, they kind of have a surplus of relievers, especially with Báez and Montero seemingly healthy. They could use that to shore up more deficient areas. They also need a replacement for Pressly for when they let him go for wanting too much money. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Mar 25, 2022 12:06:09 GMT -6
Since this off-season has been pretty lame, time to play Armchair GM
Do a 3 way trade with Cubs and Padres
Astros get
Myers (with $3M cash considerations)
Contreras
Cubs get
Castro
Siri
A top 10 prospect from the Padres
A top 25 prospect from the Astros
Padres get (main thing is to dump Myers salary)
Montero
Some top 25 Cubs prospect
After this trade
Padres will sign Confronto
Astros will sign Archer or Rosenthal
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 25, 2022 12:12:30 GMT -6
Did yall see the Julia interview with Castro where he basically said he was retiring after this season?
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 25, 2022 12:15:00 GMT -6
Did yall see the Julia interview with Castro where he basically said he was retiring after this season? Good for him, he’d be playing just as often if that’s the case. |
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