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Post by m240 on May 22, 2022 8:19:48 GMT -6
I would rather have a bunch of good/not great guys (750-800 ops) versus a few great guys (850+ops) any day of the week.
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Post by thomasj13 on May 22, 2022 10:26:21 GMT -6
If you could make an offer for Soto. What do you think it would take? Heard Nationals could possibly shop him. I kinda like K. Ruiz there catcher. Can you and your sources facilitate a trade with the Reds? Astro send Odorizzi and Castro for Tyler Stephenson....Make it happen Nathan.... You might have to sweeten the deal just a tad, throw in Goodrum. |
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Post by churchill on May 22, 2022 15:52:59 GMT -6
Does anyone here regret the Sandoval trade?
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Post by unionstation82 on May 22, 2022 17:04:33 GMT -6
Does anyone here regret the Sandoval trade? Do you regret signing Pujols? |
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Post by m240 on May 22, 2022 18:39:07 GMT -6
Does anyone here regret the Sandoval trade? yep, olpapa and myself were happy when we drafted him and bitched about trading him. |
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Post by thomasj13 on May 22, 2022 18:48:12 GMT -6
Does anyone here regret the Sandoval trade? Angels schedule looks pretty tough for next couple of weeks.....If you don't lose ground that will be impressive. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on May 22, 2022 18:53:41 GMT -6
Does anyone here regret the Sandoval trade? I watched the last few innings of the Angels game today, and I must ask: How the F do you deal with your shitty announcers and their proclivity for adding -ie to EVERY SINGLE PERSON'S NAME? Trout-ie Sand-ie Snyd-ie Rend-ie Ward-ie Walsh-ie Igg-ie ... |
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Post by Ashitaka on May 22, 2022 19:15:45 GMT -6
So you wouldn't offer Jose Urquidy, Korey Lee,Pedro Leon, Christian Javier and Forrest Whitley for Juan Soto and K. Ruiz and see where there at with that kind of offer? You don't offer something that you know the other side will laugh at. People won't deal with you if they think you aren't serious and just low-ball them. Soto is arguably one of the ten or so best players on the planet. You don't offer them a couple of back-end starters and two good-but-not-excellent prospects and expect them to not slam the phone on you. For Soto they would demand Pena...for starters. |
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Post by churchill on May 22, 2022 19:30:44 GMT -6
Does anyone here regret the Sandoval trade? I watched the last few innings of the Angels game today, and I must ask: How the F do you deal with your shitty announcers and their proclivity for adding -ie to EVERY SINGLE PERSON'S NAME? Trout-ie Sand-ie Snyd-ie Rend-ie Ward-ie Walsh-ie Igg-ie ... Yeah, i know O'Neal is there because Matt Vasgersian ,who was hired and planned to broadcast remotely because he was under contract with MLB network. He couldn't travel coast to coast that much and the remote things sucked. I imagine he will broadcast most of the games when they play NY.we complain about it too. |
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Post by churchill on May 22, 2022 19:40:04 GMT -6
Does anyone here regret the Sandoval trade? Do you regret signing Pujols? ls that retorical? |
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Post by unionstation82 on May 22, 2022 20:30:12 GMT -6
Do you regret signing Pujols? ls that retorical? Maybe. |
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Post by Ashitaka on May 22, 2022 22:45:49 GMT -6
I just realized that Altuve is on-pace for like 50 bombs.
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Post by Saint on May 23, 2022 9:42:37 GMT -6
I just realized that Altuve is on-pace for like 50 bombs. If he hadn't missed that couple weeks and his baserunning was a little better, he'd easily be up there in early MVP talks again. |
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Post by Saint on May 23, 2022 10:02:50 GMT -6
So as frustrating as Bregman has been, from a purely analytical standpoint he's actually not doing that poorly overall.
Yes, he is struggling currently, but he is on pace for:
19 HR 89 RBI 81 Runs 100 BB 39 Doubles 125 OPS+
That means, despite the low batting average (.229), he is currently, from the field-adjusted OPS side of things, 25% better than the average hitter from a production standpoint (which is very good. For comparison, future HoFer Altuve is at 126 OPS+ or 26% for his career.). He's also hitting .290 with RISP on the year. His struggles are against lefties and when he is on the road.
If he continues to play average to above-average defense and maintains that projection and production, it's really hard to complain too much. Yes, it's not as good as 2018 and 2019, but it's more along the lines of where he has been the rest of his career. Which is still quite good. Just not elite. He may just be one of those players like Bryant or Bellinger that peaked early. However, he is still an above-average solid all-around player.
For comparison, since 2019:
Bryant: 110 OPS+
Bellinger: 76 OPS+
Bregman: 117 OPS+
I still say most of his problems are simply mental. I don't think he trusts himself to be able to react on the fly if he gets more aggressive with pitches that aren't in a perfect spot. He takes a lot of pitches waiting for that perfect pitch that he can try and drive. He'll either work a walk or eventually be forced to swing at the pitcher's pitch rather than picking the pitch he really wants. This causes him to roll over it or pop it up out of semi-desperation.
The good news is that he has always been a considerably better player the 2nd half of the season. He averages about a .900 OPS over the final three months of the season compared to about an .830ish OPS the first three. So there's hope that good things are on the way.
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Post by Saint on May 23, 2022 10:07:49 GMT -6
Verlander is currently on pace for:
24-4 1.22 ERA (298 ERA+) 207 IP .72 WHIP
Tucker:
27 HR 100 RBI 36/40 SB 131 OPS+ 8.7 WAR
Pena:
27 HR 85 RBI 77 Runs 12/12 SB 149 OPS+ 8.7 WAR (27 HRs would be more in a season than Correa ever had with us, FYI.)
Pena and Tucker are tied for 4th in WAR currently at 2.2 Behind only Ward and Judge (2.3) and Trout (2.9). Altuve is currently at 1.5. The missed games set him back, otherwise he would likely be around 2-2.2 as well.
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Post by Saint on May 23, 2022 14:36:12 GMT -6
I just saw that if JV can get at least 100 more K this season, he will move into 13th all-time. Over the next several starts he should pass Scherzer (who is hurt), Sabathia, Schilling, and Gibson.
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Post by thomasj13 on May 23, 2022 15:20:13 GMT -6
I just saw that if JV can get at least 100 more K this season, he will move into 13th all-time. Over the next several starts he should pass Scherzer (who is hurt), Sabathia, Schilling, and Gibson. If he can actually continue pitching this way for the season, he is going to want more than 20 million next year....Crane might have to offer him a 2-year / 70 million deal. Or maybe 3 year/$100M. |
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Post by Saint on May 23, 2022 17:48:43 GMT -6
I just saw that if JV can get at least 100 more K this season, he will move into 13th all-time. Over the next several starts he should pass Scherzer (who is hurt), Sabathia, Schilling, and Gibson. If he can actually continue pitching this way for the season, he is going to want more than 20 million next year....Crane might have to offer him a 2-year / 70 million deal. Or maybe 3 year/$100M. Oh for sure. He'll turn down the option and go for another guaranteed 2 year deal at least. And who can blame him? |
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Post by bearbryant on May 23, 2022 17:50:15 GMT -6
So as frustrating as Bregman has been, from a purely analytical standpoint he's actually not doing that poorly overall. Yes, he is struggling currently, but he is on pace for:19 HR 89 RBI 81 Runs 100 BB 39 Doubles 125 OPS+ That means, despite the low batting average (.229), he is currently, from the field-adjusted OPS side of things, 25% better than the average hitter from a production standpoint (which is very good. For comparison, future HoFer Altuve is at 126 OPS+ or 26% for his career.). He's also hitting .290 with RISP on the year. His struggles are against lefties and when he is on the road. If he continues to play average to above-average defense and maintains that projection and production, it's really hard to complain too much. Yes, it's not as good as 2018 and 2019, but it's more along the lines of where he has been the rest of his career. Which is still quite good. Just not elite. He may just be one of those players like Bryant or Bellinger that peaked early. However, he is still an above-average solid all-around player. For comparison, since 2019:Bryant: 110 OPS+ Bellinger: 76 OPS+ Bregman: 117 OPS+ I still say most of his problems are simply mental. I don't think he trusts himself to be able to react on the fly if he gets more aggressive with pitches that aren't in a perfect spot. He takes a lot of pitches waiting for that perfect pitch that he can try and drive. He'll either work a walk or eventually be forced to swing at the pitcher's pitch rather than picking the pitch he really wants. This causes him to roll over it or pop it up out of semi-desperation. The good news is that he has always been a considerably better player the 2nd half of the season. He averages about a .900 OPS over the final three months of the season compared to about an .830ish OPS the first three. So there's hope that good things are on the way. |
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Post by unionstation82 on May 23, 2022 18:16:44 GMT -6
So as frustrating as Bregman has been, from a purely analytical standpoint he's actually not doing that poorly overall. Yes, he is struggling currently, but he is on pace for:19 HR 89 RBI 81 Runs 100 BB 39 Doubles 125 OPS+ That means, despite the low batting average (.229), he is currently, from the field-adjusted OPS side of things, 25% better than the average hitter from a production standpoint (which is very good. For comparison, future HoFer Altuve is at 126 OPS+ or 26% for his career.). He's also hitting .290 with RISP on the year. His struggles are against lefties and when he is on the road. If he continues to play average to above-average defense and maintains that projection and production, it's really hard to complain too much. Yes, it's not as good as 2018 and 2019, but it's more along the lines of where he has been the rest of his career. Which is still quite good. Just not elite. He may just be one of those players like Bryant or Bellinger that peaked early. However, he is still an above-average solid all-around player. For comparison, since 2019:Bryant: 110 OPS+ Bellinger: 76 OPS+ Bregman: 117 OPS+ I still say most of his problems are simply mental. I don't think he trusts himself to be able to react on the fly if he gets more aggressive with pitches that aren't in a perfect spot. He takes a lot of pitches waiting for that perfect pitch that he can try and drive. He'll either work a walk or eventually be forced to swing at the pitcher's pitch rather than picking the pitch he really wants. This causes him to roll over it or pop it up out of semi-desperation. The good news is that he has always been a considerably better player the 2nd half of the season. He averages about a .900 OPS over the final three months of the season compared to about an .830ish OPS the first three. So there's hope that good things are on the way. As much as people bitched about Correa, Bregman has proven to be as iffy or worse. |
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Post by bearbryant on May 23, 2022 18:20:24 GMT -6
I think he's playing hurt again. As much of a f***head kevinbass was, the point he brought up years ago wanting to trade Bregman if he'd be durable moved off his natural position turned out to be valid As much as people bitched about Correa, Bregman has proven to be as iffy or worse. |
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Post by thomasj13 on May 23, 2022 18:23:21 GMT -6
As much as people bitched about Correa, Bregman has proven to be as iffy or worse. Bregman is going to be fine. |
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Post by bearbryant on May 23, 2022 18:28:40 GMT -6
I don't think he has an injury. I just think that for all Yordan's potential issues, Bregman's the one taking the diamond each night with soreness in both legs Bregman is going to be fine. |
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Post by unionstation82 on May 23, 2022 19:20:07 GMT -6
Bregman is going to be fine. We’ve been waiting for three years. |
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Post by Saint on May 23, 2022 19:26:17 GMT -6
I'm holding out hope that he'll get super hot in a month or two.
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Post by Ashitaka on May 24, 2022 2:37:35 GMT -6
Bregman is not just "above replacement level." He's 30% above league average (replacement level is below league average) and is on-pace for nearly 5.0 WAR despite a .239 BAbip so far. And above-average defense. All that for barely more money than Brantley is making. Yet people can't stop complaining about him.
Part of me almost hopes he continues on the rest of the season exactly as he is now, so years later when we inevitably have some scrub at 3B I can go "hey, remember when we had Bregman posting 4-5 WAR seasons and ya'll couldn't stop hating on him? Good times!"
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Post by Saint on May 24, 2022 6:32:06 GMT -6
Bregman is not just "above replacement level." He's 30% above league average (replacement level is below league average) and is on-pace for nearly 5.0 WAR despite a .239 BAbip so far. And above-average defense. All that for barely more money than Brantley is making. Yet people can't stop complaining about him. Part of me almost hopes he continues on the rest of the season exactly as he is now, so years later when we inevitably have some scrub at 3B I can go "hey, remember when we had Bregman posting 4-5 WAR seasons and ya'll couldn't stop hating on him? Good times!" He's only had two seasons higher than a 4 WAR and they were three years ago. He's MAYBE on pace for a 4 WAR this season at his current rate. He's not doing close to as poorly as some would make it seem, but he also hasn't been as good as you make him sound since 2019 (when he should have been MVP). |
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Post by m240 on May 24, 2022 7:22:34 GMT -6
I have always liked Bregman. He is a very good, not great, player. If he plays like he has this year for the next six years then that is ok. We got our third baseman. Now having said that if he wants giant money to play like he has for the next deal he gets then I would have to say, see you, its been grand.
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Post by bearbryant on May 24, 2022 7:45:14 GMT -6
Bregman is not just "above replacement level." He's 30% above league average (replacement level is below league average) and is on-pace for nearly 5.0 WAR despite a .239 BAbip so far. And above-average defense. All that for barely more money than Brantley is making. Yet people can't stop complaining about him. Part of me almost hopes he continues on the rest of the season exactly as he is now, so years later when we inevitably have some scrub at 3B I can go "hey, remember when we had Bregman posting 4-5 WAR seasons and ya'll couldn't stop hating on him? Good times!"  |
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Post by thomasj13 on May 24, 2022 8:30:46 GMT -6
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