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Post by astrosdoug on May 23, 2018 15:13:21 GMT -6
Combined score of 15 to 3 over the two games.
Time to re-assess Astros' competitiveness against the Yankees here pretty soon.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 23, 2018 15:14:02 GMT -6
Another great job by Verlander and the pen did it's job.......big home run from George.......Main thing that I liked was the evidence that Carlos' head is coming out of his butt. Going back on the road so Jose can start hitting again. For some reason, he seems to try to pull every pitch when at home and ends up with weak ground balls. never seems to learn.
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Post by abregmanfan on May 23, 2018 15:17:19 GMT -6
Great game.
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Post by m240 on May 23, 2018 16:46:01 GMT -6
Another great job by Verlander and the pen did it's job.......big home run from George.......Main thing that I liked was the evidence that Carlos' head is coming out of his butt. Going back on the road so Jose can start hitting again. For some reason, he seems to try to pull every pitch when at home and ends up with weak ground balls. never seems to learn. I think it might be the attraction of the Crawford Boxes getting into his head. |
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Post by blcoach8 on May 23, 2018 17:07:29 GMT -6
Another great job by Verlander and the pen did it's job.......big home run from George.......Main thing that I liked was the evidence that Carlos' head is coming out of his butt. Going back on the road so Jose can start hitting again. For some reason, he seems to try to pull every pitch when at home and ends up with weak ground balls. never seems to learn. I think it might be the attraction of the Crawford Boxes getting into his head. I think you are right and have thought this for a long time. I can't come up with another explanation as to why he is so much better on the road. |
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Post by unionstation82 on May 23, 2018 17:22:26 GMT -6
Great series for the Astros, but this offense is still pretty bad. The pitching can’t carry them forever.
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Post by bearbryant on May 23, 2018 17:36:21 GMT -6
I'm not as concerned as I was earlier in the season. We're finding ways to win consistently now
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Post by bearbryant on May 23, 2018 17:40:27 GMT -6
Gattis is hitting .320/.357/.760 over the last 14 days. When your DH is hitting there's reason for optimism
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on May 23, 2018 17:50:29 GMT -6
Great series for the Astros, but this offense is still pretty bad. The pitching can’t carry them forever. Yeah, they only averaged 7-8 runs per game in this series. Losers. |
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Post by unionstation82 on May 23, 2018 23:56:18 GMT -6
Great series for the Astros, but this offense is still pretty bad. The pitching can’t carry them forever. Yeah, they only averaged 7-8 runs per game in this series. Losers. By pretty bad, I meant that they need to have more going on than just Springer, Bregman, and AAA callups. Altuve has been doing okay this series, but he needs to stay consistent with the hitting. Correa needs to come around as well. Marwin needs to stop looking like a fluke. Gurriel needs to hit more as well. |
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Post by unionstation82 on May 23, 2018 23:58:30 GMT -6
I'm not as concerned as I was earlier in the season. We're finding ways to win consistently now The biggest turnaround has been the bullpen holding leads. Giles has done incredibly well since the Sanchez homer. |
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Post by thomasj13 on May 24, 2018 4:05:06 GMT -6
I'm not as concerned as I was earlier in the season. We're finding ways to win consistently now The biggest turnaround has been the bullpen holding leads. Giles has done incredibly well since the Sanchez homer. Very true...but I still hope Luhnow is active at the trade deadline for top bullpen arms. |
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Post by Saint on May 24, 2018 7:12:20 GMT -6
The biggest turnaround has been the bullpen holding leads. Giles has done incredibly well since the Sanchez homer. Very true...but I still hope Luhnow is active at the trade deadline for top bullpen arms. Eh, within reason. I don't want to see us go all in on some overpaid closer rental. I'd rather a proven bat or even a starter that we could utilize in the rotation next year even if it meant using them as a partial reliever this year. |
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Post by astrosdoug on May 24, 2018 8:03:07 GMT -6
The biggest turnaround has been the bullpen holding leads. Giles has done incredibly well since the Sanchez homer. Very true...but I still hope Luhnow is active at the trade deadline for top bullpen arms. Kelvin Herrera still has a very nice 0.96 ERA |
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Post by thomasj13 on May 24, 2018 8:15:02 GMT -6
Very true...but I still hope Luhnow is active at the trade deadline for top bullpen arms. Eh, within reason. I don't want to see us go all in on some overpaid closer rental. I'd rather a proven bat or even a starter that we could utilize in the rotation next year even if it meant using them as a partial reliever this year. Yes, if the cost is not too high...because repeating this year is not a pipe dream....And to increase the likelihood, I would be for a better bullpen, as opposed to their only option last year: starters becoming closers. It is best to have options. |
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Post by thomasj13 on May 24, 2018 8:16:39 GMT -6
Very true...but I still hope Luhnow is active at the trade deadline for top bullpen arms. Kelvin Herrera still has a very nice 0.96 ERA We know Herrera will be on the market, and so should Britton....If the asking price is not too high, for these pending FAs, then I am for acquiring both... Of course a veteran bat would be nice as well (Abreu)...Come trade deadline it will be interesting to see what the asking prices are..... |
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Post by Saint on May 24, 2018 8:24:01 GMT -6
Eh, within reason. I don't want to see us go all in on some overpaid closer rental. I'd rather a proven bat or even a starter that we could utilize in the rotation next year even if it meant using them as a partial reliever this year. Yes, if the cost is not too high...because repeating this year is not a pipe dream....And to increase the likelihood, I would be for a better bullpen, as opposed to their only option last year: starters becoming closers. It is best to have options. Sure, but I think last postseason showed that our starters can certainly be shutdown relievers if needed. |
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Post by olpapa on May 24, 2018 8:46:58 GMT -6
Kelvin Herrera still has a very nice 0.96 ERA We know Herrera will be on the market, and so should Britton....If the asking price is not too high, for these pending FAs, then I am for acquiring both... Of course a veteran bat would be nice as well (Abreu)...Come trade deadline it will be interesting to see what the asking prices are..... As i’ve said before, the Astros have a lot of good prospects who are going to be eligible for the Rule 5 draft in December and there is no way they can protect them all, but we need to protect as many of them as possible. I look for Luhnow to try hard to deal some of our players who are on the 40-man roster, but are blocked, in order to free up roster spots for younger prospects. Wouldn’t be surprised to see any of Reed, Kemp, White, Fisher, Marisnick, JD Davis, Paulino and Martes traded this summer, along with some Rule 5 draft eligible prospects who are farther away from MLB, but not considered worthy of a 40-man roster spot at this time. KC and Baltimore both have weaker farm systems and would seem like good potential trade partners. ChiSox not so much. |
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Post by Saint on May 24, 2018 9:34:43 GMT -6
We know Herrera will be on the market, and so should Britton....If the asking price is not too high, for these pending FAs, then I am for acquiring both... Of course a veteran bat would be nice as well (Abreu)...Come trade deadline it will be interesting to see what the asking prices are..... As i’ve said before, the Astros have a lot of good prospects who are going to be eligible for the Rule 5 draft in December and there is no way they can protect them all, but we need to protect as many of them as possible. I look for Luhnow to try hard to deal some of our players who are on the 40-man roster, but are blocked, in order to free up roster spots for younger prospects. Wouldn’t be surprised to see any of Reed, Kemp, White, Fisher, Marisnick, JD Davis, Paulino and Martes traded this summer, along with some Rule 5 draft eligible prospects who are farther away from MLB, but not considered worthy of a 40-man roster spot at this time. KC and Baltimore both have weaker farm systems and would seem like good potential trade partners. ChiSox not so much. "Reed, Kemp, White, Fisher, Marisnick, JD Davis, Paulino and Martes" With the exception of Davis, I wouldn't be upset at all to see any of those guys go. And even Davis I wouldn't be that upset... |
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Post by unionstation82 on May 24, 2018 9:49:51 GMT -6
Oh, how far Martes has fallen...
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Post by olpapa on May 24, 2018 12:08:03 GMT -6
As i’ve said before, the Astros have a lot of good prospects who are going to be eligible for the Rule 5 draft in December and there is no way they can protect them all, but we need to protect as many of them as possible. I look for Luhnow to try hard to deal some of our players who are on the 40-man roster, but are blocked, in order to free up roster spots for younger prospects. Wouldn’t be surprised to see any of Reed, Kemp, White, Fisher, Marisnick, JD Davis, Paulino and Martes traded this summer, along with some Rule 5 draft eligible prospects who are farther away from MLB, but not considered worthy of a 40-man roster spot at this time. KC and Baltimore both have weaker farm systems and would seem like good potential trade partners. ChiSox not so much. "Reed, Kemp, White, Fisher, Marisnick, JD Davis, Paulino and Martes" With the exception of Davis, I wouldn't be upset at all to see any of those guys go. And even Davis I wouldn't be that upset... I am a bit surprised that the team has not given Davis a little playing time at SS and 2B in Fresno in order to prepare him as another option to replace Marwin in the future. If White can handle it, I’ve gotta believe Davis can too. He has played 1B, 3B, LF and RF in the minors. One good thing about having Davis around is his ability to pitch if needed. The guy was a decent relief pitcher in college and actually looked pretty good in the 2 appearances he made on the mound in mlb...1.2 IP, 0 ER, 1 BB, 3 K. Having him on the roster would allow the team to go with 12 pitchers and 13 position players and still have an arm to go to in a pinch. |
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Post by Saint on May 24, 2018 12:26:18 GMT -6
"Reed, Kemp, White, Fisher, Marisnick, JD Davis, Paulino and Martes" With the exception of Davis, I wouldn't be upset at all to see any of those guys go. And even Davis I wouldn't be that upset... I am a bit surprised that the team has not given Davis a little playing time at SS and 2B in Fresno in order to prepare him as another option to replace Marwin in the future. If White can handle it, I’ve gotta believe Davis can too. He has played 1B, 3B, LF and RF in the minors. One good thing about having Davis around is his ability to pitch if needed. The guy was a decent relief pitcher in college and actually looked pretty good in the 2 appearances he made on the mound in mlb...1.2 IP, 0 ER, 1 BB, 3 K. Having him on the roster would allow the team to go with 12 pitchers and 13 position players and still have an arm to go to in a pinch. I'm on board with that. |
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Post by sempersmom on May 24, 2018 12:49:28 GMT -6
Great series for the Astros, but this offense is still pretty bad. The pitching can’t carry them forever. Weren't you complaining about the opposite thing last season? If it wasn't you, I remember someone saying the pitching has to pick it up because there's no way the hitting can continue. |
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Post by bearbryant on May 24, 2018 14:17:53 GMT -6
Yes, if the cost is not too high...because repeating this year is not a pipe dream....And to increase the likelihood, I would be for a better bullpen, as opposed to their only option last year: starters becoming closers. It is best to have options. Sure, but I think last postseason showed that our starters can certainly be shutdown relievers if needed. |
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Post by astrosdoug on May 24, 2018 14:26:18 GMT -6
Astros bullpen now leads the AL in ERA at 2.76. That is with a very sustainable BABIP against of .288, so it's not easy to simply write off the bullpen's performance as good luck.
One probably wouldn't think it, but the Astros bullpen leader in FIP is now Will Harris.
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Post by unionstation82 on May 24, 2018 14:38:03 GMT -6
Great series for the Astros, but this offense is still pretty bad. The pitching can’t carry them forever. Weren't you complaining about the opposite thing last season? If it wasn't you, I remember someone saying the pitching has to pick it up because there's no way the hitting can continue. I think that was Ghick. We always argued about that stuff. |
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Post by astrosdoug on May 24, 2018 14:38:55 GMT -6
The Astros offense is now 3rd in the AL by wRC+, at 105. The Yankees are nearing 2017 Astros territory with wRC+ of 120. But of course they just don't have the starting pitching to go with that offense, which will be a big problem for them later in the season.
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Post by blcoach8 on May 24, 2018 14:38:56 GMT -6
Heard a discussion on talk radio today about what the Astros may add before the deadline. Popular idea was adding an arm for the pen. For some reason, they don't think we need to add a bat. I think we could add both.
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Post by bearbryant on May 24, 2018 14:43:04 GMT -6
Weren't you complaining about the opposite thing last season? If it wasn't you, I remember someone saying the pitching has to pick it up because there's no way the hitting can continue. I think that was Ghick. We always argued about that stuff. |
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Post by unionstation82 on May 24, 2018 14:44:50 GMT -6
Are you sure? I complain about hitting way more than pitching, save Harris and Giles.
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