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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 21, 2022 5:55:00 GMT -6
That sounds too good to be true though. We could go a little more, maybe including Leon or Perez instead of Matijevic or McDermott, but I think people might be de-valuing Urquidy a bit. He's a solid #3 on a lot of teams and has three years of control left after this season. Meanwhile the three we'd be getting all have question marks or dings against them in various ways. I think it's in the ballpark, at least. In other news Diamondbacks DFA'D Keuchel. www.nbcsportsedge.com/baseball/mlb/player/19696/dallas-keuchel |
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Post by Saint on Jul 21, 2022 7:41:47 GMT -6
That sounds too good to be true though. Am I missing something on Walker and Peralta? They're veteran proven above-average hitters that play positions where we are weak. They aren't all-stars, but Walker is on pace for 35+ HRs and a 120 OPS+ this year, and Peralta is a solid contact guy with a 110 OPS+ this season. Peralta is just a rental to add to our OF depth, but Walker we would have for a couple more seasons. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 21, 2022 9:19:18 GMT -6
Am I missing something on Walker and Peralta? They're veteran proven above-average hitters that play positions where we are weak. They aren't all-stars, but Walker is on pace for 35+ HRs and a 120 OPS+ this year, and Peralta is a solid contact guy with a 110 OPS+ this season. Peralta is just a rental to add to our OF depth, but Walker we would have for a couple more seasons. The power is nice but the averages suck. They’ll only help if they actually get on base. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 21, 2022 9:50:03 GMT -6
They're veteran proven above-average hitters that play positions where we are weak. They aren't all-stars, but Walker is on pace for 35+ HRs and a 120 OPS+ this year, and Peralta is a solid contact guy with a 110 OPS+ this season. Peralta is just a rental to add to our OF depth, but Walker we would have for a couple more seasons. The power is nice but the averages suck. They’ll only help if they actually get on base. Peralta is having a down year AVG/OBP-wise. I think a trade could revitalize him. Even with a down year, is numbers are better than all of our OFers other than Tucker and Yordan. Walker is basically Chris Carter but he also plays good defense. Since becoming an everyday player in 2019 he has had a .331 OBP. Not amazing, but not horrible. He has considerably higher production than we're getting from Yuli, and he would cover 1B for two more years where we have nobody in the farm system. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 21, 2022 9:53:11 GMT -6
The power is nice but the averages suck. They’ll only help if they actually get on base. Peralta is having a down year AVG/OBP-wise. I think a trade could revitalize him. Even with a down year, is numbers are better than all of our OFers other than Tucker and Yordan. Walker is basically Chris Carter but he also plays good defense. Since becoming an everyday player in 2019 he has had a .331 OBP. Not amazing, but not horrible. He has considerably higher production than we're getting from Yuli, and he would cover 1B for two more years where we have nobody in the farm system. Mantiply also has a lot of control. AZ is probably looking to rob someone for him. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 21, 2022 10:35:33 GMT -6
Peralta is having a down year AVG/OBP-wise. I think a trade could revitalize him. Even with a down year, is numbers are better than all of our OFers other than Tucker and Yordan. Walker is basically Chris Carter but he also plays good defense. Since becoming an everyday player in 2019 he has had a .331 OBP. Not amazing, but not horrible. He has considerably higher production than we're getting from Yuli, and he would cover 1B for two more years where we have nobody in the farm system. Mantiply also has a lot of control. AZ is probably looking to rob someone for him. I'm not sold on Mantiply, but those three guys together are probably cheaper to get than just Soto. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 21, 2022 10:46:38 GMT -6
Mantiply also has a lot of control. AZ is probably looking to rob someone for him. I'm not sold on Mantiply, but those three guys together are probably cheaper to get than just Soto. Yeah, multiple players are better than just Soto. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Jul 22, 2022 0:36:46 GMT -6
I wonder if it will be a slow deadline season until right at the deadline. Lot's of teams still in it with the new (dumb) Wild Card teams. Probably only about a third of the teams figure to be sellers. Could see high prices and the selling teams holding out for top offers until very near the deadline. Not to mention Soto now being available will likely slow things down some more, too.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 22, 2022 6:19:22 GMT -6
I wonder if it will be a slow deadline season until right at the deadline. Lot's of teams still in it with the new (dumb) Wild Card teams. Probably only about a third of the teams figure to be sellers. Could see high prices and the selling teams holding out for top offers until very near the deadline. Not to mention Soto now being available will likely slow things down some more, too. Are you of the thinking that too many wild cards is too many honorable mention awards? |
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Post by Saint on Jul 22, 2022 8:25:49 GMT -6
I don't have a problem with the extra WC games. But I'm still of the opinion that divisions shouldn't matter. Just take the top teams in each league.
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Post by Ashitaka on Jul 22, 2022 13:01:29 GMT -6
I wonder if it will be a slow deadline season until right at the deadline. Lot's of teams still in it with the new (dumb) Wild Card teams. Probably only about a third of the teams figure to be sellers. Could see high prices and the selling teams holding out for top offers until very near the deadline. Not to mention Soto now being available will likely slow things down some more, too. Are you of the thinking that too many wild cards is too many honorable mention awards? Basically. The more teams you let into the playoffs, the less the regular season matters. Baseball has a lot more randomness than football and basketball, so the more opportunities for a club who plays around .500 during the 162 game season to get hot for a few weeks and upset a 100 win team, the more of a farce baseball becomes IMO. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 22, 2022 14:35:25 GMT -6
Are you of the thinking that too many wild cards is too many honorable mention awards? Basically. The more teams you let into the playoffs, the less the regular season matters. Baseball has a lot more randomness than football and basketball, so the more opportunities for a club who plays around .500 during the 162 game season to get hot for a few weeks and upset a 100 win team, the more of a farce baseball becomes IMO. To me the Nfl playoffs is a joke. A 7-9 division winner making the playoffs.... |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 22, 2022 15:03:11 GMT -6
Basically. The more teams you let into the playoffs, the less the regular season matters. Baseball has a lot more randomness than football and basketball, so the more opportunities for a club who plays around .500 during the 162 game season to get hot for a few weeks and upset a 100 win team, the more of a farce baseball becomes IMO. To me the Nfl playoffs is a joke. A 7-9 division winner making the playoffs.... Same in the NBA, a losing record could still be 7th or 8th seed for their conference, and make the playoffs |
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Post by Saint on Jul 22, 2022 15:56:33 GMT -6
If you're a great team and you can't beat one of the wild card teams in a multi-game series, maybe you weren't that great of a team.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 22, 2022 16:14:30 GMT -6
To me the Nfl playoffs is a joke. A 7-9 division winner making the playoffs.... Same in the NBA, a losing record could still be 7th or 8th seed for their conference, and make the playoffs It's all about the money. Before long everybody will get a trophy. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 22, 2022 16:28:19 GMT -6
If you're a great team and you can't beat one of the wild card teams in a multi-game series, maybe you weren't that great of a team. But why reward a shitty team with a postseason berth? |
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Post by Saint on Jul 22, 2022 16:32:47 GMT -6
If you're a great team and you can't beat one of the wild card teams in a multi-game series, maybe you weren't that great of a team. But why reward a shitty team with a postseason berth? Why can't a great team beat a shitty team in a multi-game series? To me, if it gets fans more interested in their teams, and leads to more owners spending money with the hope of being competitive, great. I think what we should really be asking is do we need a 162-game season? Twice as long as any other sport. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 22, 2022 16:48:32 GMT -6
But why reward a shitty team with a postseason berth? Why can't a great team beat a shitty team in a multi-game series? To me, if it gets fans more interested in their teams, and leads to more owners spending money with the hope of being competitive, great. I think what we should really be asking is do we need a 162-game season? Twice as long as any other sport. Shitty teams making it kind of defeats the purpose of dominating a long and arduous season. Like the other guy said about the NFL, there are 7-9 record teams that can make it to the playoffs. In the NBA, it’s worse. |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 22, 2022 16:58:19 GMT -6
Are you of the thinking that too many wild cards is too many honorable mention awards? Basically. The more teams you let into the playoffs, the less the regular season matters. Baseball has a lot more randomness than football and basketball, so the more opportunities for a club who plays around .500 during the 162 game season to get hot for a few weeks and upset a 100 win team, the more of a farce baseball becomes IMO. I agree with your opinion on this. That said, I think the regular season should have been reduced back to 154 games. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 22, 2022 18:55:23 GMT -6
Why can't a great team beat a shitty team in a multi-game series? To me, if it gets fans more interested in their teams, and leads to more owners spending money with the hope of being competitive, great. I think what we should really be asking is do we need a 162-game season? Twice as long as any other sport. Shitty teams making it kind of defeats the purpose of dominating a long and arduous season. Like the other guy said about the NFL, there are 7-9 record teams that can make it to the playoffs. In the NBA, it’s worse. Has a 7-9 team made it to the super bowl? |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 22, 2022 18:58:49 GMT -6
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 22, 2022 19:38:16 GMT -6
Are you trying to say, there goes the clubhouse. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 22, 2022 19:46:36 GMT -6
Uh oh, what are you suggesting? |
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Post by Ashitaka on Jul 22, 2022 19:58:13 GMT -6
If you're a great team and you can't beat one of the wild card teams in a multi-game series, maybe you weren't that great of a team. Again though, baseball has a lot of randomness. Dodgers were better than us in 2017, we were better than the Nats and Braves in 19 and 21. A great team can drop 4 of 7 games to a lesser team, or even a scrub team, at any time. Doesn't mean they weren't actually a great team. You don't see upsets frequently in the NFL and NBA like you do in MLB. |
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Post by Ashitaka on Jul 22, 2022 19:59:30 GMT -6
Uh oh, what are you suggesting? Everyone loves Yuli, and our best player is his fellow countryman. Could be a problem. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 22, 2022 20:09:58 GMT -6
Uh oh, what are you suggesting? Everyone loves Yuli, and our best player is his fellow countryman. Could be a problem. Life’s tough. Adjust. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 22, 2022 20:22:02 GMT -6
If you're a great team and you can't beat one of the wild card teams in a multi-game series, maybe you weren't that great of a team. Again though, baseball has a lot of randomness. Dodgers were better than us in 2017, we were better than the Nats and Braves in 19 and 21. A great team can drop 4 of 7 games to a lesser team, or even a scrub team, at any time. Doesn't mean they weren't actually a great team. You don't see upsets frequently in the NFL and NBA like you do in MLB. I wouldn't call those upsets. Yes, some of it is luck and getting hot at the right time, but it's not like you're going to see a .500 team win the WS. |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 22, 2022 20:28:29 GMT -6
Uh oh, what are you suggesting? Everyone loves Yuli, and our best player is his fellow countryman. Could be a problem. Precisely. I would think Click would want to run the idea of this trade past this by Altuve first and get Jose’s take on how it would impact team chemistry. I would think Click would want to talk to Yuli first and get him on board as well. Maybe he already has? |
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Post by Ashitaka on Jul 22, 2022 21:22:10 GMT -6
Again though, baseball has a lot of randomness. Dodgers were better than us in 2017, we were better than the Nats and Braves in 19 and 21. A great team can drop 4 of 7 games to a lesser team, or even a scrub team, at any time. Doesn't mean they weren't actually a great team. You don't see upsets frequently in the NFL and NBA like you do in MLB. I wouldn't call those upsets. Yes, some of it is luck and getting hot at the right time, but it's not like you're going to see a .500 team win the WS. You sure about that? I remember the Cardinals being barely over .500 and winning it all in 2006. Only a matter of time before it happens now that they're letting more teams in. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 22, 2022 21:25:13 GMT -6
Last year's WS champ was under .500 until late summer. The season should be reduced to 144 games if they're going to insist on this bracket crap
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