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Post by Saint on May 25, 2018 8:23:52 GMT -6
Keuchel vs. Kluber
33-18. Currently 3 games ahead of Seattle for the division and 1.5 games behind Boston for the best overall record. 1st in run differential at +116.
Top-5 WAR players:
1. Verlander 3.1
2. Cole 2.2
3. Correa 2.1
4. Springer 1.9
5. Altuve 1.7
Kluber has been as dominant as any of our guys at home. This will be tough if Keuchel isn't at the top of his game. Hopefully Davis and Kemp are in the lineup. Game plan needs to be to try and work deep counts and get Kluber out of the game with the score close. Be ready to play small ball. Lay down some bunts, move runners, stay out of GIDPs.
One of these days I'll predict a huge day for Altuve and he'll come through, but I don't think today is the day. I think Kluber is going to tear his ass up. Hopefully Bregman, Kemp, and Springer stay hot.
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Post by sempersmom on May 25, 2018 9:14:00 GMT -6
Enough already with the Altuve hate. That guy gives his all day in and day out. His bat will come around.
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Post by paastrosfan on May 25, 2018 9:24:21 GMT -6
The key to getting to Kluber is if his breaking ball isn't there. When he has it and painting the corners it could be a long night.
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Post by Saint on May 25, 2018 10:26:44 GMT -6
Enough already with the Altuve hate. That guy gives his all day in and day out. His bat will come around. I think I've made it pretty clear that I like Altuve, and nobody has questioned his drive or his hustle that I'm aware of. What I said wasn't meant negatively. Just a point that he isn't hitting real well and Kluber is excellent. That combination doesn't bode well for a good day for Altuve. I hope I'm wrong though. |
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Post by Saint on May 25, 2018 10:30:53 GMT -6
Enough already with the Altuve hate. That guy gives his all day in and day out. His bat will come around. And just out of curiosity, Altuve gets a pretty small amount of "hate" compared to a lot of our players. Where is your defense of those guys? :-P |
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Post by unionstation82 on May 25, 2018 10:59:06 GMT -6
Enough already with the Altuve hate. That guy gives his all day in and day out. His bat will come around. When you win an MVP, you get MVP expectations. Besides, Altuve barely gets any hate compared to Marisnick, Gattis, etc. |
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Post by blcoach8 on May 25, 2018 11:14:14 GMT -6
Enough already with the Altuve hate. That guy gives his all day in and day out. His bat will come around. Pointing out his mistakes does not qualify as "Altuve hate". He needs to wake up and see that he is getting himself out. Right now, he is not doing smart things the plate. We are winning in spite of his lack of production. If it is a repeat of last week, Kluber will make Altuve look foolish when he starts swinging at sliders a foot outside and in the dirt. Time for Jose to pull his head out of his rectum |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on May 25, 2018 11:18:00 GMT -6
Enough already with the Altuve hate. That guy gives his all day in and day out. His bat will come around. For real. They beat on Altuve like he's their wife, while whining about how meanies are picking on losers like Jake Marisnick |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on May 25, 2018 11:19:58 GMT -6
Enough already with the Altuve hate. That guy gives his all day in and day out. His bat will come around. When you win an MVP, you get MVP expectations. Besides, Altuve barely gets any hate compared to Marisnick, Gattis, etc. That because, even in his worst slump, Jose is still performing 1000% better than either of those talentless hacks ever have or ever will. |
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Post by unionstation82 on May 25, 2018 11:43:29 GMT -6
When you win an MVP, you get MVP expectations. Besides, Altuve barely gets any hate compared to Marisnick, Gattis, etc. That because, even in his worst slump, Jose is still performing 1000% better than either of those talentless hacks ever have or ever will. I didn’t see Altuve hitting a bomb to center field yesterday. Marisnick for president! |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on May 25, 2018 11:58:30 GMT -6
There's enough question about you having extra chromosomes...dont provide any more evidence, son.
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Post by bearbryant on May 25, 2018 12:28:32 GMT -6
haters gonna hate
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Post by sempersmom on May 25, 2018 13:07:21 GMT -6
There's enough question about you having extra chromosomes...dont provide any more evidence, son. Too funny! |
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Post by sempersmom on May 25, 2018 13:08:28 GMT -6
Enough already with the Altuve hate. That guy gives his all day in and day out. His bat will come around. And just out of curiosity, Altuve gets a pretty small amount of "hate" compared to a lot of our players. Where is your defense of those guys? :-P They're not Altuve. None of those guys have any accomplishments even near what he's done. |
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Post by blcoach8 on May 25, 2018 13:12:29 GMT -6
haters gonna hate He should wait to do his little dance until he starts performing up to his standards. I realize some here think he can do no wrong, but, he's human like the rest of us. Right now, he is in a rut of his own making. He is still the guy who leads the team and is a great player that we are lucky to have for the next several years. I doubt if he's one of the guys who sign a big contract and then start dragging his ass.......that would be Richard Hidalgo and Jose is not a slacker. |
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Post by Saint on May 25, 2018 13:14:43 GMT -6
And just out of curiosity, Altuve gets a pretty small amount of "hate" compared to a lot of our players. Where is your defense of those guys? :-P They're not Altuve. None of those guys have any accomplishments even near what he's done. Oh. So the more likable players don't deserve us voicing any concern. Got it!  |
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Post by Saint on May 25, 2018 13:17:08 GMT -6
Enough already with the Altuve hate. That guy gives his all day in and day out. His bat will come around. For real. They beat on Altuve like he's their wife, while whining about how meanies are picking on losers like Jake Marisnick But nobody is saying they want Altuve gone or demoted. There is a difference between voicing concerns or pondering the mediocre results, and wanting a player gone. We just want Altuve back to being Altuve (especially since a significant financial investment was made in him to be the core of our team). |
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Post by Saint on May 25, 2018 13:27:29 GMT -6
I look at it as all players deserve to be discussed. That's the reason we have a message board. Discuss the positives AND the negatives.
People seem to be too willing to support their favorites and badmouth the role players and/or coaches. It's a team effort and all strengths and weaknesses play a part. Not liking a player is fine, but they deserve credit when they're successful. Liking a player is fine, but their faults deserve mention as well.
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Post by unionstation82 on May 25, 2018 13:36:52 GMT -6
I look at it as all players deserve to be discussed. That's the reason we have a message board. Discuss the positives AND the negatives. People seem to be too willing to support their favorites and badmouth the role players and/or coaches. It's a team effort and all strengths and weaknesses play a part. Not liking a player is fine, but they deserve credit when they're successful. Liking a player is fine, but their faults deserve mention as well. ***** Yes. |
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Post by blcoach8 on May 25, 2018 13:37:44 GMT -6
No player is perfect. We all have an opinion and should be free to post it. I am a big Altuve fan, but I also see when he is looking bad and right now, he stinks at the plate. He will turn it around.
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Post by unionstation82 on May 25, 2018 13:38:30 GMT -6
There's enough question about you having extra chromosomes...dont provide any more evidence, son. What do you have against mutants? |
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Post by bearbryant on May 25, 2018 13:39:35 GMT -6
That because, even in his worst slump, Jose is still performing 1000% better than either of those talentless hacks ever have or ever will. I didn’t see Altuve hitting a bomb to center field yesterday. Marisnick for president!
AJ: Jake, don't hurt Altuve
Jake: What if he hurts me?
AJ: I can replace you. I can't replace Altuve
sports.yahoo.com/news/jose-altuves-playstation-skills-makes-mlbs-shortest-man-an-mvp-threat-192827167.htmlsick burn notwithstanding |
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Post by unionstation82 on May 25, 2018 13:41:27 GMT -6
It’s funny because it’s true.
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Post by Saint on May 25, 2018 13:51:22 GMT -6
Springer RF
Bregman 3B
Altuve 2B
Correa SS
Gonzalez LF
Gurriel 1B
Gattis DH
Stassi C
Kemp CF
Gattis over Davis (who has a .406 OBP this year and has been better against righties than lefties in his brief career)...
Marwin and Springer have had a lot of success against Kluber on the plus side. However Altuve, Bregman, Gattis, Kemp, and Gurriel have not done well against him....
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Post by Saint on May 25, 2018 13:54:04 GMT -6
On the Indians side:
Lindor SS
Brantley LF
Ramirez 3B
Encarnacion 1B
Cabrera DH
Gomes C
Kipnis 2B
Davis CF
Allen RF
Only Ramirez, Gomes, and Cabrera have had a lot of success against Keuchel. Brantley, Edwin, and Kipnis have been pretty poor.
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Post by sempersmom on May 25, 2018 14:22:15 GMT -6
I tell people this story all the time. Love it! |
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Post by sempersmom on May 25, 2018 14:22:51 GMT -6
They're not Altuve. None of those guys have any accomplishments even near what he's done. Oh. So the more likable players don't deserve us voicing any concern. Got it! I'm glad you understand now. |
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Post by astrosdoug on May 25, 2018 14:34:51 GMT -6
Springer RF Bregman 3B Altuve 2B Correa SS Gonzalez LF Gurriel 1B Gattis DH Stassi C Kemp CF Gattis over Davis (who has a .406 OBP this year and has been better against righties than lefties in his brief career)... Marwin and Springer have had a lot of success against Kluber on the plus side. However Altuve, Bregman, Gattis, Kemp, and Gurriel have not done well against him.... Honestly, I'd let Gattis catch today and Davis DH. I don't think Stassi can hit Kluber. |
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Post by blcoach8 on May 25, 2018 14:41:40 GMT -6
Springer RF Bregman 3B Altuve 2B Correa SS Gonzalez LF Gurriel 1B Gattis DH Stassi C Kemp CF Gattis over Davis (who has a .406 OBP this year and has been better against righties than lefties in his brief career)... Marwin and Springer have had a lot of success against Kluber on the plus side. However Altuve, Bregman, Gattis, Kemp, and Gurriel have not done well against him.... If this is our lineup for today, I have to wonder why Stassi is in the lineup against a tough right-hander like Kluber. Kluber wil strike him out every time he comes to the plate. Did I miss something? Is McCann injured? If not, I can't understand why Stassi is in the lineup |
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Post by astrosdoug on May 25, 2018 15:11:25 GMT -6
Springer RF Bregman 3B Altuve 2B Correa SS Gonzalez LF Gurriel 1B Gattis DH Stassi C Kemp CF Gattis over Davis (who has a .406 OBP this year and has been better against righties than lefties in his brief career)... Marwin and Springer have had a lot of success against Kluber on the plus side. However Altuve, Bregman, Gattis, Kemp, and Gurriel have not done well against him.... If this is our lineup for today, I have to wonder why Stassi is in the lineup against a tough right-hander like Kluber. Kluber wil strike him out every time he comes to the plate. Did I miss something? Is McCann injured? If not, I can't understand why Stassi is in the lineup i think it simply comes down to Hinch's clipboard saying McCann is due for a day off and Gattis is not in consideration to catch. I can't say I really like Hinch's clipboard though. Astros best strategy might be to take a lot of pitches in the early innings and try to wear Kluber down. If they can hold Kluber to 6 innings and score 2 runs off him in that time, they have a good chance to add two more against the bullpen for a total of 4 runs. Keuchel has a decent shot at getting a quality start (as he's done in 6 of his 10 starts so far this year) and if he does that, the Astros have a fighting chance. |
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