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Post by bearbryant on Jan 10, 2023 11:23:42 GMT -6
I remember when I was a kid, the Colts won the last game of the regular season and forfeited the #1 pick to New England. Everyone said at the time they effed up, but it didn't matter cause they would've drafted Art Schlichter anyway. I don't think the Bears are in the market for Bryce Young even if we are
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 10, 2023 12:51:05 GMT -6
I remember when I was a kid, the Colts won the last game of the regular season and forfeited the #1 pick to New England. Everyone said at the time they effed up, but it didn't matter cause they would've drafted Art Schlichter anyway. I don't think the Bears are in the market for Bryce Young even if we are
But they’ll give the pick to a team who wants him. That’s the leverage they gained from Texans idiocy. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 10, 2023 12:51:35 GMT -6
I remember when I was a kid, the Colts won the last game of the regular season and forfeited the #1 pick to New England. Everyone said at the time they effed up, but it didn't matter cause they would've drafted Art Schlichter anyway. I don't think the Bears are in the market for Bryce Young even if we are
The concern I've seen mentioned from some fans are that now the Bears will trade their pick to a team like the Colts who will get Young and then we'll be playing against him for the next decade. I don't know a lot about football, but, to me, having the Colts give up a ton of draft picks sounds like a good thing. And even if we went after Stroud instead of Young we're still likely getting a very good young QB. I just don't see it as much of an issue. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 10, 2023 13:04:33 GMT -6
I remember when I was a kid, the Colts won the last game of the regular season and forfeited the #1 pick to New England. Everyone said at the time they effed up, but it didn't matter cause they would've drafted Art Schlichter anyway. I don't think the Bears are in the market for Bryce Young even if we are
But they’ll give the pick to a team who wants him. That’s the leverage they gained from Texans idiocy. The idiot part is wanting Bryce when we have more crucial needs and options. We should give the #2 to a team that wants it |
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Post by Saint on Jan 10, 2023 13:19:15 GMT -6
But they’ll give the pick to a team who wants him. That’s the leverage they gained from Texans idiocy. The idiot part is wanting Bryce when we have more crucial needs and options. We should give the #2 to a team that wants it What do you view as being more crucial for the Texans right now? |
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 10, 2023 13:25:23 GMT -6
The idiot part is wanting Bryce when we have more crucial needs and options. We should give the #2 to a team that wants it What do you view as being more crucial for the Texans right now? LBs and DLs. Texans remind me of the Oilers after they went 1-8 in 1982. Instead of using the #2 to draft near-hometown favorite Eric Dickerson, they traded down and drafted Bruce Matthews with the #9. That's the approach whoever's in charge should be taking if you ask me |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 10, 2023 13:29:25 GMT -6
But they’ll give the pick to a team who wants him. That’s the leverage they gained from Texans idiocy. The idiot part is wanting Bryce when we have more crucial needs and options. We should give the #2 to a team that wants it They’ve never done that before and if they wanted to do that, losing and getting the first pick was still the better call. Trading the pick isn’t the worst idea, though. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 10, 2023 13:31:40 GMT -6
What do you view as being more crucial for the Texans right now? LBs and DLs. Texans remind me of the Oilers after they went 1-8 in 1982. Instead of using the #2 to draft near-hometown favorite Eric Dickerson, they traded down and drafted Bruce Matthews with the #9. That's the approach whoever's in charge should be taking if you ask me I don't know as much about football (nor am I as emotionally invested), but, while I don't think they need to necessarily use their top pick on a QB, I do think it's time they drafted somebody in the 1st round or two that they'll actually commit to developing and building around some (coaching staff AND players). Then, if that QB doesn't work out, at least they've got some sort of framework in place for a decent team and they can look at free agents or other options. For example, I've been told that the Georgia QB (despite having a great numbers and winning the last two championships) is not a high draft pick because of his size. Yet, he has all the talent and athleticism to be a good QB. I'd be willing to get him in the 2nd or 3rd round (again, I don't know have a huge knowledge bank on college players) and get other needed positions with the higher picks, I'd be totally in favor of that. But then, don't QB jump around the next couple years. Roll with that QB and see if they can't get some consistency. This complete lack of consistency in players, coaching, etc. is frustrating. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 10, 2023 16:08:34 GMT -6
Bro, should we be free agent fans? What team is offering competitive deals? Won't be the Cowboys..... 49ers seem pretty cool right now cuz they have Mr irrelevant at quarterback and he's actually doing pretty well. And they have CMC now and I like him a lot. It should be the Cowboys. The Cowboys are going to end the career of Tomas Brady Monday night. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 10, 2023 16:13:46 GMT -6
Won't be the Cowboys..... 49ers seem pretty cool right now cuz they have Mr irrelevant at quarterback and he's actually doing pretty well. And they have CMC now and I like him a lot. It should be the Cowboys. The Cowboys are going to end the career of Tomas Brady Monday night. I don't know...the Cowboys have looked very inconsistent lately. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 10, 2023 17:37:45 GMT -6
It should be the Cowboys. The Cowboys are going to end the career of Tomas Brady Monday night. I don't know...the Cowboys have looked very inconsistent lately. Their defense will overpower Tampa. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 10, 2023 18:04:16 GMT -6
I don't know...the Cowboys have looked very inconsistent lately. Their defense will overpower Tampa. I won't count Brady out of the postseason until he retires. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 10, 2023 18:53:13 GMT -6
Their defense will overpower Tampa. I won't count Brady out of the postseason until he retires. The Cowboys are going to avenge TCU! |
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Post by inaltuvewetrust on Jan 11, 2023 11:00:13 GMT -6
I am torn because this team overall top to bottom needs a lot of help. I am not sure if we should address other areas with the 2 pick or just get a QB and hope Young or Stroud can be a star. I lean QB because you need a stud QB to win.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 11, 2023 11:34:26 GMT -6
I am torn because this team overall top to bottom needs a lot of help. I am not sure if we should address other areas with the 2 pick or just get a QB and hope Young or Stroud can be a star. I lean QB because you need a stud QB to win. If the offensive line is Tunsil & Friends, what good would a young QB be for the Texans anyway? |
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Post by inaltuvewetrust on Jan 11, 2023 12:39:08 GMT -6
I am torn because this team overall top to bottom needs a lot of help. I am not sure if we should address other areas with the 2 pick or just get a QB and hope Young or Stroud can be a star. I lean QB because you need a stud QB to win. If the offensive line is Tunsil & Friends, what good would a young QB be for the Texans anyway? Might as well take the QB. Otherwise, Nick 'Bug Eyes' Caserio and crew will not pick the best Defensive or OLine prospect. They always seem to skip the sure-fire pick for someone who could be got later in the round or the next round who is injury prone. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 11, 2023 12:55:10 GMT -6
I am torn because this team overall top to bottom needs a lot of help. I am not sure if we should address other areas with the 2 pick or just get a QB and hope Young or Stroud can be a star. I lean QB because you need a stud QB to win. I hope they go Bryce Young with their first pick, and maybe an OT with their second pick in their first round. If some team is willing to give out great draft compensation for Tunsil, I would be inclined to trading him. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 11, 2023 13:46:54 GMT -6
I don't pay enough attention to mock drafts and all that. Is there a possibility (or is it even feasible) that we could use our second 1st round pick to draft a QB not named Bryce Young, and trade our #2 pick for more picks later?
It seems to me we have a QB hole for sure, but also need so much more. Right now we get two 1st round picks this year (plus an extra 3rd round), and then two 1st round picks in 2024, right? So what if we traded our #2 pick this year, for maybe an additional 2025 and 2026 first rounder (plus maybe some more)?
Essentially giving us multiple 1st round picks 2024-2026 since we'll likely still stink next year no matter what we do. Gives us a year to work with a new rookie QB and semi-tanking/rebuilding for another high pick in 2024, and then as we start to build up, we have a few years of adding plenty of good young talent around that QB with multiple 1st round editions.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 11, 2023 13:55:41 GMT -6
I think we can assume the Texans didn’t care enough about the QB’s in the draft to lose that last football game. Otherwise, they would’ve benched Mills and Cooks and played Todd and me. May as well trade down to a team that’s a lot more polished than us and needing a QB like Stroud or Young.
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Post by Saint on Jan 11, 2023 14:08:05 GMT -6
I think we can assume the Texans didn’t care enough about the QB’s in the draft to lose that last football game. Otherwise, they would’ve benched Mills and Cooks and played Todd and me. May as well trade down to a team that’s a lot more polished than us and needing a QB like Stroud or Young. Or maybe they figured they would get a good QB win or lose with the 2nd pick. I hear a lot that Stroud and Young are pretty close quality-wise, so maybe it just didn't matter to them. (Plus, wouldn't a 2nd pick be cheaper than a 1st pick and they'd save some money?) |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 11, 2023 14:24:16 GMT -6
I think we can assume the Texans didn’t care enough about the QB’s in the draft to lose that last football game. Otherwise, they would’ve benched Mills and Cooks and played Todd and me. May as well trade down to a team that’s a lot more polished than us and needing a QB like Stroud or Young. Or maybe they figured they would get a good QB win or lose with the 2nd pick. I hear a lot that Stroud and Young are pretty close quality-wise, so maybe it just didn't matter to them. (Plus, wouldn't a 2nd pick be cheaper than a 1st pick and they'd save some money?) You want the first round pick because you get 1 extra year of team control. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 11, 2023 14:26:21 GMT -6
I think we can assume the Texans didn’t care enough about the QB’s in the draft to lose that last football game. Otherwise, they would’ve benched Mills and Cooks and played Todd and me. May as well trade down to a team that’s a lot more polished than us and needing a QB like Stroud or Young. Or maybe they figured they would get a good QB win or lose with the 2nd pick. I hear a lot that Stroud and Young are pretty close quality-wise, so maybe it just didn't matter to them. (Plus, wouldn't a 2nd pick be cheaper than a 1st pick and they'd save some money?) I have a crazy idea that could work for Houston. I hope Chicago falls in love with one of the Qbs. Then I believe Chicago would trade us Fields for our 2nd first round pick. We come out of the draft with the top defensive player on the board plus our qb of the future. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 11, 2023 14:52:59 GMT -6
Or maybe they figured they would get a good QB win or lose with the 2nd pick. I hear a lot that Stroud and Young are pretty close quality-wise, so maybe it just didn't matter to them. (Plus, wouldn't a 2nd pick be cheaper than a 1st pick and they'd save some money?) I have a crazy idea that could work for Houston. I hope Chicago falls in love with one of the Qbs. Then I believe Chicago would trade us Fields for our 2nd first round pick. We come out of the draft with the top defensive player on the board plus our qb of the future. Outside of his running ability, his stats look pretty close to Mills. Would he be that much of an improvement? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 11, 2023 16:46:29 GMT -6
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 11, 2023 18:42:54 GMT -6
To everyone I'm sorry about posting this on this thread. It was supposed to be on the other thread.
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 11, 2023 19:18:48 GMT -6
I think we can assume the Texans didn’t care enough about the QB’s in the draft to lose that last football game. Otherwise, they would’ve benched Mills and Cooks and played Todd and me. May as well trade down to a team that’s a lot more polished than us and needing a QB like Stroud or Young. Or maybe they figured they would get a good QB win or lose with the 2nd pick. I hear a lot that Stroud and Young are pretty close quality-wise, so maybe it just didn't matter to them. (Plus, wouldn't a 2nd pick be cheaper than a 1st pick and they'd save some money?) I don't pay attention to NFL as much as I used to, but everything I've read says there's 4 quarterbacks who are first-round worthy. So even though trading down makes more sense for Chicago than us, we can do it anyway and still draft a 1st-Rd QB if everyone insists on skeeting over that |
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 11, 2023 19:36:27 GMT -6
I've been told that the Georgia QB (despite having a great numbers and winning the last two championships) is not a high draft pick because of his size. CFB purists are complaining about how old he is. It wouldn't feel like he'd be a rookie to the extent it tends to if we drafted him. I've always thought having a competent backup is more important than someone elite at the position. Cody Carlson doesn't enough credit for helping those frustrating Moon-Oiler teams get in the win column when he was called upon to |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 11, 2023 19:54:43 GMT -6
I've been told that the Georgia QB (despite having a great numbers and winning the last two championships) is not a high draft pick because of his size. CFB purists are complaining about how old he is. It wouldn't feel like he'd be a rookie to the extent it tends to if we drafted him. I've always thought having a competent backup is more important than someone elite at the position. Cody Carlson doesn't enough credit for helping those frustrating Moon-Oiler teams get in the win column when he was called upon to Shit, to be 25 and considered old.. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 11, 2023 21:20:11 GMT -6
I have a crazy idea that could work for Houston. I hope Chicago falls in love with one of the Qbs. Then I believe Chicago would trade us Fields for our 2nd first round pick. We come out of the draft with the top defensive player on the board plus our qb of the future. Outside of his running ability, his stats look pretty close to Mills. Would he be that much of an improvement? Hands down... |
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Post by Saint on Jan 12, 2023 12:08:05 GMT -6
I've been told that the Georgia QB (despite having a great numbers and winning the last two championships) is not a high draft pick because of his size. CFB purists are complaining about how old he is. It wouldn't feel like he'd be a rookie to the extent it tends to if we drafted him. I've always thought having a competent backup is more important than someone elite at the position. Cody Carlson doesn't enough credit for helping those frustrating Moon-Oiler teams get in the win column when he was called upon to Not feeling like a rookie seems like a good thing to me... |
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