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Post by churchill on Dec 9, 2023 14:39:59 GMT -6
Ohtani is a Dodger. 10 years $700 million. insane |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 9, 2023 14:46:31 GMT -6
Ohtani is a Dodger. 10 years $700 million. insane Well past insane |
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Post by Ashitaka on Dec 9, 2023 15:04:32 GMT -6
No full details yet but apparently Ohtani suggested and the Dodgers agreed that a lot of that money is deferred, greatly reducing their cap hit so they can build a better team around him.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 9, 2023 15:16:06 GMT -6
No full details yet but apparently Ohtani suggested and the Dodgers agreed that a lot of that money is deferred, greatly reducing their cap hit so they can build a better team around him. So can we do the same with Yamamoto? |
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Post by talshill on Dec 9, 2023 16:53:32 GMT -6
Get ready for $80 beer and $50 hot dogs in Chavez Ravine. Apparently their bean counters figured up how much he would be worth to them in the next decade and his value greatly exceeded the $700M. He’s now the highest paid DH in history. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 9, 2023 22:50:33 GMT -6
I'm sure they're looking at the merchandising and endorsements and such to make this worthwhile. It's certainly not because they truly feel his production on the field is worth that.
He may never be much of a pitcher again.
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Post by m240 on Dec 9, 2023 22:54:56 GMT -6
No full details yet but apparently Ohtani suggested and the Dodgers agreed that a lot of that money is deferred, greatly reducing their cap hit so they can build a better team around him. No one has seen the contract so no one knows how the deal is structured so unless there is some real funny business in there the Dodgers are going to be paying some real penalties. The deferred money decreases the net present value of the total monies spent and it improves the cash flow. It does not change the impact of the luxury tax. Example let' say that the contract is for 10 years of playing but pays out in 20 installments of 35 million per year. The salary for tax purposes is 70 million per year. However the net present value of the monies paid in year 20 and assuming a constant inflation rate of 3% would be ONLY 21 million in present day dollars not 35 million. |
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Post by kyledriver1980 on Dec 10, 2023 6:46:12 GMT -6
Get Jordan Hicks and call it a day. Work on the defense, and hope Abreu and Pena contribute more. I read the other day from Brian McTaggart that the Astros are in on Hicks. The issue is Hicks wants 3 years and the Astros are only willing to go 2 years. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 10, 2023 7:19:13 GMT -6
Get Jordan Hicks and call it a day. Work on the defense, and hope Abreu and Pena contribute more. I read the other day from Brian McTaggart that the Astros are in on Hicks. The issue is Hicks wants 3 years and the Astros are only willing to go 2 years. I would be for the Astros signing Hicks to a 3 year deal |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 10, 2023 8:07:46 GMT -6
Get Jordan Hicks and call it a day. Work on the defense, and hope Abreu and Pena contribute more. I read the other day from Brian McTaggart that the Astros are in on Hicks. The issue is Hicks wants 3 years and the Astros are only willing to go 2 years. LOL |
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Post by Ashitaka on Dec 10, 2023 14:33:21 GMT -6
Get Jordan Hicks and call it a day. Work on the defense, and hope Abreu and Pena contribute more. I read the other day from Brian McTaggart that the Astros are in on Hicks. The issue is Hicks wants 3 years and the Astros are only willing to go 2 years. Boy how cheap and stupid would it be to miss out on Hicks for that reason, especially a year after giving Montero three years... |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 10, 2023 14:56:59 GMT -6
I read the other day from Brian McTaggart that the Astros are in on Hicks. The issue is Hicks wants 3 years and the Astros are only willing to go 2 years. Boy how cheap and stupid would it be to miss out on Hicks for that reason, especially a year after giving Montero three years... Seriously, the first thing I thought of was useless Montero. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 10, 2023 15:23:59 GMT -6
Boy how cheap and stupid would it be to miss out on Hicks for that reason, especially a year after giving Montero three years... Seriously, the first thing I thought of was useless Montero. I think everyone here was like WTF when they gave Montero that big contract |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 10, 2023 15:25:58 GMT -6
Seriously, the first thing I thought of was useless Montero. I think everyone here was like WTF when they gave Montero that big contract I think they just toss out short term contracts to people and if they sign, they think it’s great. The problem is guys like Montero and McCullers are overrated by the team. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Dec 10, 2023 17:56:19 GMT -6
Hicks is a walking injury risk, imo.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 10, 2023 18:28:27 GMT -6
Hicks is a walking injury risk, imo. It’s worth the Hicks |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 10, 2023 18:36:05 GMT -6
Hicks is a walking injury risk, imo. And Montero is a pitching risk. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 10, 2023 18:48:06 GMT -6
I have a feeling the Astros sign Hicks and re-sign Brantley, and basically call it an offseason.
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 10, 2023 23:44:20 GMT -6
I have a feeling the Astros sign Hicks and re-sign Brantley, and basically call it an offseason. I love Brantley but they’ve got to move on. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 11, 2023 2:12:24 GMT -6
I have a feeling the Astros sign Hicks and re-sign Brantley, and basically call it an offseason. I love Brantley but they’ve got to move on. Just got a feeling. Astros don’t have much money to spend. There seems to be a mutual like between the Astros and Brantley. Plus the Astros are a contender snd he is an aging vet, so he stays. Unless some other team, like the Jays, just overpay. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 11, 2023 5:25:14 GMT -6
I love Brantley but they’ve got to move on. Just got a feeling. Astros don’t have much money to spend. There seems to be a mutual like between the Astros and Brantley. Plus the Astros are a contender snd he is an aging vet, so he stays. Unless some other team, like the Jays, just overpay. He’s an old slap hitter at this point and can’t even really play defense. I don’t think he adds enough to a team that already has essentially 3 DH’s: Altuve, Yordan, and Abreu. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 11, 2023 9:15:55 GMT -6
I have a feeling the Astros sign Hicks and re-sign Brantley, and basically call it an offseason. why in the world would they donate more money to Brantley? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 11, 2023 9:45:23 GMT -6
I have a feeling the Astros sign Hicks and re-sign Brantley, and basically call it an offseason. why in the world would they donate more money to Brantley? Because they aren’t going to do anything big, and Brantley would be relatively a cheap one year deal. Given his age and injury history, he is a split starter at best. But Brantley is LH, while Meyers, Dubon and McCormick are RH. Does Brantley hit for power? No. But he can hit for average and get on base. So let me know if there is another veteran .280/.350/.420 LH bat that will sign a 1 year deal, to split starts. And then I will add that person to the Astros possible target list. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 11, 2023 9:47:22 GMT -6
Even paying $1 to sit on the IL for 2 years is a waste of $1
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Post by abregmanfan on Dec 11, 2023 11:23:10 GMT -6
I wish Brantley would retire and become our hitting coach.
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 11, 2023 13:28:57 GMT -6
Even paying $1 to sit on the IL for 2 years is a waste of $1 (Lance McCullers, Jr. has entered the chat.) |
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Post by Saint on Dec 11, 2023 17:19:13 GMT -6
So supposedly Ohtani is deferring about all but about $20 million until 10 years from now so that it doesn't hurt the Dodgers ability to add more players right now....
I feel like this is going to lead some major changes regarding the luxury tax guidelines.
Hell, there may not even be an MLB 10 years from now.
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Post by Ashitaka on Dec 11, 2023 17:28:41 GMT -6
So supposedly Ohtani is deferring about all but about $20 million until 10 years from now so that it doesn't hurt the Dodgers ability to add more players right now.... I feel like this is going to lead some major changes regarding the luxury tax guidelines. Hell, there may not even be an MLB 10 years from now. Yeah this is nonsense: So Ohtani's cap hit will be under $30 million because of his willingness to game the system for the Dodgers advantage. A smaller cap hit than Anthony Rendon and Francisco Lindor. IOW the cap can essentially be bypassed and made a mockery of if a player is willing to defer. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 11, 2023 18:11:53 GMT -6
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 11, 2023 19:20:18 GMT -6
Even paying $1 to sit on the IL for 2 years is a waste of $1 Brantley not playing >>>>> Maldonado playing |
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