marshall
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Post by marshall on Jun 17, 2018 21:13:02 GMT -6
All the things that could be running through his mind at that split second:
1. If I tag 3B i remove the force play at the plate.
2. If I get it to the plate quick enough there's a chance for a force at 1B.
3. Just get the guy who's about to score.
4. I wonder if we're having chicken, beef or fish tonight.
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Post by Saint on Jun 17, 2018 21:34:33 GMT -6
In the end it was just a bad throw. Makes it an error. Shit happens.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 18, 2018 3:21:10 GMT -6
Next game vs. TBR has kind of a funky pitching matchup. The Rays are starting Stanek, who is basically a reliever. Their pattern the last few trips through the order is to let Stanek go 30 pitches and pull him (usually in the second inning). This is a tandem starting duo with Austin Pruitt, who has thrown anywhere from 30 to 90 pitches in these tandem starts. Matt Andriese is another reliever they can go to after Stanek/Pruitt if they need multiple innings.
A weird approach to bullpen management by TBR.
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marshall
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Post by marshall on Jun 18, 2018 3:52:26 GMT -6
Next game vs. TBR has kind of a funky pitching matchup. The Rays are starting Stanek, who is basically a reliever. Their pattern the last few trips through the order is to let Stanek go 30 pitches and pull him (usually in the second inning). This is a tandem starting duo with Austin Pruitt, who has thrown anywhere from 30 to 90 pitches in these tandem starts. Matt Andriese is another reliever they can go to after Stanek/Pruitt if they need multiple innings. A weird approach to bullpen management by TBR. I like seeing teams try new things. I also like seeing us hit anybody they throw out there. |
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Post by koolade2 on Jun 18, 2018 4:27:58 GMT -6
Not looking good for our side today. Nobody really seems into the game. No thought of winning 11 in a row. Isn’t it a great feeling when you’re wrong about certain things? I see you caught that. Yes, I love being wrong. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 18, 2018 4:50:59 GMT -6
Nice to see the Astros make two *comeback* wins behind Morton & McCullers. The late-inning comeback stuff has sort of been missing from this year's team. Maybe it is partly a testament to jumping out to early leads.
I think Snell will provide the biggest challenge in this coming series; he's a former first-round draft pick and earning his paycheck admirably. NYY has gotten to him a couple times though, and the Astros' offense is about comparable to the Yankees', so let's see if the guys can have a big inning off of Snell. He's a lefty and I'd really like to see Tyler White start at 1B this game.
Eovaldi is up in the third game and this will be only his fifth start. He threw six innings of no-hit ball against Oakland to start the season, but was pulled after 75 pitches regardless of the no-hit bid. Since then, he has been quite hittable.
The Astros won't face another .500 or better team until July 9, when they play Oakland. Time to pile on the wins!
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 18, 2018 5:13:47 GMT -6
The Royals will be a somewhat weakened team by the next time the Astros play them at Minute Maid, as Soler will still be out for another month at least, and Merrifield is day-to-day after fouling that ball off his knee. That leaves Moustakas as their only really healthy good hitter.
It's probably ridiculous and greedy to hope for a season sweep of the Royals, but the way the Mariners have been pulling wins out of their magic hat, piling up wins now could make the difference in taking the division later.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 18, 2018 7:28:46 GMT -6
Isn’t it a great feeling when you’re wrong about certain things? I see you caught that. Yes, I love being wrong. Don’t worry. I’ve been there about a million times. |
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Post by m240 on Jun 18, 2018 8:11:38 GMT -6
I see you caught that. Yes, I love being wrong. Don’t worry. I’ve been there about a million times. a whole bunch of us were wrong about Gattis. That dude saw the bus coming for him and said hell no. Glad he did as he is a great club house guy based upon what folks say. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 18, 2018 9:46:04 GMT -6
That grand slam he hit the other day was a damn hero moment.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 18, 2018 11:10:41 GMT -6
It's hard to find a weakness with this year's Astros team, but one of the candidates might be baserunning smarts. Anecdotally, it's seemed that the Astros make a lot of brain-farts on the bases and get picked off, caught in unnecessary rundowns, doubled up, thrown out trying to take an extra base, etc. So I looked up the numbers and here's where the team is at:
So far, the Astros have made 29 outs while advancing on a fly ball, trying to stretch a single into a double or a double into a triple, doubled off on a line drive, or advancing on a passed ball or wild pitch.
That is the third-highest number of such outs made by an AL team this year; only the Red Sox and Rays have more. The MLB average is 23 such outs.
Perhaps, if we consider that the Astros have the AL's highest OBP (the Cubs having an even higher one in the NL), we can excuse the team for making those extra 6 outs above the league average. The Astros simply have more opportunities to make such mistakes than other teams do.
The Orioles, by contrast, have only 15 such outs, but that doesn't make them a good offense.
The Astros have two individual players in the MLB Top 20 in terms of baserunning gaffes resulting in outs -- Bregman with 7 (tied with 3 others for the MLB lead) and Marwin with 5. Perhaps the coaching staff can work with those two individuals to make an improvement in the second half.
Kemp should also be invited to the TOOTBLAN meeting as he already has 3 such outs in much more limited playing time compared with Bregman or Marwin. Mighty Mouse is fast, but apparently not as fast as he thinks he is.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 18, 2018 12:12:12 GMT -6
There are outs where they try to sneak by the defense, which is tolerable to me, but there are times like when Gordon threw out Altuve tagging and going from second to third on a short fly that make me scream on the inside. That’s just a dumb play.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 18, 2018 12:32:13 GMT -6
There are outs where they try to sneak by the defense, which is tolerable to me, but there are times like when Gordon threw out Altuve tagging and going from second to third on a short fly that make me scream on the inside. That’s just a dumb play. The three plays I saw in the KC series that were created by terrible judgment by the Astros were Kemp trying to advance to second on a fly ball to LF, Altuve trying to go to third on a shallow fly to center, and Reddick being picked off third base. Those three should never happen and are inexcusable. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 18, 2018 14:35:45 GMT -6
There are outs where they try to sneak by the defense, which is tolerable to me, but there are times like when Gordon threw out Altuve tagging and going from second to third on a short fly that make me scream on the inside. That’s just a dumb play. The three plays I saw in the KC series that were created by terrible judgment by the Astros were Kemp trying to advance to second on a fly ball to LF, Altuve trying to go to third on a shallow fly to center, and Reddick being picked off third base. Those three should never happen and are inexcusable. With the Kemp play I can maybe see why he tried that, but the other two were just dumb. There are no excuses for those plays. |
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Post by olpapa on Jun 18, 2018 14:51:36 GMT -6
The three plays I saw in the KC series that were created by terrible judgment by the Astros were Kemp trying to advance to second on a fly ball to LF, Altuve trying to go to third on a shallow fly to center, and Reddick being picked off third base. Those three should never happen and are inexcusable. With the Kemp play I can maybe see why he tried that, but the other two were just dumb. There are no excuses for those plays. I wondered if the first base coach gave Kemp the green light on that play. Didn’t seem like the kind of play a guy would make on his own if he is trying to stick with the big club. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 18, 2018 15:28:47 GMT -6
With the Kemp play I can maybe see why he tried that, but the other two were just dumb. There are no excuses for those plays. I wondered if the first base coach gave Kemp the green light on that play. Didn’t seem like the kind of play a guy would make on his own if he is trying to stick with the big club. If the first base coach told Kemp to go, he exercised very poor judgment. I think Altuve had another of his well known brain cramps when he went to third on Correa's shallow fly ball. Altuve is a great player but makes a lot of DUMB decisions. Reddick wandered too far off third and got picked off. Perez always likes to show off his arm and he caught Reddick and Pettis asleep. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 18, 2018 15:40:32 GMT -6
I wondered if the first base coach gave Kemp the green light on that play. Didn’t seem like the kind of play a guy would make on his own if he is trying to stick with the big club. If the first base coach told Kemp to go, he exercised very poor judgment. I think Altuve had another of his well known brain cramps when he went to third on Correa's shallow fly ball. Altuve is a great player but makes a lot of DUMB decisions. Reddick wandered too far off third and got picked off. Perez always likes to show off his arm and he caught Reddick and Pettis asleep. " Altuve is a great player but makes a lot of DUMB decisions." Like what? Other than swinging at the 1st pitch a little too often for my tastes, he seems to do very well on the basepaths. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 18, 2018 16:02:27 GMT -6
Altuve makes more than his share of baserunning blunders. Sometimes he swings at the first pitch when he should lay off, but, the main thing he does while batting that bothers me is trying to pull the ball too often, especially at home.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jun 18, 2018 16:11:46 GMT -6
If the first base coach told Kemp to go, he exercised very poor judgment. I think Altuve had another of his well known brain cramps when he went to third on Correa's shallow fly ball. Altuve is a great player but makes a lot of DUMB decisions. Reddick wandered too far off third and got picked off. Perez always likes to show off his arm and he caught Reddick and Pettis asleep. " Altuve is a great player but makes a lot of DUMB decisions." Like what? Other than swinging at the 1st pitch a little too often for my tastes, he seems to do very well on the basepaths. It’s funny that people complain about Altuve swinging at the first pitch too much, when nearly every day we have people complain about Correa TAKING the first pitch too much. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 18, 2018 16:14:59 GMT -6
This article is 2 years old, but it made the case that Altuve commits more than his fair share of baserunning gaffes in spite of having good speed: www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-most-bizarre-jose-altuve-stat/the article was primarily looking at the Ultimate Base Running or UBR statistic. Altuve had a negative UBR in 2015-16, when the article was published. Since that time, though, Altuve has moved his UBR into positive territory. He posted 1.2 UBR last season, and is running at 1.9 this season. This year, Marwin has the team's worst UBR at -0.7. I don't see baserunning errors as having had a big impact on the win/loss record this season, but I'd like to see a few guys (like Bregman, Marwin, and Kemp) reflect critically on why they have been thrown out on the bases so often and make some changes to their decision-making. It's the sort of thing that can make a big difference in a playoff game for good or ill. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 18, 2018 16:43:45 GMT -6
" Altuve is a great player but makes a lot of DUMB decisions." Like what? Other than swinging at the 1st pitch a little too often for my tastes, he seems to do very well on the basepaths. It’s funny that people complain about Altuve swinging at the first pitch too much, when nearly every day we have people complain about Correa TAKING the first pitch too much. He sure ain’t taking strikes right now. He’s killing the ball. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 18, 2018 16:44:39 GMT -6
" Altuve is a great player but makes a lot of DUMB decisions." Like what? Other than swinging at the 1st pitch a little too often for my tastes, he seems to do very well on the basepaths. It’s funny that people complain about Altuve swinging at the first pitch too much, when nearly every day we have people complain about Correa TAKING the first pitch too much. In the end, the approaches work well for both of them. Ideally they would both be a little more in between. My main complaint with swinging at the first pitch is when it comes after a walk or when a pitcher is having too quick an inning. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 18, 2018 16:45:46 GMT -6
Altuve makes more than his share of baserunning blunders. Sometimes he swings at the first pitch when he should lay off, but, the main thing he does while batting that bothers me is trying to pull the ball too often, especially at home. He's been a great baserunner the last couple years. I think it just took some maturing. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 18, 2018 16:46:12 GMT -6
This article is 2 years old, but it made the case that Altuve commits more than his fair share of baserunning gaffes in spite of having good speed: www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-most-bizarre-jose-altuve-stat/the article was primarily looking at the Ultimate Base Running or UBR statistic. Altuve had a negative UBR in 2015-16, when the article was published. Since that time, though, Altuve has moved his UBR into positive territory. He posted 1.2 UBR last season, and is running at 1.9 this season. This year, Marwin has the team's worst UBR at -0.7. I don't see baserunning errors as having had a big impact on the win/loss record this season, but I'd like to see a few guys (like Bregman, Marwin, and Kemp) reflect critically on why they have been thrown out on the bases so often and make some changes to their decision-making. It's the sort of thing that can make a big difference in a playoff game for good or ill. Yeah I didn't have the numbers but that's basically what I remembered. |
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