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Post by olpapa on Jun 24, 2018 12:25:19 GMT -6
If Luhnow were to trade for Abreu, I believe Davis is gone. If we have Yuli and Abreu on the roster next year, one of them will play 1B and the other DH. No room for Davis. I was looking on the COT's link on contracts, this is his last year at 13 mill, I actually thought he was making more. I remember the Stros were in on him, AE next year and FA in 2020. I just can’t make acquiring Abreu this season make sense. How would we get Yuli, Gattis and Abreu in the lineup at the same time this season without weakening the defense to the point that any gain in offense would be more than offset by the loss in defense. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jun 24, 2018 12:25:28 GMT -6
Exactly and that is why I don't think we go after Abreu. He won't replace Yuli or Gattis so why would we need him? If we are going to deal for a bat, it should be an outfielder. Our main target has to be the pen. I wish we could sucker somebody into taking Giles off our hands. Fans of another team need to get to watch him squat. I agree with you. I can’t see how adding Abreu makes sense. We need to add an OF bat and I think that bat is at AAA waiting for the callup that is coming soon. I really think Tucker can give this team a spark. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 24, 2018 12:26:36 GMT -6
I was looking on the COT's link on contracts, this is his last year at 13 mill, I actually thought he was making more. I remember the Stros were in on him, AE next year and FA in 2020. I just can’t make acquiring Abreu this season make sense. How would we get Yuli, Gattis and Abreu in the lineup at the same time this season without weakening the defense to the point that any gain in offense would be more than offset by the loss in defense. Rotations. Plus what are the odds we don't start having a significant injury or two? |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jun 24, 2018 12:27:47 GMT -6
I was looking on the COT's link on contracts, this is his last year at 13 mill, I actually thought he was making more. I remember the Stros were in on him, AE next year and FA in 2020. I just can’t make acquiring Abreu this season make sense. How would we get Yuli, Gattis and Abreu in the lineup at the same time this season without weakening the defense to the point that any gain in offense would be more than offset by the loss in defense. I agree with you there. How this organization goes, Davis would have the first shot. |
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Post by olpapa on Jun 24, 2018 12:32:47 GMT -6
I just can’t make acquiring Abreu this season make sense. How would we get Yuli, Gattis and Abreu in the lineup at the same time this season without weakening the defense to the point that any gain in offense would be more than offset by the loss in defense. Rotations. Plus what are the odds we don't start having a significant injury or two? Please explain the rotations the team can make to get Yuli, Gattis and Abreu into the lineup at the same time without hurting the defense. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jun 24, 2018 12:33:38 GMT -6
Rotations. Plus what are the odds we don't start having a significant injury or two? Please explain the rotations the team can make to get Yuli, Gattis and Abreu into the lineup at the same time without hurting the defense. Can't happen...... |
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Post by Saint on Jun 24, 2018 12:40:12 GMT -6
Rotations. Plus what are the odds we don't start having a significant injury or two? Please explain the rotations the team can make to get Yuli, Gattis and Abreu into the lineup at the same time without hurting the defense. Well they wouldn't get 100% of time each if there are no injuries, but Gattis could catch a few games down the stretch also. Gurriel can play some 3B now and then too. But I expect someone to get hurt too. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 24, 2018 12:41:07 GMT -6
It's more about depth with a proven excellent hitter. Gurriel doesn't have to play everyday... He's mediocre when he has no power.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jun 24, 2018 12:41:25 GMT -6
Please explain the rotations the team can make to get Yuli, Gattis and Abreu into the lineup at the same time without hurting the defense. Well they wouldn't get 100% of time each if there are no injuries, but Gattis could catch a few games down the stretch also. Gurriel can play some 3B now and then too. But I expect someone to get hurt too. I don't like the idea of Gattis catching any games. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 24, 2018 12:42:20 GMT -6
Well they wouldn't get 100% of time each if there are no injuries, but Gattis could catch a few games down the stretch also. Gurriel can play some 3B now and then too. But I expect someone to get hurt too. I don't like the idea of Gattis catching any games. He would do well enough for 5-10 games to give McCann extra rest and not burn out Stassi before the postseason. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jun 24, 2018 12:49:56 GMT -6
I don't like the idea of Gattis catching any games. He would do well enough for 5-10 games to give McCann extra rest and not burn out Stassi before the postseason. Off hand I don't think Gattis has had a start behind the plate, you would think he would have had a couple by now. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 24, 2018 12:54:45 GMT -6
I just think if you have the chance to add an all-star caliber hitter for another deep postseason run, you add him. Gurriel is a 120 OPS+ hitter at best IF he gets his power back. I love Gattis but he's streaky too. Abreu is a 140 OPS+ hitter who hits 30 HRs and drives in a 100 runs even on bad teams. Plus he could DH next year and Gattis could walk. Davis would still get some PT next year.
Obviously if it's feasible prospect wise. I wouldn't give up the farm for him. We need a shutdown reliever more.
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Post by olpapa on Jun 24, 2018 12:56:11 GMT -6
Please explain the rotations the team can make to get Yuli, Gattis and Abreu into the lineup at the same time without hurting the defense. Well they wouldn't get 100% of time each if there are no injuries, but Gattis could catch a few games down the stretch also. Gurriel can play some 3B now and then too. But I expect someone to get hurt too. I don’t see how playing Yuli at 3B (where is Bregman when Yuli plays 3B?) and playing Gattis at catcher does not weaken the defense. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 24, 2018 12:57:58 GMT -6
Well they wouldn't get 100% of time each if there are no injuries, but Gattis could catch a few games down the stretch also. Gurriel can play some 3B now and then too. But I expect someone to get hurt too. I don’t see how playing Yuli at 3B (where is Bregman when Yuli plays 3B?) and playing Gattis at catcher does not weaken the defense. It weakens a little, on and off, but I think the offensive boost would out weigh it. The idea is depth though. More days off to keep people rested, more good matchup and swap opportunities. We're in a position to be greedy. |
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Post by olpapa on Jun 24, 2018 13:08:18 GMT -6
It's more about depth with a proven excellent hitter. Gurriel doesn't have to play everyday... He's mediocre when he has no power. I’m sorry. I stepped away for a moment to see Yuli hit a grand slam. You were saying? |
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Post by Saint on Jun 24, 2018 13:14:06 GMT -6
It's more about depth with a proven excellent hitter. Gurriel doesn't have to play everyday... He's mediocre when he has no power. I’m sorry. I stepped away for a moment to see Yuli hit a grand slam. You were saying? My point still holds though. Gurriel is a professional hitter, but he isn't at Abreu's level. And even if he was, let's be greedy. Depth and a plan for next year. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 24, 2018 13:53:05 GMT -6
Is Cole gonna have a QS today?
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Post by Saint on Jun 24, 2018 13:53:53 GMT -6
Is Cole gonna have a QS today? Wrong thread, Turdboat. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 24, 2018 13:55:06 GMT -6
Is Cole gonna have a QS today? Wrong thread, Turdboat. I pull a Marshall??? |
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Post by marshall on Jun 24, 2018 15:33:24 GMT -6
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Post by olpapa on Jun 24, 2018 19:10:56 GMT -6
I just think if you have the chance to add an all-star caliber hitter for another deep postseason run, you add him. Gurriel is a 120 OPS+ hitter at best IF he gets his power back. I love Gattis but he's streaky too. Abreu is a 140 OPS+ hitter who hits 30 HRs and drives in a 100 runs even on bad teams. Plus he could DH next year and Gattis could walk. Davis would still get some PT next year. Obviously if it's feasible prospect wise. I wouldn't give up the farm for him. We need a shutdown reliever more. What would you think about the Astros trading for Treinen? |
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Post by Saint on Jun 24, 2018 19:31:12 GMT -6
I just think if you have the chance to add an all-star caliber hitter for another deep postseason run, you add him. Gurriel is a 120 OPS+ hitter at best IF he gets his power back. I love Gattis but he's streaky too. Abreu is a 140 OPS+ hitter who hits 30 HRs and drives in a 100 runs even on bad teams. Plus he could DH next year and Gattis could walk. Davis would still get some PT next year. Obviously if it's feasible prospect wise. I wouldn't give up the farm for him. We need a shutdown reliever more. What would you think about the Astros trading for Treinen? I think he would be a nice piece. Plus we can not pick up the Harris option after the season. Edit: I really like Barraclough too. |
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Post by olpapa on Jun 24, 2018 20:33:28 GMT -6
What would you think about the Astros trading for Treinen? I think he would be a nice piece. Plus we can not pick up the Harris option after the season. Edit: I really like Barraclough too. I agree with you on Harris. Barraclough’s walk rate is a bit high. Other than that I like his numbers. |
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