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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 5, 2018 7:01:22 GMT -6
I’m not big on talking about bad luck and all when discussing a player’s recent performance, but George and even Altuve have been hitting rocket shots thatve been tracked down for outs.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 5, 2018 8:42:17 GMT -6
Springer shouldn't make any big adjustments. Fundamentally he's hitting the ball hard in enough trips to the plate; his luck will change soon.
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Post by Saint on Jul 5, 2018 9:01:46 GMT -6
Springers numbers aren't that much lower than his normal career AVG and OBP. His SLG is what's much much lower.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 5, 2018 9:37:07 GMT -6
Dominant inning by Giles. Good to see. 12/12 haters! 😎 You love that 12/12, but seem to be averse to mentioning all the games he blew up. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 5, 2018 9:42:05 GMT -6
Operation BTSOOTR continues. Please translate my language for me. Beat The Shit Out Of Texas Rangers |
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Post by Saint on Jul 5, 2018 9:43:22 GMT -6
Dominant inning by Giles. Good to see. 12/12 haters! 😎 You love that 12/12, but seem to be averse to mentioning all the games he blew up. Oh for sure he has had some bad games. I'm just reiterating my point that he does well in save situations. He's not a shutdown reliever, but he can close out save situations. That's all I've ever defended him on. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 9:49:19 GMT -6
Please translate my language for me. Beat The Shit Out Of Texas Rangers aka....surgically remove silver boot from rump ranger rectal tissue. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 5, 2018 11:19:24 GMT -6
Dominant inning by Giles. Good to see. 12/12 haters! 😎 You love that 12/12, but seem to be averse to mentioning all the games he blew up. The "saves" Giles has pale when looking at the times he's been lit up and blew games for us. He did a great job last night and I give him credit for that, but, I still don't trust him as the regular closer. I am sure he was used last night because of all the pitches thrown by Rondon on Tuesday. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 5, 2018 11:31:26 GMT -6
You love that 12/12, but seem to be averse to mentioning all the games he blew up. The "saves" Giles has pale when looking at the times he's been lit up and blew games for us. He did a great job last night and I give him credit for that, but, I still don't trust him as the regular closer. I am sure he was used last night because of all the pitches thrown by Rondon on Tuesday. In the 32 games he has pitched this year he has given up runs in only 7 of them. And only three of those games were more than one run. As for being a "closer" or not, I wouldn't mess with Rondon since he is doing fine, but Giles has 12 saves in all 12 save opportunities with a 0.00 ERA and a WHIP of .667 in those situations. It's the non-save situations where he has really struggled for whatever reason (psychological, I'm sure). Again, I'm not saying Giles is awesome or anything (he isn't), but he can close out most games for us just fine. I'd never bring him in a tie game though. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 5, 2018 12:02:49 GMT -6
The "saves" Giles has pale when looking at the times he's been lit up and blew games for us. He did a great job last night and I give him credit for that, but, I still don't trust him as the regular closer. I am sure he was used last night because of all the pitches thrown by Rondon on Tuesday. In the 32 games he has pitched this year he has given up runs in only 7 of them. And only three of those games were more than one run. As for being a "closer" or not, I wouldn't mess with Rondon since he is doing fine, but Giles has 12 saves in all 12 save opportunities with a 0.00 ERA and a WHIP of .667 in those situations. It's the non-save situations where he has really struggled for whatever reason (psychological, I'm sure). Again, I'm not saying Giles is awesome or anything (he isn't), but he can close out most games for us just fine. I'd never bring him in a tie game though. That’s an awful lot of caveats for a great reliever: no losing games, no tie games, no blowouts, etc. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 5, 2018 12:04:13 GMT -6
In the 32 games he has pitched this year he has given up runs in only 7 of them. And only three of those games were more than one run. As for being a "closer" or not, I wouldn't mess with Rondon since he is doing fine, but Giles has 12 saves in all 12 save opportunities with a 0.00 ERA and a WHIP of .667 in those situations. It's the non-save situations where he has really struggled for whatever reason (psychological, I'm sure). Again, I'm not saying Giles is awesome or anything (he isn't), but he can close out most games for us just fine. I'd never bring him in a tie game though. That’s an awful lot of caveats for a great reliever: no losing games, no tie games, no blowouts, etc. I specifically said he wasn't a great reliever. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 5, 2018 12:09:28 GMT -6
Please translate my language for me. Beat The Shit Out Of Texas Rangers Me disappoint. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 5, 2018 12:11:13 GMT -6
It’s a rip off of an A&M slogan.
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Post by marshall on Jul 5, 2018 12:11:18 GMT -6
Please translate my language for me. Beat The Shit Out Of Texas Rangers I'd use SNOT, but I'm old school. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 5, 2018 12:12:17 GMT -6
Shiiiit, old people cuss more than anyone I know.
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Post by marshall on Jul 5, 2018 12:13:25 GMT -6
Shiiiit, old people cuss more than anyone I know. You need a better class of old people around you. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 5, 2018 12:14:41 GMT -6
Old people uniformly cuss, across the class system.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 5, 2018 12:16:06 GMT -6
That’s an awful lot of caveats for a great reliever: no losing games, no tie games, no blowouts, etc. I specifically said he wasn't a great reliever. Well, what’s the point in boasting about 12/12 then? |
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Post by Saint on Jul 5, 2018 12:17:13 GMT -6
I specifically said he wasn't a great reliever. Well, what’s the point in boasting about 12/12 then? Reiterating that he has value in certain situations, save situations. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 5, 2018 12:18:43 GMT -6
Well, what’s the point in boasting about 12/12 then? Reiterating that he has value in certain situations, save situations. So, a more consistently great reliever would render him useless? |
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Post by Saint on Jul 5, 2018 12:20:13 GMT -6
Reiterating that he has value in certain situations, save situations. So, a more consistently great reliever would render him useless? Useless? I don't think a reliever with a sub-4.00 ERA (and sub-3.00 career ERA) is ever useless. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 5, 2018 12:23:04 GMT -6
So, a more consistently great reliever would render him useless? Useless? I don't think a reliever with a sub-4.00 ERA (and sub-3.00 career ERA) is ever useless. Not useless unless the game is tied, his team is losing, his team is winning big, he punches himself in the face... |
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Post by marshall on Jul 5, 2018 12:28:43 GMT -6
Old people uniformly cuss, across the class system. I need only one example to prove that statement wrong.
I hang around quite a number of them.
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Post by Saint on Jul 5, 2018 12:30:03 GMT -6
Useless? I don't think a reliever with a sub-4.00 ERA (and sub-3.00 career ERA) is ever useless. Not useless unless the game is tied, his team is losing, his team is winning big, he punches himself in the face... This year his numbers in low leverage situations are his worst. He does very well the majority of the time when we use him in situations where we have any kind of lead (.481 OPS against). He is at his worst when we bring him in during tie games (1.304 OPS against) losing games (.885 OPS against). So one run lead or more? The numbers say you've got a good reliever in him. Tied or losing? Don't use him unless options are limited. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 5, 2018 12:32:08 GMT -6
Old people uniformly cuss, across the class system. I need only one example to prove that statement wrong.
I hang around quite a number of them.
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Post by marshall on Jul 5, 2018 12:52:33 GMT -6
I need only one example to prove that statement wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 12:53:05 GMT -6
In my youth that I was a purveyor of the philosophy that people who cursed did so due to a lack of vocabulary. Then by the age of 50, I said f__ it.
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Post by olpapa on Jul 5, 2018 13:01:08 GMT -6
In my youth that I was a purveyor of the philosophy that people who cursed did so due to a lack of vocabulary. Then by the age of 50, I said f__ it. ***** |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 5, 2018 13:17:47 GMT -6
The "saves" Giles has pale when looking at the times he's been lit up and blew games for us. He did a great job last night and I give him credit for that, but, I still don't trust him as the regular closer. I am sure he was used last night because of all the pitches thrown by Rondon on Tuesday. In the 32 games he has pitched this year he has given up runs in only 7 of them. And only three of those games were more than one run. As for being a "closer" or not, I wouldn't mess with Rondon since he is doing fine, but Giles has 12 saves in all 12 save opportunities with a 0.00 ERA and a WHIP of .667 in those situations. It's the non-save situations where he has really struggled for whatever reason (psychological, I'm sure). Again, I'm not saying Giles is awesome or anything (he isn't), but he can close out most games for us just fine. I'd never bring him in a tie game though. Giles seems to be at his worst in a tie game or when the lead is too large for him to get credit for a save. I trust Rondon more than I do Giles and I would also trust McHugh to save a game. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 5, 2018 13:21:28 GMT -6
The "saves" Giles has pale when looking at the times he's been lit up and blew games for us. He did a great job last night and I give him credit for that, but, I still don't trust him as the regular closer. I am sure he was used last night because of all the pitches thrown by Rondon on Tuesday. In the 32 games he has pitched this year he has given up runs in only 7 of them. And only three of those games were more than one run. As for being a "closer" or not, I wouldn't mess with Rondon since he is doing fine, but Giles has 12 saves in all 12 save opportunities with a 0.00 ERA and a WHIP of .667 in those situations. It's the non-save situations where he has really struggled for whatever reason (psychological, I'm sure). Again, I'm not saying Giles is awesome or anything (he isn't), but he can close out most games for us just fine. I'd never bring him in a tie game though. What I can't forget is when the Yankees lit him up at home when Hinch brought him into a tie game that was scoreless due the hard work of Verlander. It took Giles about 5 minutes to give up a three-run bomb to Sanchez and cost us the game. Then, he got lit up again in Cleveland and blew a game we had won. He is a head case. |
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