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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 11, 2018 8:23:33 GMT -6
Giles punching himself was bad enough, but if he did actually curse at Hinch, then he can gtfo. You don’t show up your manager like that in front of the public. You should not be allowed to say "f*** you, man" to the manager at any time, especially when being pulled from the game. Kudos to the fans for booing this asshole off the field. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 11, 2018 8:24:39 GMT -6
Lucroy gave a great example of why the A's are the worst defensive team in the league. Could you imagine how bad they would be without Chapman at 3b? Chapman is good.....the other infielders are worse than mediocre and Lucroy is terrible. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 11, 2018 8:24:56 GMT -6
Giles punching himself was bad enough, but if he did actually curse at Hinch, then he can gtfo. You don’t show up your manager like that in front of the public. You should not be allowed to say "f*** you, man" to the manager at any time, especially when being pulled from the game. Kudos to the fans for booing this asshole off the field. I couldn’t really tell what Mongo was saying. I just assumed it was self-directed Tourette’s. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 11, 2018 8:25:30 GMT -6
Could you imagine how bad they would be without Chapman at 3b? Chapman is good.....the other infielders are worse than mediocre and Lucroy is terrible. Chapman is actually the best defender in baseball for any position. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 11, 2018 8:30:17 GMT -6
Could you imagine how bad they would be without Chapman at 3b? Chapman is good.....the other infielders are worse than mediocre and Lucroy is terrible. Olson is a good quality young 1B. |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 11, 2018 8:34:27 GMT -6
Why wasn't Bregman called out going backwards down the first base line? Nothing says you can't avoid a tag. You just can't leave the base line. I believe what he may be referring to is the rule (I’m assuming it is still in the rule book) that says something like, “the base runner shall not run the bases in reverse order in order to make a travesty of the game.” Obviously Bregman was not doing this. Runners go backward when they are in a rundown frequently. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 9:18:46 GMT -6
I was wondering if they were going to cite some rule of avoiding a tag with the baseball bat still in hand...some weird interference stipulation. It was in the heat of the moment kind of like how Lucroy didn’t have to tag Bregman. He could’ve just tossed it over to first base. To me it was more of a "deer in the headlights" moment. If they make a 10 top 2018 MLB brain farts, this moment and Gattis Grounded into Triple Play should be at or near the top of the list. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 9:23:38 GMT -6
Why wasn't Bregman called out going backwards down the first base line? Nothing says you can't avoid a tag. You just can't leave the base line. By golly.....He did miss the tag......  |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 11, 2018 9:24:02 GMT -6
I'd said recently that Bregman wasn't a likeable player, regardless of ability...but I'm kinda warming up to him lately. I like a gamer.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 11, 2018 9:24:43 GMT -6
Lucroy probably got confused about the need to get both Bregman and Reddick out; he'd have liked to turn a double play (somehow) and ended up getting no one.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 11, 2018 9:28:23 GMT -6
A graphic representation of how the A's nearly snatched victory from the jaws of defeat, and the Astros snatched it right back:  d The Astros' chances of winning were 98.9% when Giles took the mound... and under 25% when the inning was over. If this were the only time it happened this season, that would be one thing. But we've seen similar vs the Rangers and Twins. Yep, need some bullpen help. Maybe Giles is throwing these non-save situations on purpose. He knows the money is in saves so maybe he feels that Hinch is taking money from him by putting him into non-save situations. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 11, 2018 9:39:42 GMT -6
The sixth inning was an especially lucky one for the A's yesterday. Casilla was pitching... a guy I'm usually impressed by... but Tucker and Springer both scalded balls at 104-106 mph off him and due to good defensive positioning, they went for outs. Under ordinary circumstances, the Astros would have scored in that inning though, and most likely the extra innings situation would never have arisen.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 9:40:10 GMT -6
I know a lot of fans don't like the era stat, but I still got to point out......... how many WS caliber teams have a closer with a 5 era?
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 11, 2018 9:44:01 GMT -6
Next series vs DET, Astros get to face two former teammates: Fiers and Liriano.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 11, 2018 9:45:23 GMT -6
Last nights game was a crazy as you get.
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Post by Saint on Jul 11, 2018 9:58:10 GMT -6
I'd said recently that Bregman wasn't a likeable player, regardless of ability...but I'm kinda warming up to him lately. I like a gamer. I love him as a ballplayer. I think he's growing cocky fast though. Still, they can't (and don't need to be) all "good guys". |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 11, 2018 10:01:24 GMT -6
I'd said recently that Bregman wasn't a likeable player, regardless of ability...but I'm kinda warming up to him lately. I like a gamer. Not likable??? |
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Post by Saint on Jul 11, 2018 10:01:40 GMT -6
I know a lot of fans don't like the era stat, but I still got to point out......... how many WS caliber teams have a closer with a 5 era? None. And nothing wrong with the ERA stat when applied to a decent sample size. It's flawed a little but you rarely see good pitchers with bad ERAs, and bad pitchers with good ERAs. It's like AVG. A high AVG doesn't mean a hitter is necessarily great, but it certainly at least means he's not bad. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 11, 2018 10:01:50 GMT -6
I'd said recently that Bregman wasn't a likeable player, regardless of ability...but I'm kinda warming up to him lately. I like a gamer. I love him as a ballplayer. I think he's growing cocky fast though. Still, they can't (and don't need to be) all "good guys". He’s a bro’s bro. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 11, 2018 10:02:19 GMT -6
Last nights game was a crazy as you get. it was up there with Mike Fiers pinch running last year, and Peacock getting chased around the bases by Springer. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 11, 2018 10:03:00 GMT -6
I love him as a ballplayer. I think he's growing cocky fast though. Still, they can't (and don't need to be) all "good guys". He’s a bro’s bro. As long as they play hard and don't cheat (or break the law), I'm good with it. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 11, 2018 10:05:15 GMT -6
As long as they play hard and don't cheat (or break the law), I'm good with it. Cockiness is fine as long as you’re doing your job well. It’s why I couldn’t stand Gomez. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 11, 2018 10:07:41 GMT -6
I know a lot of fans don't like the era stat, but I still got to point out......... how many WS caliber teams have a closer with a 5 era? I don't think Giles is the Astros closer anymore...even before yesterday, Rondin has taken that role....Luhnow will get another top bullpen arm. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 11, 2018 10:10:49 GMT -6
I know a lot of fans don't like the era stat, but I still got to point out......... how many WS caliber teams have a closer with a 5 era? I don't think Giles is the Astros closer anymore...even before yesterday, Rondin has taken that role....Luhnow will get another top bullpen arm. They need to take him shopping for the right straitjacket. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 11, 2018 10:27:06 GMT -6
I don't think Giles is the Astros closer anymore...even before yesterday, Rondin has taken that role....Luhnow will get another top bullpen arm. They need to take him shopping for the right straitjacket. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 11, 2018 10:29:07 GMT -6
I'd said recently that Bregman wasn't a likeable player, regardless of ability...but I'm kinda warming up to him lately. I like a gamer. Not likable??? You read me correctly. I'd said that despite him being quite good, hes not a player I like. But his performance is winning me over. He will never be my favorite, but I do like how hes playing. |
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Post by m240 on Jul 11, 2018 10:29:18 GMT -6
I have watched this from all angles and still do not understand how the ball just magically slips out of his hand right before he tags him like that. It's as if the Gods intervened. Perhaps Angels in the Outfield I had a play like that back in high school. I grabbed the ball and it had so much spin on it that it just spun right out of my hand and when I went to grab it the momentum of making a grab for it pushed it further away from me. You reach out to grab the ball and when you pick it up if you do not have a strong grip on it it will flat out run away from you. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 11, 2018 10:37:09 GMT -6
it does kind of look like Larry, Moe, or Curly was playing catcher for the Athletics yesterday.
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Post by olpapa on Jul 11, 2018 10:54:53 GMT -6
Nothing says you can't avoid a tag. You just can't leave the base line. I believe what he may be referring to is the rule (I’m assuming it is still in the rule book) that says something like, “the base runner shall not run the bases in reverse order in order to make a travesty of the game.” Obviously Bregman was not doing this. Runners go backward when they are in a rundown frequently. This is the rule I was thinking about. MLB Rule 5.09.b(10) u “(10) After he has acquired legal possession of a base, he runs the bases in reverse order for the purpose of confusing the defense or making a travesty of the game. The umpire shall immediately call “Time” and declare the runner out; Rule 5.09(b)(10) Comment (Rule 7.08(i) Comment): If a runner touches an unoccupied base and then thinks the ball was caught or is decoyed into returning to the base he last touched, he may be put out running back to that base, but if he reaches the previously occupied base safely he cannot be put out while in contact with that base.” Concerning Bregman and the walkoff play last night..., he would not be called out because (1) he had not “acquired legal possession of a base,” and (2) he was not running backward “for the purpose of confusing the defense or making a travesty of the game.” Also found this from a discussion at BaseballExcellence.com: “...there is an official MLB ruling that appears in the UDP (Umpire Development Program) manual that says that if a batter-runner runs backwards and actually reaches home plate ... he's *automatically* out, without having to be tagged. There's no penalty for running backwards to avoid a tag, but once the batter-runner reaches home ... he's OUT with or without a tag.” Good thing Bregman didn’t make contact with the plate when he jumped back to avoid the tag by Lucroy. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 10:58:20 GMT -6
or making a travesty of the game.”
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Don't worry...... Giles cornered the market on that commodity last night in grand fashion.
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