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Post by m240 on Jul 11, 2018 11:01:11 GMT -6
it does kind of look like Larry, Moe, or Curly was playing catcher for the Athletics yesterday. go back and just watch the path of the ball, if he had of waited for it to hit the ground again it would of taken off and ran away from him. That ball takes a 90 degree turn once it hits the dirt. that kind of spin ain't natural. The throw to first, that was just bad, the tag attempt I understand. |
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Post by marshall on Jul 11, 2018 11:46:44 GMT -6
Bregman is a gamer. There isn’t more you can ask for than constant and consistent effort. We need some more players to get Bregman's attitude. He reminds me of Biggio. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 11, 2018 11:52:02 GMT -6
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Post by Saint on Jul 11, 2018 11:54:39 GMT -6
Verlander went from pissed at Stassi, to happy he was going to get a win, to pissed he lost his win, to amazed and amused that they managed to win.
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 11, 2018 11:57:26 GMT -6
I have watched this from all angles and still do not understand how the ball just magically slips out of his hand right before he tags him like that. It's as if the Gods intervened. Perhaps Angels in the Outfield
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Post by marshall on Jul 11, 2018 11:58:53 GMT -6
it does kind of look like Larry, Moe, or Curly was playing catcher for the Athletics yesterday. go back and just watch the path of the ball, if he had of waited for it to hit the ground again it would of taken off and ran away from him. That ball takes a 90 degree turn once it hits the dirt. that kind of spin ain't natural. The throw to first, that was just bad, the tag attempt I understand. I don't blame him for the throw. It deflected off Bregman's batting helmet which probably caused the first baseman to lose track of the ball. Unless you think he should have known Bregman would veer back toward the outside of the baseline. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 11, 2018 12:12:40 GMT -6
MLB Network announcers almost seem disappointed the Astros won. They expressed tremendous sympathy for Lucroy, who is having a "really tough day" and in their view, got screwed over by the rule that says the catcher must give the runner a lane to the plate. Without this rule, they reason, Lucroy would have tagged Reddick out and changed the complexion of the inning, blah blah blah. They also aren't sure what was being reviewed but they surmise it was basically to ask NYC what rules apply to such an odd play and are they overlooking anything.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 11, 2018 12:27:21 GMT -6
I have watched this from all angles and still do not understand how the ball just magically slips out of his hand right before he tags him like that. It's as if the Gods intervened. Perhaps Angels in the Outfield I had a play like that back in high school. I grabbed the ball and it had so much spin on it that it just spun right out of my hand and when I went to grab it the momentum of making a grab for it pushed it further away from me. You reach out to grab the ball and when you pick it up if you do not have a strong grip on it it will flat out run away from you. In rec league softball, I hit a comebacker that rolled away from the pitcher and rested around home plate. Yes, I was a power hitter. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 11, 2018 12:28:46 GMT -6
Verlander went from pissed at Stassi, to happy he was going to get a win, to pissed he lost his win, to amazed and amused that they managed to win. Which was the correct sequence of emotions. |
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Post by m240 on Jul 11, 2018 12:36:56 GMT -6
go back and just watch the path of the ball, if he had of waited for it to hit the ground again it would of taken off and ran away from him. That ball takes a 90 degree turn once it hits the dirt. that kind of spin ain't natural. The throw to first, that was just bad, the tag attempt I understand. I don't blame him for the throw. It deflected off Bregman's batting helmet which probably caused the first baseman to lose track of the ball. Unless you think he should have known Bregman would veer back toward the outside of the baseline. he had time to take a couple of steps to create a better angle |
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Post by m240 on Jul 11, 2018 12:41:45 GMT -6
I had a play like that back in high school. I grabbed the ball and it had so much spin on it that it just spun right out of my hand and when I went to grab it the momentum of making a grab for it pushed it further away from me. You reach out to grab the ball and when you pick it up if you do not have a strong grip on it it will flat out run away from you. In rec league softball, I hit a comebacker that rolled away from the pitcher and rested around home plate. Yes, I was a power hitter. I am not comparing playing high school baseball to mlb for any other purpose but to help try to provide an explanation other than the baseball gods were smiling on us. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 11, 2018 12:53:09 GMT -6
I'd said recently that Bregman wasn't a likeable player, regardless of ability...but I'm kinda warming up to him lately. I like a gamer. I think his teammates like him......the opposition not so much. Players voted him to be an All-Star so some must like him. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 11, 2018 12:55:04 GMT -6
Verlander went from pissed at Stassi, to happy he was going to get a win, to pissed he lost his win, to amazed and amused that they managed to win. Why do you say Verlander was pissed at Stassi? True, they are still learning to work together, but, I saw nothing to make me think Verlander was pissed at him. If he was going to be pissed at anybody it should have been at Hinch for putting that squatting piece of crap in the game to cost him a win. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 13:01:07 GMT -6
Verlander went from pissed at Stassi, to happy he was going to get a win, to pissed he lost his win, to amazed and amused that they managed to win. Why do you say Verlander was pissed at Stassi? True, they are still learning to work together, but, I saw nothing to make me think Verlander was pissed at him. If he was going to be pissed at anybody it should have been at Hinch for putting that squatting piece of crap in the game to cost him a win. Actually that one minute conversation was Justin giving Max pointers on how to land hot SI swimsuit models. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 11, 2018 13:13:38 GMT -6
Why do you say Verlander was pissed at Stassi? True, they are still learning to work together, but, I saw nothing to make me think Verlander was pissed at him. If he was going to be pissed at anybody it should have been at Hinch for putting that squatting piece of crap in the game to cost him a win. Actually that one minute conversation was Justin giving Max pointers on how to land hot SI swimsuit models.  I hope Verlander and other veterans are in Luhnow's ear telling him to dump Giles and go get Brad Hand and Iglesius. |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 11, 2018 13:20:37 GMT -6
Can you imagine what would have happened if a pitcher had sad “F’k you” to Billy Martin or Lou Pinella when one of those guys pulled them out of the game?
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 11, 2018 13:23:06 GMT -6
Can you imagine what would have happened if a pitcher had sad “F’k you” to Billy Martin or Lou Pinella when one of those guys pulled them out of the game? That would not have ended well for the pitcher. We could add Leo Durocher and Earl Weaver to that list, too. I hope that stunt finally convinces them to get rid of Giles. |
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Post by marshall on Jul 11, 2018 13:35:28 GMT -6
Can you imagine what would have happened if a pitcher had sad “F’k you” to Billy Martin or Lou Pinella when one of those guys pulled them out of the game? You seemed convinced that comment was directed toward AJ. I do not. Other than just wanting a reason to bench Giles, why do you think his tirade was directed at anyone other than himself? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 11, 2018 13:48:30 GMT -6
Can you imagine what would have happened if a pitcher had sad “F’k you” to Billy Martin or Lou Pinella when one of those guys pulled them out of the game? You seemed convinced that comment was directed toward AJ. I do not. Other than just wanting a reason to bench Giles, why do you think his tirade was directed at anyone other than himself? Are you actually defending Giles?   He goes to the mound, gives up three straight hits without getting an out, and AJ pulled him as he should have. AJ's mistake was putting the squatting jackass in the game in the first place. Since Giles had just been pulled.....and rightfully so.....and stomped off the mound while the fans booed him off the field, WHO besides Hinch would "f*** you, man" been directed to. Of course, he directed it at Hinchl. Get rid of the S.O.B. for the good of the team. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 11, 2018 13:56:54 GMT -6
Can you imagine what would have happened if a pitcher had sad “F’k you” to Billy Martin or Lou Pinella when one of those guys pulled them out of the game? |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 11, 2018 13:58:20 GMT -6
I do not appreciate my children seeing that. That is not what I want them seeing. What a role model. Pathetic!
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Post by marshall on Jul 11, 2018 14:02:52 GMT -6
Can you imagine what would have happened if a pitcher had sad “F’k you” to Billy Martin or Lou Pinella when one of those guys pulled them out of the game? I'm not defending his pitching or his immaturity. But I do think that it was self directed. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 11, 2018 14:03:02 GMT -6
I do not appreciate my children seeing that. That is not what I want them seeing. What a role model. Pathetic! i agree......he should be gone asap. |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 11, 2018 14:06:31 GMT -6
Can you imagine what would have happened if a pitcher had sad “F’k you” to Billy Martin or Lou Pinella when one of those guys pulled them out of the game? You seemed convinced that comment was directed toward AJ. I do not. Other than just wanting a reason to bench Giles, why do you think his tirade was directed at anyone other than himself? Other than just wanting to be different, why do you think it was not directed at Hinch? |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 11, 2018 14:08:19 GMT -6
Can you imagine what would have happened if a pitcher had sad “F’k you” to Billy Martin or Lou Pinella when one of those guys pulled them out of the game? Don’t have to imagine what Billy’s reaction was. It was very un-Hinchlike as I recall. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 11, 2018 14:08:28 GMT -6
I can imagine Reggie Jackson saying it to Martin when he got back to the dugout I'm not defending his pitching or his immaturity. But I do think that it was self directed. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 11, 2018 14:08:39 GMT -6
You seemed convinced that comment was directed toward AJ. I do not. Other than just wanting a reason to bench Giles, why do you think his tirade was directed at anyone other than himself? Other than just wanting to be different, why do you think it was not directed at Hinch? You have to be blind to think that was directed at anyone other than Hinch. |
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Post by marshall on Jul 11, 2018 14:09:06 GMT -6
I do not appreciate my children seeing that. That is not what I want them seeing. What a role model. Pathetic! I wish washing his mouth out with Ivory SOAP wasn't considered abuse, but you can think the political lunatics for this idiocy. |
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Post by marshall on Jul 11, 2018 14:10:47 GMT -6
Billy Martin was also hired and fired 5 times by the same employer. Both had issues.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 11, 2018 14:11:08 GMT -6
I do not appreciate my children seeing that. That is not what I want them seeing. What a role model. Pathetic! I wish washing his mouth out with Ivory SOAP wasn't considered abuse, but you can think the political lunatics for this idiocy. "See boys, it's okay to disrespect authority" |
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He goes to the mound, gives up three straight hits without getting an out, and AJ pulled him as he should have. AJ's mistake was putting the squatting jackass in the game in the first place. Since Giles had just been pulled.....and rightfully so.....and stomped off the mound while the fans booed him off the field, WHO besides Hinch would "f*** you, man" been directed to. Of course, he directed it at Hinchl. Get rid of the S.O.B. for the good of the team.