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Post by Astros2x on Apr 1, 2018 5:35:37 GMT -6
So Greg Holland went to the Cards for $14 million on a one year deal. Sounds like an overpay to me. I know many people wanted to see him on the Astros. Personally, I can see how he would have added value, but I would have pegged his value at about $6 million not 14. So it doesn't really disappoint me that Luhnow did not outbid the Cards for this pitcher.
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Post by m240 on Apr 1, 2018 7:36:05 GMT -6
So Greg Holland went to the Cards for $14 million on a one year deal. Sounds like an overpay to me. I know many people wanted to see him on the Astros. Personally, I can see how he would have added value, but I would have pegged his value at about $6 million not 14. So it doesn't really disappoint me that Luhnow did not outbid the Cards for this pitcher. I agree that 14 million was a big over pay for him. Really though it was 14 million and a draft pick. All I can say is that they must of been desperate. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 1, 2018 7:46:30 GMT -6
Yeah, A team should have at least gotten a 2 year deal, with a 3rd year team option for Holland...Paying $14M and losing a draft pick was not a good move....I wonder if Luhnow was interested; and if so, what was he offering?
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 1, 2018 8:16:01 GMT -6
Cards have Gregerson and Holland now; should help them out, but the financial hit they took was rather high.
Rivero, Giles, and Jansen have all gotten hit hard this week. Maybe some of last year's Top 20 relievers will not be in the Top 30 this year.
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 1, 2018 8:36:53 GMT -6
Cards have Gregerson and Holland now; should help them out, but the financial hit they took was rather high. Rivero, Giles, and Jansen have all gotten hit hard this week. Maybe some of last year's Top 20 relievers will not be in the Top 30 this year. I am for the Astros getting Britton at the trade deadline.....If, Angelos is reasonable in his trade demands, which we know will be a Big IF. |
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Post by m240 on Apr 1, 2018 9:08:01 GMT -6
Cards have Gregerson and Holland now; should help them out, but the financial hit they took was rather high. Rivero, Giles, and Jansen have all gotten hit hard this week. Maybe some of last year's Top 20 relievers will not be in the Top 30 this year. My understanding is that Gregerson is hurt. He is either on the dl or being evaluated to go on the dl as of Friday. Maybe that is why they pulled the trigger on Holland. |
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Post by m240 on Apr 1, 2018 9:12:06 GMT -6
Gregerson on the dl for 10 days for a hamstring injury
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 1, 2018 10:07:02 GMT -6
So Greg Holland went to the Cards for $14 million on a one year deal. Sounds like an overpay to me. I know many people wanted to see him on the Astros. Personally, I can see how he would have added value, but I would have pegged his value at about $6 million not 14. So it doesn't really disappoint me that Luhnow did not outbid the Cards for this pitcher. I wanted him on the Astros but at about half what the Cardinals gave him |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 1, 2018 10:07:39 GMT -6
So Greg Holland went to the Cards for $14 million on a one year deal. Sounds like an overpay to me. I know many people wanted to see him on the Astros. Personally, I can see how he would have added value, but I would have pegged his value at about $6 million not 14. So it doesn't really disappoint me that Luhnow did not outbid the Cards for this pitcher. I would’ve signed him for just one season. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Apr 1, 2018 11:05:10 GMT -6
Cards have Gregerson and Holland now; should help them out, but the financial hit they took was rather high. Rivero, Giles, and Jansen have all gotten hit hard this week. Maybe some of last year's Top 20 relievers will not be in the Top 30 this year. Add Betances to the list, also him giving up a steal of home to Pillar. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Apr 1, 2018 12:11:34 GMT -6
Hello, Astros2x. Welcome to the refugee camp. Are you new to the group, or a refugee from mlb.com who changed his name?
Dont forget to complete your registration. Posting as a guest is limited.
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Post by olpapa on Apr 1, 2018 20:51:01 GMT -6
Cards have Gregerson and Holland now; should help them out, but the financial hit they took was rather high. Rivero, Giles, and Jansen have all gotten hit hard this week. Maybe some of last year's Top 20 relievers will not be in the Top 30 this year. I am for the Astros getting Britton at the trade deadline.....If, Angelos is reasonable in his trade demands, which we know will be a Big IF. The Orioles are in no position to be making unreasonable demands for Britton. Adam Jones, Machado, Britton and Brach are all free agents next offseason. That team is going to crumble after this season. The rebuild that Angelos has refused to face is going to be forced on him. That said, whether that old codger can figure this out or not is anybody’s guess. If Britton comes back strong, I think he would be a good addition to the Astros. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 1, 2018 21:07:56 GMT -6
Pop-A-Squat Giles looked okay today, but I still don't trust him....LH Britton, come trade deadline, would be a great addition for the team.
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Post by m240 on Apr 1, 2018 21:36:20 GMT -6
I really like Britton but do not trust the Os. They are senile. I would like to sign Britton this off season and trade during the year for Realmuto.
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 1, 2018 22:15:34 GMT -6
Pop-A-Squat Giles looked okay today, but I still don't trust him....LH Britton, come trade deadline, would be a great addition for the team. I don't have much confidence in Giles,but, if I remember correctly, he is usually more effective when he comes in with the game not being already decided. I do agree with trying to add Britton if they will accept a reasonable offer. |
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Post by olpapa on Apr 2, 2018 8:37:28 GMT -6
I really like Britton but do not trust the Os. They are senile. I would like to sign Britton this off season and trade during the year for Realmuto. You mentioning Realmuto made me think of another person from the old board who hasn’t arrived yet. i can’t recall his handle, but he was always coming up with these trade rumors that he could not provide a link to. He would post these rumors in such a way that it sounded like he had inside information. Some of us referred to him as Voodoo. He was enamored with Realmuto. Who was that guy? |
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Post by olpapa on Apr 2, 2018 8:40:56 GMT -6
Pop-A-Squat Giles looked okay today, but I still don't trust him....LH Britton, come trade deadline, would be a great addition for the team. The last report i saw on Britton indicated that he could be back from his achilles injury by early June. That would give plenty time to see if he is healthy and pitching effectively before the trade deadline. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 2, 2018 9:09:16 GMT -6
Pop-A-Squat Giles looked okay today, but I still don't trust him....LH Britton, come trade deadline, would be a great addition for the team. The last report i saw on Britton indicated that he could be back from his achilles injury by early June. That would give plenty time to see if he is healthy and pitching effectively before the trade deadline. I know have tunnel vision on Britton... |
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Post by olpapa on Apr 2, 2018 9:17:59 GMT -6
The last report i saw on Britton indicated that he could be back from his achilles injury by early June. That would give plenty time to see if he is healthy and pitching effectively before the trade deadline. I know have tunnel vision on Britton... Nothing wrong with that. If we could add the 2016 version of Britton to our bullpen, it would be a great move. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 2, 2018 9:27:24 GMT -6
Betances, Chapman, Rivero, and Jansen have all joined Ken Giles as top relievers from 2017 who have had a rough start to 2018. Kimbrel still looks good, and Osuna has been spotless so far. But in general the past results from last year haven't been very good predictors of results this year. I'd like to wait till the All Star Break and see who has had a hot hand. Probably will include some guys we rarely if ever hear of. E Pagan, T Hildenberger, M Givens, W Saupold... I could see any of those guys having big years. One or two might even be on the trading block come July.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Apr 2, 2018 9:32:40 GMT -6
I really like Britton but do not trust the Os. They are senile. I would like to sign Britton this off season and trade during the year for Realmuto. You mentioning Realmuto made me think of another person from the old board who hasn’t arrived yet. i can’t recall his handle, but he was always coming up with these trade rumors that he could not provide a link to. He would post these rumors in such a way that it sounded like he had inside information. Some of us referred to him as Voodoo. He was enamored with Realmuto. Who was that guy? Shygodz/Voodoo/VD |
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Post by fanastro on Apr 2, 2018 9:46:16 GMT -6
Voodoo was right once.
Back in the day there was a "Where is Jose Altuve" thread someone started because he wasn't in any minor league box scores for several days and there were no injury reports about him. Then Voodoo claims he heard Altuve was in Houston and they were about to trade Keppinger to make room for him. Other posters thought Voodoo was being ridiculous and mocked him...and then a few days later Keppinger was traded and Altuve was added to big-league roster.
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 2, 2018 10:42:01 GMT -6
In fairness to him, he did say sane things like CarGo would be a foolish acquisition and that the Astros would address a need with Realmuto. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 2, 2018 11:06:14 GMT -6
There are no Mariano Rivera's among the current crop of closers.
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Post by paastrosfan on Apr 2, 2018 11:36:55 GMT -6
Moran goes yard and his first one for the Pirates is a granny.
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Post by m240 on Apr 2, 2018 11:43:51 GMT -6
Moran should do well for them.
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 2, 2018 11:56:35 GMT -6
Maybe now more teams will trade with us.
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Post by olpapa on Apr 2, 2018 11:58:43 GMT -6
I’m pulling for Moran to do well.
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Post by olpapa on Apr 2, 2018 12:00:37 GMT -6
Maybe now more teams will trade with us. True...and with all the prospects we have who will be Rule 5 eligible, we are going to be trading some. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 2, 2018 12:27:43 GMT -6
There are no Mariano Rivera's among the current crop of closers.
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