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Post by paastrosfan on Apr 2, 2018 14:28:28 GMT -6
Moran should do well for them. Got to root for a guy like that, with the Pirates he will at least get a chance to start. The Stros what a problem to have, when thinking back to 2013 and the lack of talent. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 2, 2018 14:41:59 GMT -6
Michael Feliz also came in and pitched a scoreless inning in Moran's grand slam game. Pirates won, 5-4 in spite of leaving the bases loaded twice.
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 2, 2018 15:01:30 GMT -6
I would like to see all the guys we traded for Cole do well in Pittsburgh. Feliz has the ability if he ever learns to control the zone. Moran can be a good player for them for a long time and Musgrove could fit into the rotation. All three were blocked as far as playing for the Astros We got Cole, who we needed, and the Pirates added three players who should help them a lot. Both teams won in this deal.
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Post by m240 on Apr 2, 2018 15:12:24 GMT -6
Yes they both did. If Cole pitches the rest of the year anywhere close to what he did yesterday then all three of those guys can be all stars and you won't hear me complain.
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 3, 2018 8:34:33 GMT -6
There are no Mariano Rivera's among the current crop of closers. Honestly, you’re generally supposed to groom a closer from the farm system, but people like Hoyt, Ferrell, and McCurry aren’t ready yet. |
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Post by Saint on Apr 3, 2018 11:04:35 GMT -6
Pop-A-Squat Giles looked okay today, but I still don't trust him....LH Britton, come trade deadline, would be a great addition for the team. I don't want to see us overtrade/spend for a closer. The "closer" role is diminishing anyways. You pick up 3-4 good set-up guys for way less cost and who cares who pitches the 9th inning. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 3, 2018 11:11:34 GMT -6
Pop-A-Squat Giles looked okay today, but I still don't trust him....LH Britton, come trade deadline, would be a great addition for the team. I don't want to see us overtrade/spend for a closer. The "closer" role is diminishing anyways. You pick up 3-4 good set-up guys for way less cost and who cares who pitches the 9th inning. All things considered, Britton: a pending FA, coming off an injury, who can only pitch a 1/2 season; shouldn't be that expensive....only reason why is because Angelos, the Orioles' owner, is a completely delusional, oblivious idiot. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 3, 2018 11:15:18 GMT -6
All things considered, Britton: a pending FA, coming off an injury, who can only pitch a 1/2 season; shouldn't be that expensive....only reason why is because Angelos, the Orioles' owner, is a completely delusional, oblivious idiot. Yeah, but do you want to trade prospects for a midseason rental? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 3, 2018 13:57:22 GMT -6
All things considered, Britton: a pending FA, coming off an injury, who can only pitch a 1/2 season; shouldn't be that expensive....only reason why is because Angelos, the Orioles' owner, is a completely delusional, oblivious idiot. Yeah, but do you want to trade prospects for a midseason rental? Depends which ones, not top tier |
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 3, 2018 21:36:14 GMT -6
There are no Mariano Rivera's among the current crop of closers. Honestly, you’re generally supposed to groom a closer from the farm system, but people like Hoyt, Ferrell, and McCurry aren’t ready yet. What would you want to see from McCurry to consider him ready for The Show? Just curious |
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 3, 2018 23:13:27 GMT -6
I just didn't feel like I need Rolaids whenever Giles comes in a game.
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Post by cajunstros on Apr 4, 2018 5:23:20 GMT -6
I’m think we are all going to have to be patient this season. We are such a clubhouse team that I think most of the guys are going to get a very long leash. We have such elite talent, that it affords us the ability to hold off on demoting guys. It also means they are more than willing to let guys marinate a little longer than us fans would like.
Also, I would trade quality talent for someone coming off of an Achilles injury. Those are are the types of injuries that have a way of lingering both physically and mentally. If we are to trade any talent, it had better be for a slam dunk. If we wait for the trade deadline, we also need to take into account that player’s usage to date. We just need to look at Devo to see what overusage early in the season does to the latter half of the season.
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Post by olpapa on Apr 4, 2018 7:53:05 GMT -6
I would like to see all the guys we traded for Cole do well in Pittsburgh. Feliz has the ability if he ever learns to control the zone. Moran can be a good player for them for a long time and Musgrove could fit into the rotation. All three were blocked as far as playing for the Astros We got Cole, who we needed, and the Pirates added three players who should help them a lot. Both teams won in this deal. I agree. It was a fair deal for both teams. In addition to Moran, Musgrove and Feliz, the minor leaguer the Pirates got in the deal, Jason Martin, could help them in a year or two. Martin is currently rated as the Pirates #22 prospect by mlb.com and is projected to make his ML debut in 2019. He can play all 3 OF positions and has put up decent numbers with the bat. He could be, at least, a 4th outfielder option for them down the road. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 4, 2018 8:32:21 GMT -6
What would you want to see from McCurry to consider him ready for The Show? Just curious Just a greater body of work post-suspension. We all thought Hoyt was going to kick ass when he got called up. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 4, 2018 16:46:32 GMT -6
I want to see more of Riley Ferrell
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Post by olpapa on Apr 4, 2018 18:18:34 GMT -6
Yeah, but do you want to trade prospects for a midseason rental? Depends which ones, not top tier What we have to realize is that the Astros are in a position where they are going to have to trade some prospects or likely lose them in the Rule 5 draft in December. The Astros have 20 minor leaguers who will be eligible for the Rule 5 draft for the first time in December. Among those 20 players are 10 who are rated in the Astros Top 30 prospects by mlb.com. Those 10 are: #7 Hector Perez RHP #8 Garrett Stubbs C #12 Framber Valdez LHP #14 Miguelangel Sierra SS #18 Jorge Alcala RHP #19 Rogelio Armenteros #20 Myles Straw OF #26 Drew Ferguson #27 Trent Thornton #29 Riley Ferrell Barring injury I think it is likely that Hector Perez, Framber Valdez, Jorge Alcala and Riley Ferrell will be drafted if they are not on the 40-man roster in December. I have no doubt that Armenteros will be drafted if he is not on the 40-man roster in December. I could definitely see Garrett Stubbs being drafted. Other decent prospects not in the top 30 who will be Rule 5 eligible in December: Brendan McCurry RHP Jacob Dorris RHP Jon Kemmer OF Kemmer and McCurry were both eligible for the Rule 5 in December 2017, but weren’t drafted. I don’t think Kemmer will be drafted in 2018, but if McCurry puts up good numbers at AAA this year after the ST he had, he probably will be drafted. That’s a lot of talented prospects and we won’t have the roster space to protect them all, unless some guys who are now on the 40-man roster are traded to make room for some of them. I can’t see Luhnow letting any of those guys get snatched up by another team for nothing in return but a little cash. Methinks Luhnow will be dealing between now and mid-November. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Apr 4, 2018 18:36:04 GMT -6
I don't think much of Rule 5. Shouldn't let other teams pillage another team's system just because they managed to accumulate good talent.
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 5, 2018 10:17:15 GMT -6
Does anyone know why Melky Cabrera was not signed by any team? Is he hurt? Bad clubhouse guy?
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 5, 2018 10:25:25 GMT -6
His name is Milky, but his friends call him Casper
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 5, 2018 10:30:34 GMT -6
He has had a good disappearing act so far in 2018...
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 5, 2018 15:59:03 GMT -6
I don't think much of Rule 5. Shouldn't let other teams pillage another team's system just because they managed to accumulate good talent. I agree but it gives prospects a chance elsewhere. Imagine being a quality infield prospect on this current team. Better grab a Snickers. It’s going to be a while. Even Kyle Tucker is blocked by Marwin. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Apr 5, 2018 16:06:49 GMT -6
I'd rather expand the rosters than allow a subpar or incompetent GM steal talent from a competent GM.
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Post by bearbryant on Apr 5, 2018 16:20:31 GMT -6
Theoretically an incompetent GM wouldn't know the diamond Rule 5 acquisitions from the chaff though
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Apr 5, 2018 16:32:24 GMT -6
Even they can read a prospect ranking.
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 6, 2018 16:55:25 GMT -6
Kelvin Herrera from the Royals is said to be on the trading block. He has a career ERA of 2.84; is only 28 years old; and he has pitched in 22 postseason games (2014-15) with an ERA of 1.26.
He has a sub-.600 OPS against with RISP, suggesting he pitches well under pressure. Would the people who are uncomfortable with Giles prefer to see Herrera on the mound instead? Of course the Astros could carry both pitchers if they want. I'm guessing Herrera would replace either
(a) Sipp,
(b) whatever current reliever might go on the DL, or
(c) Collin McHugh if he is moved to the starting rotation or traded
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 12:23:18 GMT -6
I just didn't feel like I need Rolaids whenever Giles comes in a game. Didn't know you were that big a fan of Sir Squatsalot. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 13, 2018 17:28:01 GMT -6
On another thread someone mentioned the idea of adding Mike Minor as a long-man in the bullpen at the trade deadline.
Another reliever who might be available is Raisel Iglesias of the Reds. He was a Top-15 (or better, depending on the metric you look at) reliever last year and is dealing again to start this season.
The only two Astros relievers who seem to be struggling now are Joe Smith and Ken Giles. While I could envision one of those two guys having a bad season, the odds that both of them would have a bad season in the same year are pretty small. We're talking about guys with sub-3 ERAs. So if the Astros do acquire a reliever at the deadline, I'd imagine it's only one pitcher we are talking about, not two or three.
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 13, 2018 18:09:02 GMT -6
Another reliever who might be available is Raisel Iglesias of the Reds. He was a Top-15 (or better, depending on the metric you look at) reliever last year and is dealing again to start this season. Iglesias would be nice for the Astros to have, but I’m always wary about the cost of such players. We just need complementary pieces like Minor to ease the load on the usual go-to relievers. Sipp is just riding out the best contract he’ll ever have. The sooner you replace him the better. Britton would be nice too, but I don’t trust Angelos. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 13, 2018 21:57:47 GMT -6
Another reliever who might be available is Raisel Iglesias of the Reds. He was a Top-15 (or better, depending on the metric you look at) reliever last year and is dealing again to start this season. Iglesias would be nice for the Astros to have, but I’m always wary about the cost of such players. We just need complementary pieces like Minor to ease the load on the usual go-to relievers. Sipp is just riding out the best contract he’ll ever have. The sooner you replace him the better. Britton would be nice too, but I don’t trust Angelos. How much could Angelos truly ask for Britton...he maybe ready, after recovering from a major injury, and he is a pending FA...on a team that by no means should spend money on re-signing him. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Apr 13, 2018 23:53:59 GMT -6
Maybe he’ll get desperate and not ask for as much as before. We can only hope.
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