marshall
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Post by marshall on Jun 19, 2018 7:40:33 GMT -6
From mlbtr: “The Astros are maintaining interest in Orioles reliever Zach Britton, according to Cafardo. Houston agreed to acquire Britton prior to last year’s trade deadline, but the swap fell apart thanks to medical concerns the Orioles had regarding other players in the deal. The Astros went on to win a World Series without Britton, whose value took a hit over the winter when he suffered a ruptured Achilles. The impending free agent just came off the disabled list earlier this week and, with the Orioles well out of contention, is now auditioning for other teams as the July 31 non-waiver deadline nears. With a righty-heavy bullpen, the Astros may make sense for Britton, though southpaw Tony Sipp has enjoyed a bounce-back season and their relief corps has been elite versus left-handed hitters.” I just don't trust a pitcher coming off an Achilles rupture. I'd have to get a huge discount.
In 3 IP, he's given up a hit and three BB. Lack of control is what I worry about most for a pitcher coming off an Achilles and what I want most in a reliever.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 19, 2018 8:07:27 GMT -6
From mlbtr: “The Astros are maintaining interest in Orioles reliever Zach Britton, according to Cafardo. Houston agreed to acquire Britton prior to last year’s trade deadline, but the swap fell apart thanks to medical concerns the Orioles had regarding other players in the deal. The Astros went on to win a World Series without Britton, whose value took a hit over the winter when he suffered a ruptured Achilles. The impending free agent just came off the disabled list earlier this week and, with the Orioles well out of contention, is now auditioning for other teams as the July 31 non-waiver deadline nears. With a righty-heavy bullpen, the Astros may make sense for Britton, though southpaw Tony Sipp has enjoyed a bounce-back season and their relief corps has been elite versus left-handed hitters.” I just don't trust a pitcher coming off an Achilles rupture. I'd have to get a huge discount.
In 3 IP, he's given up a hit and three BB. Lack of control is what I worry about most for a pitcher coming off an Achilles and what I want most in a reliever.
I’m with you, Marshall. That’s a huge risk to take on if you’re Luhnow. Maybe the injury gives interested teams some sort of a discount. |
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Post by olpapa on Jun 19, 2018 8:12:37 GMT -6
From mlbtr: “The Astros are maintaining interest in Orioles reliever Zach Britton, according to Cafardo. Houston agreed to acquire Britton prior to last year’s trade deadline, but the swap fell apart thanks to medical concerns the Orioles had regarding other players in the deal. The Astros went on to win a World Series without Britton, whose value took a hit over the winter when he suffered a ruptured Achilles. The impending free agent just came off the disabled list earlier this week and, with the Orioles well out of contention, is now auditioning for other teams as the July 31 non-waiver deadline nears. With a righty-heavy bullpen, the Astros may make sense for Britton, though southpaw Tony Sipp has enjoyed a bounce-back season and their relief corps has been elite versus left-handed hitters.” I just don't trust a pitcher coming off an Achilles rupture. I'd have to get a huge discount.
In 3 IP, he's given up a hit and three BB. Lack of control is what I worry about most for a pitcher coming off an Achilles and what I want most in a reliever.
The 3 walks he allowed were all in his first inning pitched upon his return from the DL. In his last 2 appearances he struck out 2 and didn’t walk a batter. He hasn’t given up a run and his GO/AO ratio is 4.00. I agree with you. We should not pay a premium price for him. He is coming off achilles injury and will be a FA at the end of this season. If he is pitching well and healthy at the trade deadline and Luhnow can get him in exchange for some blocked minor league player(s) or minor league player(s) we stand to lose in the Rule 5 draft, I would be all for it. If we are going to pay a premium price, Hand would probably be the better target. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jun 19, 2018 9:39:22 GMT -6
Also his injury was to his push off leg, and if what I read was he had a total rip, it is a miracle he is even throwing from a mound. You are not only talking about throwing and the torque on the ankle, but also fielding your position.
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 19, 2018 9:58:05 GMT -6
The path to repeating is a lot easier without facing the Nationals. Not that I wish it on him, but isn't Harper bound to get hurt soon |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 19, 2018 10:04:22 GMT -6
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Post by Saint on Jun 19, 2018 10:20:25 GMT -6
Ha I swear I didn't remember that. It's true though. |
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Post by olpapa on Jun 19, 2018 10:38:34 GMT -6
Also his injury was to his push off leg, and if what I read was he had a total rip, it is a miracle he is even throwing from a mound. You are not only talking about throwing and the torque on the ankle, but also fielding your position. I’m thinking that at this point Luhnow should (and probably is) look at relief pitchers who have a history of matching up well against the Astros likely playoff opponents more so than which pitchers might help us get to the to the playoffs. I really think that, unless things change, the Yankees will be the most serious obstacle in the AL playoffs to the Astros returning to the WS. You are probably the board expert on the Yankees. Who are some of the relief pitchers who may be available and who have done well against the Yankees? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 19, 2018 11:16:05 GMT -6
Probably has no history against the Yankees, but, I still like the idea of Brad Hand in an Astros uniform.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 19, 2018 11:30:29 GMT -6
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Post by paastrosfan on Jun 19, 2018 11:35:00 GMT -6
Also his injury was to his push off leg, and if what I read was he had a total rip, it is a miracle he is even throwing from a mound. You are not only talking about throwing and the torque on the ankle, but also fielding your position. I’m thinking that at this point Luhnow should (and probably is) look at relief pitchers who have a history of matching up well against the Astros likely playoff opponents more so than which pitchers might help us get to the to the playoffs. I really think that, unless things change, the Yankees will be the most serious obstacle in the AL playoffs to the Astros returning to the WS. You are probably the board expert on the Yankees. Who are some of the relief pitchers who may be available and who have done well against the Yankees? My two dream picks would be Rob Gsellman---Mets and Roberto Osuna of the Blue Jays. Of those two maybe Gsellman could be a chance at, if talk around NY is the Mets throwing DeGrom and Thor around, who knows the Mets have to do something. On lesser sides Danny Barnes Blue Jays, also Dennis Tepera a Texas guy, but up there in age. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 19, 2018 11:39:54 GMT -6
Based on stats alone, I (like PA Fan) really liked the idea of the Astros picking up Osuna. But now, he is caught up in legal proceedings about an assault charge www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2018/06/18/blue-jays-closer-roberto-osuna-plead-not-guilty-assault-charge/711287002/ and it looks like no one wants to touch him. I've got no idea who is wrong or right, and there's no sense in convicting a guy before he's had a proper trial, but Osuna's situation is probably too complicated for him to be a viable candidate for the Astros pitching staff now. Gsellman is interesting, definitely. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 19, 2018 11:41:21 GMT -6
I've always liked Osuna, but some'd probly have a problem with his arrest history
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Post by Saint on Jun 19, 2018 12:02:20 GMT -6
The only Osuna I want.  |
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Post by olpapa on Jun 19, 2018 12:05:54 GMT -6
I’m thinking that at this point Luhnow should (and probably is) look at relief pitchers who have a history of matching up well against the Astros likely playoff opponents more so than which pitchers might help us get to the to the playoffs. I really think that, unless things change, the Yankees will be the most serious obstacle in the AL playoffs to the Astros returning to the WS. You are probably the board expert on the Yankees. Who are some of the relief pitchers who may be available and who have done well against the Yankees? My two dream picks would be Rob Gsellman---Mets and Roberto Osuna of the Blue Jays. Of those two maybe Gsellman could be a chance at, if talk around NY is the Mets throwing DeGrom and Thor around, who knows the Mets have to do something. On lesser sides Danny Barnes Blue Jays, also Dennis Tepera a Texas guy, but up there in age. Looks like Brach has been tough on the Yankees and Red Sox the last couple years. Britton, when healthy, has been tough on the Yankees, Red Sox and Indians. If Britton continues to pitch effectively and is healthy at the deadline, I have a feeling Luhnow will try to deal for him. Maybe get Brach included. Hand would sure look good in an Astros uniform this year and going forward. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jun 19, 2018 12:11:21 GMT -6
My two dream picks would be Rob Gsellman---Mets and Roberto Osuna of the Blue Jays. Of those two maybe Gsellman could be a chance at, if talk around NY is the Mets throwing DeGrom and Thor around, who knows the Mets have to do something. On lesser sides Danny Barnes Blue Jays, also Dennis Tepera a Texas guy, but up there in age. Looks like Brach has been tough on the Yankees and Red Sox the last couple years. Britton, when healthy, has been tough on the Yankees, Red Sox and Indians. If Britton continues to pitch effectively and is healthy at the deadline, I have a feeling Luhnow will try to deal for him. Maybe get Brach included. Hand would sure look good in an Astros uniform this year and going forward. In a way I am sure we are all glad the Britton trade fell through last season, or JV wouldn't have been here. Following the injury of people posting here, that injury can be lingering. Buck's boys usually give the Yankees a run no matter what the record. |
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Post by olpapa on Jun 19, 2018 12:17:27 GMT -6
Looks like Brach has been tough on the Yankees and Red Sox the last couple years. Britton, when healthy, has been tough on the Yankees, Red Sox and Indians. If Britton continues to pitch effectively and is healthy at the deadline, I have a feeling Luhnow will try to deal for him. Maybe get Brach included. Hand would sure look good in an Astros uniform this year and going forward. In a way I am sure we are all glad the Britton trade fell through last season, or JV wouldn't have been here. Following the injury of people posting here, that injury can be lingering. Buck's boys usually give the Yankees a run no matter what the record. If a rational man had been calling the shots for the Orioles at the trade deadline last year, we likely would not have got JV. Thankfully Angelos was in charge. I guess he still is. Who knows what he might expect in return for Britton and/or Brach. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jun 19, 2018 12:21:58 GMT -6
My two dream picks would be Rob Gsellman---Mets and Roberto Osuna of the Blue Jays. Of those two maybe Gsellman could be a chance at, if talk around NY is the Mets throwing DeGrom and Thor around, who knows the Mets have to do something. On lesser sides Danny Barnes Blue Jays, also Dennis Tepera a Texas guy, but up there in age. Looks like Brach has been tough on the Yankees and Red Sox the last couple years. Britton, when healthy, has been tough on the Yankees, Red Sox and Indians. If Britton continues to pitch effectively and is healthy at the deadline, I have a feeling Luhnow will try to deal for him. Maybe get Brach included. Hand would sure look good in an Astros uniform this year and going forward. The pressure is on the O's owner, with the tight races in each league, he should play it right, because the offers should be too good not to pass up. The thing is will Jeff take him serious this time around after the fiasco last season. |
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Post by olpapa on Jun 19, 2018 12:27:14 GMT -6
Looks like Brach has been tough on the Yankees and Red Sox the last couple years. Britton, when healthy, has been tough on the Yankees, Red Sox and Indians. If Britton continues to pitch effectively and is healthy at the deadline, I have a feeling Luhnow will try to deal for him. Maybe get Brach included. Hand would sure look good in an Astros uniform this year and going forward. The pressure is on the O's owner, with the tight races in each league, he should play it right, because the offers should be too good not to pass up. The thing is will Jeff take him serious this time around after the fiasco last season. True. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jun 19, 2018 13:05:08 GMT -6
MLB Network today saying the Astros may go for Raisel Iglesias for the pen or Jose Abreu for 1B.
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marshall
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Post by marshall on Jun 19, 2018 13:09:46 GMT -6
Looks like Brach has been tough on the Yankees and Red Sox the last couple years. Britton, when healthy, has been tough on the Yankees, Red Sox and Indians. If Britton continues to pitch effectively and is healthy at the deadline, I have a feeling Luhnow will try to deal for him. Maybe get Brach included. Hand would sure look good in an Astros uniform this year and going forward. The pressure is on the O's owner, with the tight races in each league, he should play it right, because the offers should be too good not to pass up. The thing is will Jeff take him serious this time around after the fiasco last season. But remember, we're not talking about a rational GM. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 19, 2018 13:15:28 GMT -6
The pressure is on the O's owner, with the tight races in each league, he should play it right, because the offers should be too good not to pass up. The thing is will Jeff take him serious this time around after the fiasco last season. But remember, we're not talking about a rational GM. The Orioles owner is the guy who is irrational. For them to expect a lot for an often-injured Britton would be irrational. |
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Post by m240 on Jun 19, 2018 13:27:44 GMT -6
MLB Network today saying the Astros may go for Raisel Iglesias for the pen or Jose Abreu for 1B. we have the ability to get both, sounds good to me |
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Post by Saint on Jun 19, 2018 13:33:42 GMT -6
MLB Network today saying the Astros may go for Raisel Iglesias for the pen or Jose Abreu for 1B. If we did get Abreu, where do you shuffle Gurriel/Gattis? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jun 19, 2018 13:38:39 GMT -6
Not that I wish it on him, but isn't Harper bound to get hurt soon My league is roto...OBP, HR. RBI, R, and SB. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 19, 2018 13:38:57 GMT -6
MLB Network today saying the Astros may go for Raisel Iglesias for the pen or Jose Abreu for 1B. If we did get Abreu, where do you shuffle Gurriel/Gattis? that would be my question. I like Abreu but why do we need another first baseman? Go after a hitter who is an outfielder. |
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Post by Saint on Jun 19, 2018 13:45:48 GMT -6
In theory you could move Bregman to LF and Gurriel to 3B for the remainder of the year. Abreu is not a good defensive 1B though and should probably be DHing. So do you take ABs away from Gattis who has virtually an identical OPS+ right now? And then probably not bring Gattis or Marwin back next year.
I was totally rooting for an Abreu signing earlier, but now it requires more thought. As much as I like Gurriel, he's the least valuable player out of all of those potentially involved, but he is also under contract for two more seasons.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jun 19, 2018 15:16:21 GMT -6
MLB Network today saying the Astros may go for Raisel Iglesias for the pen or Jose Abreu for 1B. 👍 |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jun 19, 2018 15:32:16 GMT -6
i am not for dumping Gurriel or Gattis. We need bullpen help, preferably a left-hander. Iglesias would be a good addition, but, he's another right-hander. He is under contract until 2021. He has also been a frequent resident of the DL. Check with the Padres about Hand
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Post by bearbryant on Jun 19, 2018 16:13:55 GMT -6
isn't Harper batting like .217 this year My league is roto...OBP, HR. RBI, R, and SB. |
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