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Post by nathangarza29 on Jul 20, 2018 19:33:08 GMT -6
The Astros have had a hard on for Abreu since he first popped up. But you already have mo es tied into that position and Abreu really isn't showing enough overall. I mean dont get me wrong you pull some help with that trade you could change a mind or 2. But. OF A.Garcia and or Jokiam Soria it might intrigue some teams. But Abreu isn't better then Yuli. And would not push him off 1B. Only think you could consider is moving Yuli but why?  |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jul 20, 2018 19:34:19 GMT -6
I agree Kemp should be playing and let tucker split at Dh and every other day in lf and rf back and forth see if he can get his bat going At least till his bat comes around. I mean he is decent in the field but if you have a bat that's hot dontnpull it just because |
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 20, 2018 19:34:30 GMT -6
This would be another reason why I think Tucker should be available if the wright player is offered. I'll circle around again Eddie Rosario would be well worth a look
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 20, 2018 19:37:35 GMT -6
Tuckeer is not available and neither is Whitley and neither should be......All other prospects and Giles should be included in the right trades.
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 20, 2018 19:40:55 GMT -6
The Astros have had a hard on for Abreu since he first popped up. But you already have mo es tied into that position and Abreu really isn't showing enough overall. I mean dont get me wrong you pull some help with that trade you could change a mind or 2. But. OF A.Garcia and or Jokiam Soria it might intrigue some teams. But Abreu isn't better then Yuli. And would not push him off 1B. Only think you could consider is moving Yuli but why?
for now .. that he winds up putting the finishing touches on during Christmas break |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 20, 2018 19:47:26 GMT -6
The Astros have had a hard on for Abreu since he first popped up. But you already have mo es tied into that position and Abreu really isn't showing enough overall. I mean dont get me wrong you pull some help with that trade you could change a mind or 2. But. OF A.Garcia and or Jokiam Soria it might intrigue some teams. But Abreu isn't better then Yuli. And would not push him off 1B. Only think you could consider is moving Yuli but why?
for now .. that he winds up putting the finishing touches on during Christmas breakObviously, I am pro Abreu, but I am also pro Jose Martinez, Merrifield, A. Garcia as well...Gattis is a streaky, expiring FA....And of course, a bullpen arm or two.... |
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Post by Saint on Jul 20, 2018 19:48:21 GMT -6
"Funny thing is no one even sees the fact that Realmuto is the clear way to go and to sacrifice one of Tucker or Alvarez is the clear choice. Sorry it's just a positive route." It's ONE route to go. I don't know that it's the best route. A catcher upgrade would be nice, but you're acting like he's a known superstar with no risk. Before this year he was only a 105 OPS+ hitter, and after this season you only have him guaranteed for two more years. Now is all of that valuable in a catcher? Sure. Is it worth trading multiple good prospects when you have a AAA catcher with potential and a current MLB catcher that is doing well already? Probably not. Not when there other areas you can upgrade for less that would likely have a bigger impact right now. LF & 1B are our weakest hitting positions by far. Not Catcher. I was way more interested in Ramos. Better hitting history and he would have been cheaper and wouldn't block Stassi or Stubbs next year. Excuse me, but, how is 1B one of our weakest hitting positions when Gurriel is hitting over .300 and has the best numbers in baseball with runners in scoring position? Stuff called OBP and SLG. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 20, 2018 19:50:18 GMT -6
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 20, 2018 19:55:46 GMT -6
unionstation82, you need to change your avatar...I keep confusing you with Voodoo. 
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 20, 2018 20:00:56 GMT -6
Abreu's probably gonna have a monster 2019 with the bat based on how disappointing he's been this year. I hope this is one of Luhnow's exploratory considerations
for now .. that he winds up putting the finishing touches on during Christmas break Obviously, I am pro Abreu, but I am also pro Jose Martinez, Merrifield, A. Garcia as well...Gattis is a streaky, expiring FA....And of course, a bullpen arm or two....
much sense to me unless we go big for someone who can replace Correa's production in the lineup worst case scenario permitting. Realmuto and Choo are the only
bats I see capable of doing that unless I'm missing someone |
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 20, 2018 20:02:23 GMT -6
I've seen several baseball writers outside the Houston street beat say the same thing
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 20, 2018 20:08:16 GMT -6
I’m not sure. Another big question is what do we do with Kemp? I didn’t realize how complicated the Tucker situation makes everything. Without him, it’s easier to say play Kemp everyday. Kemp at the very least should be the de facto backup outfielder, but their lack of belief in his defense keeps Marisnick on the roster. I don’t know what they should do to make things less murky. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 20, 2018 20:08:55 GMT -6
This would be another reason why I think Tucker should be available if the wright player is offered. I'll circle around again Eddie Rosario would be well worth a look We’re already wanting to trade Tucker? |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 20, 2018 20:12:44 GMT -6
No. Tucker stays.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 20, 2018 20:14:40 GMT -6
I didn’t realize how complicated the Tucker situation makes everything. Without him, it’s easier to say play Kemp everyday. Kemp at the very least should be the de facto backup outfielder, but their lack of belief in his defense keeps Marisnick on the roster. I don’t know what they should do to make things less murky. Luckily, Marisnick isn't on the roster...they smartly didn't bring him up in place of White (he still lacks a couple of days on the required time at AAA before recall, but I choose to believe they smartened up...) |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 20, 2018 20:15:32 GMT -6
This would be another reason why I think Tucker should be available if the wright player is offered. I'll circle around again Eddie Rosario would be well worth a look We’re already wanting to trade Tucker? No, son...that's Voodoo. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 20, 2018 20:16:03 GMT -6
I didn’t even know Jake was still in AAA. That’s good.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 20, 2018 20:19:50 GMT -6
Obviously, I am pro Abreu, but I am also pro Jose Martinez, Merrifield, A. Garcia as well...Gattis is a streaky, expiring FA....And of course, a bullpen arm or two....
much sense to me unless we go big for someone who can replace Correa's production in the lineup worst case scenario permitting. Realmuto and Choo are the only
bats I see capable of doing that unless I'm missing someoneWell on the pretense the Astros may not be the only suitor for Merrifield. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 20, 2018 20:24:50 GMT -6
Excuse me, but, how is 1B one of our weakest hitting positions when Gurriel is hitting over .300 and has the best numbers in baseball with runners in scoring position? Stuff called OBP and SLG. I'll take the .300 average and driving in clutch runs over your two stats. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 20, 2018 20:31:22 GMT -6
We’re already wanting to trade Tucker? No, son...that's Voodoo. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jul 20, 2018 20:48:46 GMT -6
I think Kemp should play. I also think we should aim for a Premium position player if we want a bat. I.E . Catcher.
If we go after a bat that an OF Eddie Rosario would be a direction I would aim.
But I would also look into A. GARCIA from the White sox.
Conley then Britton in the Relief market.
But only way I move Alveraz or Tucker is for Realmuto or Degrom. And you can count out degrom unless the Astros added McCullers to the trade to the Mets. They will get a sky rocket deal for him if he is traded
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 20, 2018 21:08:36 GMT -6
I think Kemp should play. I also think we should aim for a Premium position player if we want a bat. I.E . Catcher. If we go after a bat that an OF Eddie Rosario would be a direction I would aim. But I would also look into A. GARCIA from the White sox. Conley then Britton in the Relief market. But only way I move Alveraz or Tucker is for Realmuto or Degrom. And you can count out degrom unless the Astros added McCullers to the trade to the Mets. They will get a sky rocket deal for him if he is traded Tucker is not leaving...neither is Whitley.... |
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Post by Saint on Jul 20, 2018 21:13:03 GMT -6
Stuff called OBP and SLG. I'll take the .300 average and driving in clutch runs over your two stats. Okay. I wasn't saying Gurriel wasn't doing okay. He is. But it's one of our weaker positions overall if we wanted to upgrade. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 20, 2018 23:22:28 GMT -6
I'll take the .300 average and driving in clutch runs over your two stats. Okay. I wasn't saying Gurriel wasn't doing okay. He is. But it's one of our weaker positions overall if we wanted to upgrade. i agree that we need to upgrade LF. Tucker will be great, but, he is over-matched right now. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 20, 2018 23:33:08 GMT -6
I'll take the .300 average and driving in clutch runs over your two stats. Okay. I wasn't saying Gurriel wasn't doing okay. He is. But it's one of our weaker positions overall if we wanted to upgrade. Weaker than LF? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 21, 2018 0:00:11 GMT -6
Yuli's hitting is not a problem or a weakness. We need to upgrade LF because Tucker doesn't look ready at this tiem. We also need another catcher.
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Post by m240 on Jul 21, 2018 7:16:23 GMT -6
It is hard to believe that we will make a trade that would include any of our top 7 prospects
Whitley
Tucker
Alvarez
Perez
Beer
Martin
Stubbs
That still leaves a lot of trade pieces:
Kemp
White
Davis
Reed
Armenteros
Martes
Paulino
Deetz
Straw
Quintana
Bielak,Solis, Soloman, Sandoval, Hernandez
We should be able to cobble enough value out 7 or 8 of that second group to land Britton and Castellanos.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 21, 2018 8:14:06 GMT -6
Bukauskas?
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 21, 2018 8:17:10 GMT -6
It is hard to believe that we will make a trade that would include any of our top 7 prospects Whitley Tucker Alvarez Perez Beer Martin Stubbs That still leaves a lot of trade pieces: Kemp White Davis Reed Armenteros Martes Paulino Deetz Straw Quintana Bielak,Solis, Soloman, Sandoval, Hernandez We should be able to cobble enough value out 7 or 8 of that second group to land Britton and Castellanos. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 21, 2018 8:21:46 GMT -6
I checked out the box score of the Rangers/Indians game last night. When did the Padres throw Hand and Cimber to the Rangers? That seemed to be quiet news.
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