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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 22, 2018 12:31:35 GMT -6
I'm down for Conley and Yates. I wanna see this big bat Lunhow is shopping for. Hinch says they won't make any trades but lunhow says Reliever and Big Bat. Radios tuned in. Hinch better be wrong about no trades being made if he wants to have a chance to repeat as WS champs. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 22, 2018 12:34:43 GMT -6
Here's a story on 5 relief pitchers that would fit the Astros bill. Not elite but I would say better than most of our middle relief maybe even as good as the better ones. www.mlb.com/news/pressly-conley-yates-are-relievers-to-know/c-286520030?tid=282421090I think the coaching staff especially Brent Strom could really help of a couple of those guys. After reading what was said about this guy Barraclough, I really think Brent Strom could help him with the walk issue. I would think of those two the Astros would be most interested in Pressly and Conley. If we bring in a reliever.....and we should......it needs to be a guy with experience who would be an improvement over what we have. I can't see any of the guys on that list being a sure improvement. |
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Post by koolade2 on Jul 22, 2018 14:57:40 GMT -6
Hinch has a problem with sticking with Players. It's good to be loyal and that gets the guys behind you. There does come a time when some of the players can no longer produce. All ML Players understand it's a business and the Goal is to win. Sometimes your friend just no longer has it or needs a change of scenery.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 22, 2018 16:10:52 GMT -6
I could see teams wanting Perez in any trade we may make.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 22, 2018 16:17:31 GMT -6
I could see teams wanting Perez in any trade we may make. I like what I am seeing from Perez......we may need to keep him. We must get a catcher.......Federowicz has no business on a major league roster. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jul 22, 2018 16:34:49 GMT -6
What about a pirates trade of Corey Dickerson, Richard Rodriguiz and Felipe Vasquez?
We would have to include a Bullpen arm or two back. But would be an all in one trade
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 22, 2018 17:07:01 GMT -6
I mean if this game doesn’t show you we need bullpen help....
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 22, 2018 17:16:47 GMT -6
I mean if this game doesn’t show you we need bullpen help.... If Luhnow watched this game and does nothing with the pen, he is not doing his job. You can't keep relying on Harris and Devenski has been bad for awhile now. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 22, 2018 17:22:35 GMT -6
I mean if this game doesn’t show you we need bullpen help.... If Luhnow watched this game and does nothing with the pen, he is not doing his job. You can't keep relying on Harris and Devenski has been bad for awhile now. Harris and Devenski are good relievers, but they have big ups and downs in pressure situations. Neither stepped up to be the closer when given the opportunity, and now they’re fading earlier than usual, especially Harris. |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 22, 2018 17:24:49 GMT -6
Latest on Britton from MLBTR: “8:44pm: It’s “at least” a six-team race for Britton, Jon Heyman of Fancred tweets. 8:14pm: The Orioles are seeking a return equal to or better than the one the Royals received for reliever Kelvin Herrera in a trade last month, Buster Olney of ESPN reports. Washington acquired Herrera for three prospects, though none ranked among the Nationals’ absolute best farmhands at the time. 7:39pm: Both the Cubs and the Astros “are trying to match up prospects with the Orioles,” Jerry Crasnick of ESPN tweets. The Dodgers are also among those who would like to acquire Britton, Dan Connolly of The Athletic reports, though Rosenthal notes that it may be difficult because of LA’s desire to stay under the luxury-tax threshold. No matter where Britton goes, the O’s hope to make a deal happen within the next few days, Crasnick adds.” If it comes down to the Astros and Cubs, Houston has a strong enough farm system that they should be able to beat any deal the Cubs can offer if neither team trades any of their best prospects. Latest on Britton from MLBTR: “SUNDAY, 3:48pm: The Rockies and Brewers are also in the mix, Heyman tweets. 1:38pm: There are indeed teams ahead of the Dodgers in Britton talks, per Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com, who lists the Astros, Cubs and Red Sox as being “more active” than LA.” David Stearns is starting to get on my nerves. |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 22, 2018 19:10:58 GMT -6
Latest on Britton from MLBTR: “8:44pm: It’s “at least” a six-team race for Britton, Jon Heyman of Fancred tweets. 8:14pm: The Orioles are seeking a return equal to or better than the one the Royals received for reliever Kelvin Herrera in a trade last month, Buster Olney of ESPN reports. Washington acquired Herrera for three prospects, though none ranked among the Nationals’ absolute best farmhands at the time. 7:39pm: Both the Cubs and the Astros “are trying to match up prospects with the Orioles,” Jerry Crasnick of ESPN tweets. The Dodgers are also among those who would like to acquire Britton, Dan Connolly of The Athletic reports, though Rosenthal notes that it may be difficult because of LA’s desire to stay under the luxury-tax threshold. No matter where Britton goes, the O’s hope to make a deal happen within the next few days, Crasnick adds.” If it comes down to the Astros and Cubs, Houston has a strong enough farm system that they should be able to beat any deal the Cubs can offer if neither team trades any of their best prospects. Latest on Britton from MLBTR: “SUNDAY, 3:48pm: The Rockies and Brewers are also in the mix, Heyman tweets. 1:38pm: There are indeed teams ahead of the Dodgers in Britton talks, per Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com, who lists the Astros, Cubs and Red Sox as being “more active” than LA.” David Stearns is starting to get on my nerves. Latest on Britton from MLBTR: ”SUNDAY, 8:01pm: Last year’s failed Britton trade talks between the Astros and Orioles won’t play any factor in this year’s negotiations, The Athletic’s Jim Bowden tweets. A source tells Bowden that Houston is “all in” on acquiring Britton.” If Luhnow is truly “all in” on Britton, he will get him. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 22, 2018 19:31:14 GMT -6
Latest on Britton from MLBTR: “SUNDAY, 3:48pm: The Rockies and Brewers are also in the mix, Heyman tweets. 1:38pm: There are indeed teams ahead of the Dodgers in Britton talks, per Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com, who lists the Astros, Cubs and Red Sox as being “more active” than LA.” David Stearns is starting to get on my nerves. Latest on Britton from MLBTR: ”SUNDAY, 8:01pm: Last year’s failed Britton trade talks between the Astros and Orioles won’t play any factor in this year’s negotiations, The Athletic’s Jim Bowden tweets. A source tells Bowden that Houston is “all in” on acquiring Britton.” If Luhnow is truly “all in” on Britton, he will get him. Luhnow knows we have the prospects to get Britton and can make the Orioles the best offer. If he wants him, he gets him. I hope he doesn't stop with getting Britton. |
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Post by m240 on Jul 22, 2018 19:41:04 GMT -6
Latest on Britton from MLBTR: “SUNDAY, 3:48pm: The Rockies and Brewers are also in the mix, Heyman tweets. 1:38pm: There are indeed teams ahead of the Dodgers in Britton talks, per Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com, who lists the Astros, Cubs and Red Sox as being “more active” than LA.” David Stearns is starting to get on my nerves. Latest on Britton from MLBTR: ”SUNDAY, 8:01pm: Last year’s failed Britton trade talks between the Astros and Orioles won’t play any factor in this year’s negotiations, The Athletic’s Jim Bowden tweets. A source tells Bowden that Houston is “all in” on acquiring Britton.” If Luhnow is truly “all in” on Britton, he will get him. Overpaying for Britton makes sense, grossly overpaying does not. The good thing is that the Cubs do not have the pool to draw on, the Brewers do most definitely do, and depending on who you believe so do the Rockies. So stay tuned folks it is going to get interesting. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 22, 2018 20:37:04 GMT -6
I’m not a fan of overpaying for Britton, yet there was the comedy duo of Harris and Devenski today. I wouldn’t envy being Luhnow right now.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 22, 2018 20:49:51 GMT -6
I’m not a fan of overpaying for Britton, yet there was the comedy duo of Harris and Devenski today. I wouldn’t envy being Luhnow right now. luhnow knows he has to improve the pen.......the Orioles know it, too. which means we are going to have to pay for Britton. The only players I tbink Luhnow protects are Whitley and Tucker. I keep hoping he can put Giles in the deal since he is relatively young and controllable for a few years. I also hope they are interested in White and Reed,but, I think we will have to include one of our top pitching prospects other than Whitley to get Britton. I hope Luhnow isn't satisfied with the catching we will have in the playoffs if McCann can't come back. We need help there. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jul 22, 2018 21:27:21 GMT -6
I would hope not either. I wouldnt over pay for Britton but I'm truly intereasted in seeing what bat catches luhnow eye.
Hince why I keep saying Avisail Garcia since the White Sox wanna hold Jose Abreu.
And Realmuto since if your gonna pay a catcher 10m plus I'd rather it be Realmuto then McCann
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 22, 2018 22:02:12 GMT -6
I would hope not either. I wouldnt over pay for Britton but I'm truly intereasted in seeing what bat catches luhnow eye. Hince why I keep saying Avisail Garcia since the White Sox wanna hold Jose Abreu. And Realmuto since if your gonna pay a catcher 10m plus I'd rather it be Realmuto then McCann If you get Garcia, who gets the short end: Kemp, Gattis, or Tucker? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 22, 2018 22:24:14 GMT -6
I would hope not either. I wouldnt over pay for Britton but I'm truly intereasted in seeing what bat catches luhnow eye. Hince why I keep saying Avisail Garcia since the White Sox wanna hold Jose Abreu. And Realmuto since if your gonna pay a catcher 10m plus I'd rather it be Realmuto then McCann If Luhnow can land Britton and Realmuto, he has more than strengthened us. He makes us a clear favorite to repeat. I am greedy....I want him to get Adam Jones included in a deal for Britton. I know i am dreaming,but no harm in hoping for the best. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 22, 2018 22:25:31 GMT -6
I would hope not either. I wouldnt over pay for Britton but I'm truly intereasted in seeing what bat catches luhnow eye. Hince why I keep saying Avisail Garcia since the White Sox wanna hold Jose Abreu. And Realmuto since if your gonna pay a catcher 10m plus I'd rather it be Realmuto then McCann If you get Garcia, who gets the short end: Kemp, Gattis, or Tucker? If that happened, I would not be surprised if Kemp is included in the deal. If Luhnow trades Tucker, I will be shocked. |
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Post by marshall on Jul 23, 2018 2:34:19 GMT -6
I would hope not either. I wouldnt over pay for Britton but I'm truly intereasted in seeing what bat catches luhnow eye. Hince why I keep saying Avisail Garcia since the White Sox wanna hold Jose Abreu. And Realmuto since if your gonna pay a catcher 10m plus I'd rather it be Realmuto then McCann If Luhnow can land Britton and Realmuto, he has more than strengthened us. He makes us a clear favorite to repeat. I am greedy....I want him to get Adam Jones included in a deal for Britton. I know i am dreaming,but no harm in hoping for the best. You can't look at just what we'd get to say whether we'd be stronger of not. There are two sides to that equation. You could even pay too much for Trout, if the cost is too high. It's like getting a cadillac. It's a nicer car than your chevy if you want a straight up trade. But if your chevy is paid for and the Cadillac will cost you $1 Million dollars, you don't make that trade.
You have to know how much the upgrade is worth to you to see if it's a good move or not.
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Post by olpapa on Jul 23, 2018 5:50:53 GMT -6
More on Britton from mlb.com:
“July 22: According to MLB Network insider Jon Heyman via Twitter, the field of teams pursuing Orioles closer Zach Britton is "expanding," with the Astros, Cubs, Dodgers, Yankees, Braves, Rockies and Brewers among those in the mix. The Phillies and Red Sox have also been linked to Britton. A deal could come quickly, as a source told The Athletic (subscription required) that the O's would ideally like to conclude negotiations by the middle of this week.”
I’ll be watching the box scores and game logs of our minor league teams from now until August 1 for players being left out of the starting lineup or being removed mid-game. Garrett Stubbs was removed in the 5th inning of Fresno’s game last night after going 2-2 with a double in his only 2 at bats. The game log indicated that there was a injury delay when the Grizzlies went to the field for the bottom of the 5th and Stubbs was taken out of the game. No mention of him being injured in the wrap up article after the game.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jul 23, 2018 7:13:06 GMT -6
According to league sources the Orioles are getting asked about package
Britton and Gausman
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Britton and Bundy
I like the second one better
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jul 23, 2018 7:29:55 GMT -6
According to league sources the Orioles are getting asked about package Britton and Gausman Or Britton and Bundy I like the second one better That would almost be a Forrest Whitley package. Bundy under the guidance of Strom might be interesting and would almost certainly mean Keuchal is gone this offseason and or McCullers to the pen |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 7:49:21 GMT -6
According to league sources the Orioles are getting asked about package Britton and Gausman Or Britton and Bundy I like the second one better That would almost be a Forrest Whitley package. Pfffffffff!!! |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jul 23, 2018 8:02:24 GMT -6
That would almost be a Forrest Whitley package. Pfffffffff!!! You day that but dont get it twisted thinking it cant. I wish it wouldnt but I wouldnt push it past Lunhow |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 23, 2018 8:09:34 GMT -6
I would think of those two the Astros would be most interested in Pressly and Conley. If we bring in a reliever.....and we should......it needs to be a guy with experience who would be an improvement over what we have. I can't see any of the guys on that list being a sure improvement. Sometimes people are more game than name...i.e. Luhnow signing of Charlie Morton |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 23, 2018 8:13:12 GMT -6
You day that but dont get it twisted thinking it cant. I wish it wouldnt but I wouldnt push it past Lunhow |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 23, 2018 8:40:25 GMT -6
You day that but dont get it twisted thinking it cant. I wish it wouldnt but I wouldnt push it past Lunhow Hmmmmm. Ok. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 9:00:52 GMT -6
You day that but dont get it twisted thinking it cant. I wish it wouldnt but I wouldnt push it past Lunhow You mean the same Jeff Luhnow who was the architect of the 2017 WS champions, and built an MLB organization that is the envy of the rest of the league?  |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 23, 2018 9:26:51 GMT -6
You day that but dont get it twisted thinking it cant. I wish it wouldnt but I wouldnt push it past Lunhow O tay |
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