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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 24, 2018 22:43:33 GMT -6
Ah, so YOU are the one who's going to replace Marshall. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 24, 2018 22:44:38 GMT -6
So much for Springer coming out of his doldrums. You must have posted this before he smoked his bomb. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 24, 2018 23:25:25 GMT -6
Now that the yankees got Britton and ended that drama, it's time for Luhnow to concentrate on getting Iglesius from the Reds. I would also do all I could to get Realmuto without giving up top 4 prospect. Getting him would probably mean Stubbs is in the deal. Getting those two would solve big problems.
My guess is the Yankees thought they could not get a quality starting pitcher so they decided to lengthen the pen........Put Robertson, Britton, Betances, and Chapman and that is a tough group that can shorten lots of games.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 24, 2018 23:37:20 GMT -6
Now that the yankees got Britton and ended that drama, it's time for Luhnow to concentrate on getting Iglesius from the Reds. I would also do all I could to get Realmuto without giving up top 4 prospect. Getting him would probably mean Stubbs is in the deal. Getting those two would solve big problems. Stubbs sat out today's AAA game. I'm not inclined to read too much into it since Ritchie starts a lot of games anyway. But maybe, Stubbs will be on the move soon. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 24, 2018 23:52:30 GMT -6
Now that the yankees got Britton and ended that drama, it's time for Luhnow to concentrate on getting Iglesius from the Reds. I would also do all I could to get Realmuto without giving up top 4 prospect. Getting him would probably mean Stubbs is in the deal. Getting those two would solve big problems. Stubbs sat out today's AAA game. I'm not inclined to read too much into it since Ritchie starts a lot of games anyway. But maybe, Stubbs will be on the move soon. I think the only way Stubbs goes is if Luhnow gets Realmuto in the deal........I would do that NOW |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 0:41:32 GMT -6
Britton just said hopefully it's not the last time he plays in Baltimore.
Sounds like he wants to go back once this year is done. A true rental deal.
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Post by olpapa on Jul 25, 2018 4:30:13 GMT -6
I think the kid has a lot of promise so I’d be worried if he was dealt. No doubt that AJ has mismanaged the bullpen on more than one occasion this year. |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 25, 2018 5:07:37 GMT -6
Usually come trade deadline .. there's a top player available that's worthy of a top prospect. I don't think that's the case this year though with most of the available
trade targets. That's why I think we should go big for someone like Realmuto if we have the blue chips to deal that none of the other contenders do Bear, with Correa’s availability for the remainder of the season in question and considering how inconsistent the offense has been, I’m inclined to come over to your way of thinking on this issue. Another bullpen arm would be nice, but I think it is imperative that we add a bat, if we hope to repeat this year. Realmuto is not your typical catcher. I read somewhere that he was a shortstop before he was converted to a catcher. He has played 15 games at first base in 2017-2018 and handled 109 total chances without making an error. The guy can hit, field and run. If we could pry him loose from Miami, if/when Correa is unable to play, he could play first base with Yuli moving over to third and Bregman could play SS while Marwin “Let me take a shot at bunting here with two strikes on me” Gonzalez sat on the pine. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 25, 2018 5:41:41 GMT -6
The Astros' ability to win without Correa has been impressive this year, in light of their difficulty in doing so last year.
Luhnow might be betting that so long as Correa can be back by September and make the postseason, this offense will go from being s 100-ish wRC+ offense (with poor BABIP luck) to being a 120-ish wRC+ offense in the postseason (with ordinary BABIP luck).
The weak offensive links at this point look to be Federowicz, McCann, Marwin, Davis, Marisnick, and Fisher. Parenthetically, Gattis.
Realmuto would solve the problem of two of those guys. I think Tucker will solve for Fisher/Marisnick, and White could solve some part of the Marwin/Gattis problem.
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Post by olpapa on Jul 25, 2018 6:00:43 GMT -6
Here is a scenario I’m thinking might come to pass. Josh Donaldson has been out with a calf injury since May 29. He will be a free agent at the end of this season. He struggled with injuries in 2017 and so far in 2018 so his numbers are way down from what he posted prior to last season. Last thing I read about him indicated that he would likely return after the July 31st non-waiver trade deadline. No doubt in my mind that the Blue Jays will put Donaldson on waivers....before he has had time to play enough to prove that he is healthy....and he will clear waivers, because no team will want to take a chance on claiming him and having Toronto give him to them, in which case the claiming team would have to pay the remainder of what is owed to him under his contract for this season. Once he clears waivers, Toronto is free to trade him to any team they want to. If Donaldson returns healthy next month, you can bet he is going to be playing his tail off for the rest of this season in order to improve his value in free agency this offseason. Donaldson’s trade value should be minimal when he returns. If Correa is still experiencing problems with his back in late August and If Donaldson clears waivers and returns soon enough to play two or three weeks and prove to be healthy and productive before August 31, would you trade for him if you were the GM? I had thought about that same scenario as well. I think you have to consider it. Even if Correa comes back great, he can DH. Just saw this from an article on the Blue Jays posted last night on MLBTR: “None of that even touches on perhaps the team’s most enigmatic trade piece — third baseman Josh Donaldson. At this point, it’s not clear that Donaldson will return before the non-waiver deadline. The remainder of his $23MM salary will assuredly clear waivers next month, meaning he’ll have a bit of time to prove he can return to form and showcase himself for contending clubs before the Aug. 31 deadline for postseason eligibility.” |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 25, 2018 6:03:46 GMT -6
Usually come trade deadline .. there's a top player available that's worthy of a top prospect. I don't think that's the case this year though with most of the available
trade targets. That's why I think we should go big for someone like Realmuto if we have the blue chips to deal that none of the other contenders do Bear, with Correa’s availability for the remainder of the season in question and considering how inconsistent the offense has been, I’m inclined to come over to your way of thinking on this issue. Another bullpen arm would be nice, but I think it is imperative that we add a bat, if we hope to repeat this year. Realmuto is not your typical catcher. I read somewhere that he was a shortstop before he was converted to a catcher. He has played 15 games at first base in 2017-2018 and handled 109 total chances without making an error. The guy can hit, field and run. If we could pry him loose from Miami, if/when Correa is unable to play, he could play first base with Yuli moving over to third and Bregman could play SS while Marwin “Let me take a shot at bunting here with two strikes on me” Gonzalez sat on the pine. This posted yesterday afternoon on MLBTR: “The Athletic’s Jayson Stark cites execs from teams that have spoken with the Astros in reporting (via Twitter) that Houston has been “adamant” about hanging onto its very top tier of prospects in trade talks (e.g. Forrest Whitley, Yordan Alvarez). The Astros’ farm system is plenty deep, of course, and it stands to reason that any of the rental targets they’re pursuing — they’ve been oft-linked to Zach Britton, for instance — would come with a lower price tag than that anyhow.” |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jul 25, 2018 7:16:07 GMT -6
Looking at the league this is what could be available: Padres; Craig Stamman, Kirby Yates and Matt Strahm Blue Jays; Seung Hwon Oh, Roberto Osuna and Marcus Stroman Cardinals; Yadier Molina  ? Orioles; Dylan Bundy and Adam Jones Rays; Chris Archer, Ryan Stanek and Wilson Ramos Mets; Jacob Degrom Marlins; Kyle Barraclough, Adam Conley, Drew Steckenrider,J.T Realmuto and Derek Dietrich Rangers; Jose Leclarc, Keona Kela and Nomar Mozara Giants; Reyes Moronta, Will Smith and Alan Hanson Royals; Whit Merrifield White Sox; Joakim Soria and Avisail Garcia Tigers; Joe Jimenez and Nicholas Castellonos |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jul 25, 2018 7:22:49 GMT -6
Looking at that list
Kirby Yates
Wilson Ramos
Jose Leclerc
And
Nomar Mozara
Would be ideal adds for the Astros.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 25, 2018 7:30:45 GMT -6
I had thought about that same scenario as well. I think you have to consider it. Even if Correa comes back great, he can DH. Just saw this from an article on the Blue Jays posted last night on MLBTR: “None of that even touches on perhaps the team’s most enigmatic trade piece — third baseman Josh Donaldson. At this point, it’s not clear that Donaldson will return before the non-waiver deadline. The remainder of his $23MM salary will assuredly clear waivers next month, meaning he’ll have a bit of time to prove he can return to form and showcase himself for contending clubs before the Aug. 31 deadline for postseason eligibility.” Perhaps a late Verlander-esque type deal? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 25, 2018 7:40:15 GMT -6
Looking at the league this is what could be available: Padres; Craig Stamman, Kirby Yates and Matt Strahm Blue Jays; Seung Hwon Oh, Roberto Osuna and Marcus Stroman Cardinals; Yadier Molina ? Orioles; Dylan Bundy and Adam Jones Rays; Chris Archer, Ryan Stanek and Wilson Ramos Mets; Jacob Degrom Marlins; Kyle Barraclough, Adam Conley, Drew Steckenrider,J.T Realmuto and Derek Dietrich Rangers; Jose Leclarc, Keona Kela and Nomar Mozara Giants; Reyes Moronta, Will Smith and Alan Hanson Royals; Whit Merrifield White Sox; Joakim Soria and Avisail Garcia Tigers; Joe Jimenez and Nicholas Castellonos I would be for Adam Conley, Joakim Soria, Wilson Ramos.....possibly Oh...and depending on the asking price for Castellanos, Realmuto and Merrifield....and for players I like that are not on the list: Jose Martinez or Jose Abreu.....no way on deGrom (he would cost the Astros the farm) ...and Archer, I think the risk outweighs the return. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 25, 2018 7:41:07 GMT -6
Just saw this from an article on the Blue Jays posted last night on MLBTR: “None of that even touches on perhaps the team’s most enigmatic trade piece — third baseman Josh Donaldson. At this point, it’s not clear that Donaldson will return before the non-waiver deadline. The remainder of his $23MM salary will assuredly clear waivers next month, meaning he’ll have a bit of time to prove he can return to form and showcase himself for contending clubs before the Aug. 31 deadline for postseason eligibility.” Perhaps a late Verlander-esque type deal? I mentioned Josh before - waiver deadline move...if the price is right... |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jul 25, 2018 7:54:53 GMT -6
I think we could honestly swoop In for Nomar Mozara
Idk y but I bet Fisher and a mid teen prospect could net him
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Post by Saint on Jul 25, 2018 8:12:24 GMT -6
At this point, it might not be a bad idea to look at another starter. If we were able to get a good good starter we could could push McCullers to the bullpen. I think he could be a dominant for a couple innings and he had success as a reliever last year in the postseason.
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Post by olpapa on Jul 25, 2018 8:13:10 GMT -6
I think we could honestly swoop In for Nomar Mozara Idk y but I bet Fisher and a mid teen prospect could net him Please |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 25, 2018 8:16:15 GMT -6
Looking at the league this is what could be available: Padres; Craig Stamman, Kirby Yates and Matt Strahm Blue Jays; Seung Hwon Oh, Roberto Osuna and Marcus Stroman Cardinals; Yadier Molina ? Orioles; Dylan Bundy and Adam Jones Rays; Chris Archer, Ryan Stanek and Wilson Ramos Mets; Jacob Degrom Marlins; Kyle Barraclough, Adam Conley, Drew Steckenrider,J.T Realmuto and Derek Dietrich Rangers; Jose Leclarc, Keona Kela and Nomar Mozara Giants; Reyes Moronta, Will Smith and Alan Hanson Royals; Whit Merrifield White Sox; Joakim Soria and Avisail Garcia Tigers; Joe Jimenez and Nicholas Castellonos I would be for Adam Conley, Joakim Soria, Wilson Ramos.....possibly Oh...and depending on the asking price for Castellanos, Realmuto and Merrifield....and for players I like that are not on the list: Jose Martinez or Jose Abreu.....no way on deGrom (he would cost the Astros the farm) ...and Archer, I think the risk outweighs the return. I don't like Joaquin Soria. Every time I see him pitch, he gets lit up. Why is Iglesius of the Reds not included on this list. With Britton out of the picture, he should be the top target for bullpen help. I also think getting Merrifield would be a plus. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 25, 2018 8:17:17 GMT -6
I think we could honestly swoop In for Nomar Mozara Idk y but I bet Fisher and a mid teen prospect could net him Please Voodoo is still Voodoo...that is for sure....Rangers will give up their top young player, who is controllable through 2021, to their divisional rival for Derek Fisher and some mid teen prospect.... |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 25, 2018 8:18:59 GMT -6
I would be for Adam Conley, Joakim Soria, Wilson Ramos.....possibly Oh...and depending on the asking price for Castellanos, Realmuto and Merrifield....and for players I like that are not on the list: Jose Martinez or Jose Abreu.....no way on deGrom (he would cost the Astros the farm) ...and Archer, I think the risk outweighs the return. I don't like Joaquin Soria. Every time I see him pitch, he gets lit up. Why is Iglesius of the Reds not included on this list. With Britton out of the picture, he should be the top target for bullpen help. I also think getting Merrifield would be a plus. He is sporting 2.56 ERA, 1.16 WHIP, and somehow you tend to watch the games he gets lit up.......If the Astros do obtain him, for the betterment of the team, you are not allowed to watch the Astros anymore... |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 25, 2018 8:27:56 GMT -6
Perhaps a late Verlander-esque type deal? I mentioned Josh before - waiver deadline move...if the price is right... If my count is correct, Luhnow has made 6 trades with the Blue Jays since he took over as GM of the Astros. In the most recent trade the Jays got a pretty good blocked prospect, Teoscar Hernandez, for then soon to be FA Liriano. I would think that deal is a pleasant memory for the Jays and that they would be open to dealing with Luhnow again. I could definitely see Luhnow making a trade in late August with the Jays involving a blocked prospect or two in exchange for Donaldson, provided Josh returns from the DL and plays enough games in August to prove he is healthy and can be productive. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jul 25, 2018 8:30:50 GMT -6
Voodoo is still Voodoo...that is for sure....Rangers will give up their top young player, who is controllable through 2021, to their divisional rival for Derek Fisher and some mid teen prospect.... Prospects are what the Rangers need. Period they aren't the strongest down the pipe line. If you cant see that then IDK. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 25, 2018 8:32:06 GMT -6
Ah, so YOU are the one who's going to replace Marshall. DId he leave? |
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Post by Saint on Jul 25, 2018 8:33:18 GMT -6
Voodoo is still Voodoo...that is for sure....Rangers will give up their top young player, who is controllable through 2021, to their divisional rival for Derek Fisher and some mid teen prospect.... Prospects are what the Rangers need. Period they aren't the strongest down the pipe line. If you cant see that then IDK. Yeah but they still need players at the ML level and he is a very cheap and controllable one. He would be a good trade candidate in two years. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 25, 2018 8:33:25 GMT -6
Voodoo is still Voodoo...that is for sure....Rangers will give up their top young player, who is controllable through 2021, to their divisional rival for Derek Fisher and some mid teen prospect.... Prospects are what the Rangers need. Period they aren't the strongest down the pipe line. If you cant see that then IDK. So they get a player who did not pan out in the majors and some mid teen prospect for their best young player that is controllable and cheap through 2021. Never Go Full... |
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Post by olpapa on Jul 25, 2018 8:37:59 GMT -6
Ah, so YOU are the one who's going to replace Marshall. DId he leave? Apparently so. This is his last post from July 23, 8:10 PM: “Do complaints about how Proboard's policy being HATEFUL considered HATE SPEECH? That's a slippery slope I do not intend to travel down. I will not bow down to a gutter religion as Pro Boards has required us to do. I'm outa here.” |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 25, 2018 8:41:29 GMT -6
Ah, so YOU are the one who's going to replace Marshall. DId he leave? Said he was. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 25, 2018 8:44:02 GMT -6
I certainly understand the passion regarding free speech and all that, but I think people forget that this is a baseball board first. Certainly there are better areas to discuss that type of stuff?
In any case, I trust Luhnow will make moves that benefit us if they're reasonable. I hope people don't lose their shit if he doesn't make a huge move.
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