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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 18, 2018 13:26:12 GMT -6
Murphy in LF
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 18, 2018 18:49:47 GMT -6
I'm not sure Mike Trout could wake this team up.
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 18, 2018 18:58:37 GMT -6
I'm not sure Mike Trout could wake this team up. Isn't he on the DL right now? |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 18, 2018 19:00:17 GMT -6
Does it feel like Lunhow is gonna push for Harper?
He wanted Stanton why not Harper?
I dont want Harper but could u see it?
Is that the type move he wants to make and think he can resign him?
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 18, 2018 19:04:30 GMT -6
Ummm, no....
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Post by thomasj13 on Aug 18, 2018 19:09:40 GMT -6
Does it feel like Lunhow is gonna push for Harper? He wanted Stanton why not Harper? I dont want Harper but could u see it? Is that the type move he wants to make and think he can resign him? For Giggles - Justin Upton....and Astros just assume most of his salary... |
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Post by astrosdoug on Aug 18, 2018 19:29:20 GMT -6
Does it feel like Lunhow is gonna push for Harper? He wanted Stanton why not Harper? I dont want Harper but could u see it? Is that the type move he wants to make and think he can resign him? Not saying I support it, but I get the sense Luhnow would like to add Harper. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 18, 2018 19:36:14 GMT -6
I'm not saying we should I'm saying does this sound like that player he wanted in the offseason
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 18, 2018 20:23:31 GMT -6
I'm not sure Mike Trout could wake this team up. Isn't he on the DL right now? I forgot that.  |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 18, 2018 20:25:03 GMT -6
I'm not saying we should I'm saying does this sound like that player he wanted in the offseason Luhnow would not get rid of what it would take to get Harper. |
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Post by m240 on Aug 18, 2018 21:56:36 GMT -6
I'm not saying we should I'm saying does this sound like that player he wanted in the offseason Luhnow would not get rid of what it would take to get Harper. I know I would not. |
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Post by m240 on Aug 18, 2018 21:57:16 GMT -6
now Justin Upton I might give up some guys for him.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 18, 2018 22:13:19 GMT -6
So Altuve MCcann MCcullers and Devinski come back who goes down? And if they add a Waiver guy
So 5 spots who goes where?
Someone will get the shock of there lives ones this goes down.
Tucker AAA
Perez AAA
Then what?
Harris?
White?
Kemp?
Its gonna be a hot day
Till those Sept call ups.
Then recall Kemp and White and a RP
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 18, 2018 22:18:56 GMT -6
Getting Harper would be a tremendous risk because there’s no way Luhnow would have him for anything other than a rental. However, can anyone think of a higher upside LF? I say this with Choo and Donaldson not clearing waivers as of yet.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 18, 2018 23:05:04 GMT -6
So Altuve MCcann MCcullers and Devinski come back who goes down? And if they add a Waiver guy So 5 spots who goes where? Someone will get the shock of there lives ones this goes down. Tucker AAA Perez AAA Then what? Harris? White? Kemp? Its gonna be a hot day Till those Sept call ups. Then recall Kemp and White and a RP McCullers and McCann are not likely to be activated before September. When Altuve is activated, I would think Tucker will go back to Fresno. I have not heard any timetable given for Marisnick to be ready. I wish they would just release Harris. I don't think anyone needs to get excited about Harper coming here because that isn't going to happen. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 18, 2018 23:34:01 GMT -6
So Altuve MCcann MCcullers and Devinski come back who goes down? And if they add a Waiver guy So 5 spots who goes where? Someone will get the shock of there lives ones this goes down. Tucker AAA Perez AAA Then what? Harris? White? Kemp? Its gonna be a hot day Till those Sept call ups. Then recall Kemp and White and a RP The way Stassi has been hitting, I can see him being sent down when McCann arrives. |
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Post by m240 on Aug 19, 2018 7:19:47 GMT -6
Harris should be gone
Kemp will be traded for a bat, I like Voodoo's idea on Murphy, that could be an even up trade.
White is not going anywhere, he has earned his spot
Tucker needs to stay in AAA til next year
I could see Stassi going down. That does cause us an issue for next year with no one knowing the staff.
I could also see Gurriel needing a 10 day stay on the dl as his wrist must be killing him the way he is hitting
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Post by astrosdoug on Aug 19, 2018 8:07:43 GMT -6
Harris should be gone Kemp will be traded for a bat, I like Voodoo's idea on Murphy, that could be an even up trade. White is not going anywhere, he has earned his spot Tucker needs to stay in AAA til next year I could see Stassi going down. That does cause us an issue for next year with no one knowing the staff. I could also see Gurriel needing a 10 day stay on the dl as his wrist must be killing him the way he is hitting - Can Stassi even be sent down? He was out of options when the season started, which is part of the reason he got such a serious look to break camp with the team in March. - Gurriel may well be in the same boat as Devo was a few weeks ago (unusually poor performance due to injury) - Tucker certainly shouldn't be on the postseason roster... if a trade goes down this month, it needs to be for a LF. - White should probably start at 1B every game for the next two weeks while Yuli gets right. He's a funny player in the sense that, as a 33rd round draft pick, no one expected him to be more than just minor league depth and at every step of the minors, it was widely prognosticated that he'd never cut it at the next level. But from A+ to AA ball, then from AA to AAA, and now from AAA to the Astros, the 33rd round pick keeps proving the naysayers wrong. Oftentimes in spectacular fashion: PCL Hitter of the Year; a couple minor league All Star Games; AL Player of the Week... Now, of course, the smug take on White is that, while he's raked two seasons straight in the majors, it's just a fluke and he will soon return to being a replacement-level player. This is what Zips and Steamer say. But it would be very like White to prove them wrong yet again. - Kemp deserves a starting job somewhere in the MLB and if the Astros can get an impact player for this season's playoff run, it makes sense. - Even though Astros fans are pretty down on Harris, there's a lot in his stat sheet that a sabermetrically-minded GM would like. - His FIP suggests he will tend towards a 2.50 ERA for the remainder of the season - His groundball rate is right around 49%, which is very attractive. - His BABIP against is in the .330s, suggesting he's been a victim of bad luck to some extent and is due for some mercy from the baseball gods. On that basis, some team out there might really like to acquire Harris. I honestly don't see him as that weak of a link. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 19, 2018 8:08:36 GMT -6
Stassi is out of options.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 19, 2018 8:12:39 GMT -6
The Astros owe themselves an impact outfielder, and they owe Kemp a starting job elsewhere.
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Post by m240 on Aug 19, 2018 8:15:23 GMT -6
Harris should be gone Kemp will be traded for a bat, I like Voodoo's idea on Murphy, that could be an even up trade. White is not going anywhere, he has earned his spot Tucker needs to stay in AAA til next year I could see Stassi going down. That does cause us an issue for next year with no one knowing the staff. I could also see Gurriel needing a 10 day stay on the dl as his wrist must be killing him the way he is hitting - Can Stassi even be sent down? He was out of options when the season started, which is part of the reason he got such a serious look to break camp with the team in March. - Gurriel may well be in the same boat as Devo was a few weeks ago (unusually poor performance due to injury) - Tucker certainly shouldn't be on the postseason roster... if a trade goes down this month, it needs to be for a LF. - White should probably start at 1B every game for the next two weeks while Yuli gets right. He's a funny player in the sense that, as a 33rd round draft pick, no one expected him to be more than just minor league depth and at every step of the minors, it was widely prognosticated that he'd never cut it at the next level. But from A+ to AA ball, then from AA to AAA, and now from AAA to the Astros, the 33rd round pick keeps proving the naysayers wrong. Oftentimes in spectacular fashion: PCL Hitter of the Year; a couple minor league All Star Games; AL Player of the Week... Now, of course, the smug take on White is that, while he's raked two seasons straight in the majors, it's just a fluke and he will soon return to being a replacement-level player. This is what Zips and Steamer say. But it would be very like White to prove them wrong yet again. - Kemp deserves a starting job somewhere in the MLB and if the Astros can get an impact player for this season's playoff run, it makes sense. - Even though Astros fans are pretty down on Harris, there's a lot in his stat sheet that a sabermetrically-minded GM would like. - His FIP suggests he will tend towards a 2.50 ERA for the remainder of the season - His groundball rate is right around 49%, which is very attractive. - His BABIP against is in the .330s, suggesting he's been a victim of bad luck to some extent and is due for some mercy from the baseball gods. On that basis, some team out there might really like to acquire Harris. I honestly don't see him as that weak of a link. Harris has falled apart every year. Just when you start to count on him he tanks. You are right on Stassi. I forgot he was out of options that being the case given that we need to make 5 moves the 4 left after taking Stassi off are the four that I would do. I disagree on the the premise that we need to make 5 because McCullers is not coming back until September. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 19, 2018 8:21:49 GMT -6
Harris should be gone Kemp will be traded for a bat, I like Voodoo's idea on Murphy, that could be an even up trade. White is not going anywhere, he has earned his spot Tucker needs to stay in AAA til next year I could see Stassi going down. That does cause us an issue for next year with no one knowing the staff. I could also see Gurriel needing a 10 day stay on the dl as his wrist must be killing him the way he is hitting - Can Stassi even be sent down? He was out of options when the season started, which is part of the reason he got such a serious look to break camp with the team in March. - Gurriel may well be in the same boat as Devo was a few weeks ago (unusually poor performance due to injury) - Tucker certainly shouldn't be on the postseason roster... if a trade goes down this month, it needs to be for a LF. - White should probably start at 1B every game for the next two weeks while Yuli gets right. He's a funny player in the sense that, as a 33rd round draft pick, no one expected him to be more than just minor league depth and at every step of the minors, it was widely prognosticated that he'd never cut it at the next level. But from A+ to AA ball, then from AA to AAA, and now from AAA to the Astros, the 33rd round pick keeps proving the naysayers wrong. Oftentimes in spectacular fashion: PCL Hitter of the Year; a couple minor league All Star Games; AL Player of the Week... Now, of course, the smug take on White is that, while he's raked two seasons straight in the majors, it's just a fluke and he will soon return to being a replacement-level player. This is what Zips and Steamer say. But it would be very like White to prove them wrong yet again. - Kemp deserves a starting job somewhere in the MLB and if the Astros can get an impact player for this season's playoff run, it makes sense. - Even though Astros fans are pretty down on Harris, there's a lot in his stat sheet that a sabermetrically-minded GM would like. - His FIP suggests he will tend towards a 2.50 ERA for the remainder of the season - His groundball rate is right around 49%, which is very attractive. - His BABIP against is in the .330s, suggesting he's been a victim of bad luck to some extent and is due for some mercy from the baseball gods. On that basis, some team out there might really like to acquire Harris. I honestly don't see him as that weak of a link. My vote is to let some "sabermetric-minded" GM take a Harris off our hands. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Aug 19, 2018 8:48:35 GMT -6
The best trades are those where the trading partner values your player much more highly than you yourself do. The stats in Harris's favor might be enough to create that disparity. I see Harris as an above-average reliever. Nothing remarkable, but not horrible either. If he can be replaced with a superior reliever, then of course do it.
Had Harris's ERA lived up to his ~2.50 FIP this year, we could fairly say he's been the most consistent strong middle reliever the team has seen since Larry Andersen. We talked about this in the offseason.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 19, 2018 9:41:28 GMT -6
You could see if Stassi clears and if not what trade you can work out if not good enough recall him.
Then just try what you can Harris needs to be dropped down and see if someone gets him
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 19, 2018 10:46:53 GMT -6
You could see if Stassi clears and if not what trade you can work out if not good enough recall him. Then just try what you can Harris needs to be dropped down and see if someone gets him Releasing Stassi would be foolhardy given the lack of depth in our organization at catcher, especially after McCann retires (unless the Braves sign him) in the offseason. Realmuto remains a pipe dream until he wears that H-star on his head. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 19, 2018 11:08:14 GMT -6
At this point, we cannot afford to lose Stassi. One of the shortcomings of this organization has always been failing to develop a quality catcher who was also at least an average hitter
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Post by nathangarza29 on Aug 19, 2018 17:50:26 GMT -6
Idk but I still think Lunhow is gonna wow us.
Murphy would be my choice
But I got this bad feeling Harper
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 19, 2018 21:15:22 GMT -6
Idk but I still think Lunhow is gonna wow us. Murphy would be my choice But I got this bad feeling Harper Harper wouldn’t make sense to fall to us or even to trade for considering we’d be a stopgap for the Yankees, Red Sox, or Dodgers. |
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Post by m240 on Aug 19, 2018 21:31:37 GMT -6
Luhnow trying to explain to everyone in Astosland why he traded the farm for Harper would be like me trying to explain to my wife how I got a std. Neither one is ever going to happen.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 19, 2018 22:02:23 GMT -6
Luhnow trying to explain to everyone in Astosland why he traded the farm for Harper would be like me trying to explain to my wife how I got a std. Neither one is ever going to happen. I highly doubt Luhnow is going to trade for Harper. |
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