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Post by astrosdoug on Jul 26, 2018 22:02:32 GMT -6
And this guy can't get a date?...amazing... I'm sure Marshall would have no problem getting a date, assuming he were single and free to do so. The man speaks a lot of sense and there are many fine women in the USA and around the world who can see that. Something that the members here probably should pay attention to is the legal debate about the extent to which private companies hosting internet forums (such as Proboards) can limit free speech. In reality, this issue is not as cut-and-dry as Bortaz has asserted it is when he said, in effect, that private companies can do what they want and that they have no obligation to allow all types of free speech (which might include conservative speech, anti-abortion speech, speech about the history of various religions...). There is a growing legal argument that certain internet giants, especially Facebook, Twitter, Yahoo, and Google, are so large and competition against them so near-to-impossible that they effectively constitute an "internet commons". In other words, practically speaking, you can't get on the internet and go about normal daily business without having to deal with those giant companies in some way. The argument goes, since the public can't help but step on the turf of Facebook, Twitter, etc. while going from here to there on the internet, those sites do in fact have to allow free speech as defined on constitutional law -- not as those corporations' boards of directors may wish to define it. Now Proboards is probably too small to get included in that argument, but if legislation comes down affecting the giant corporations like FB/Twitter, it might be written in a way that affects Proboards too. The general policy of the Trump Administration is to curtail the way in which far-left, global socialist interests have weaponized social media for the purpose of ending American sovereignty and destroying the culture that made the USA great. The "internet commons" argument is one that you can expect to see used more often in the court system as Trump's first term continues. Did you see the hit that Facebook stock took the other day? it was down over 20% overnight if I recall. All in response to the far left having their weaponized, PC social media toys taken away. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 26, 2018 22:41:38 GMT -6
And this guy can't get a date?...amazing... I am as conservative as they come, but still understand what constitutes free speech. Proboards can invoke whatever rules they want. Marshall is bonkers. i basically agree with Marshall on Islam,but, i also understand that we have to go by Proboard rules whether we agree with them or not. |
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Post by batman007 on Jul 27, 2018 0:58:20 GMT -6
If anyone here actually believes you're going to find a board where you can say anything you want and be able to get away with it, then you're outright stupid. Sure, they may exist, but you'e going to need to travel down the dark roads of the internet, a place a majority of the population doesn't even know about, nor want to mess with.
Free speech only protects you from the government punishing you from speaking your mind, not a private company.
Best rule of thumb for some of you so called adults, don't be a dick, and don't be a snowflake about this situation.
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Post by talshill on Jul 27, 2018 8:01:10 GMT -6
And this guy can't get a date?...amazing... There is a growing legal argument that certain internet giants, especially Facebook, Twitter, Yahoo, and Google, are so large and competition against them so near-to-impossible that they effectively constitute an "internet commons". In other words, practically speaking, you can't get on the internet and go about normal daily business without having to deal with those giant companies in some way. The argument goes, since the public can't help but step on the turf of Facebook, Twitter, etc. while going from here to there on the internet, those sites do in fact have to allow free speech as defined on constitutional law -- not as those corporations' boards of directors may wish to define it. Now Proboards is probably too small to get included in that argument, but if legislation comes down affecting the giant corporations like FB/Twitter, it might be written in a way that affects Proboards too. The general policy of the Trump Administration is to curtail the way in which far-left, global socialist interests have weaponized social media for the purpose of ending American sovereignty and destroying the culture that made the USA great. Most of the folks on this board are politically conservative. We understand that the media has been "weaponized" in an unfair attempt to sway opinion in a manner that goes against the traditional function of news media. Personally, I am pro-life and see the influx of Muslims into the country as nothing less than a long-term invasion. One need only to look at the mess in Europe to see what kind of trouble awaits us. We've also seen the attempted agitation of minorities whipped up by the same media. There is a not-so-well disguised attempt afoot to change the entire culture, and not for the better. I get it. The issue here, as I see it, is that free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences. The board is owned by Proboards and they have ultimate say over the content. Yes, they're renting space to us, but they own the space. Respect for private property rights is paramount for free speech to exist. If there is no private property, where are you going to practice the speech? Therefore because we believe in free speech we are bound to respect their rules. Put another way, if you rented a house to someone and later discovered that they had placed pro- abortion and anti-American signs in the yard, what would you do? I'm not sure how the Trump administration can restrict what the news media says without fundamentally changing the rules for everyone. I'm not willing to restrict my speech by passing legislation that restricts theirs. |
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Post by m240 on Jul 27, 2018 8:42:31 GMT -6
There is a growing legal argument that certain internet giants, especially Facebook, Twitter, Yahoo, and Google, are so large and competition against them so near-to-impossible that they effectively constitute an "internet commons". In other words, practically speaking, you can't get on the internet and go about normal daily business without having to deal with those giant companies in some way. The argument goes, since the public can't help but step on the turf of Facebook, Twitter, etc. while going from here to there on the internet, those sites do in fact have to allow free speech as defined on constitutional law -- not as those corporations' boards of directors may wish to define it. Now Proboards is probably too small to get included in that argument, but if legislation comes down affecting the giant corporations like FB/Twitter, it might be written in a way that affects Proboards too. The general policy of the Trump Administration is to curtail the way in which far-left, global socialist interests have weaponized social media for the purpose of ending American sovereignty and destroying the culture that made the USA great. Most of the folks on this board are politically conservative. We understand that the media has been "weaponized" in an unfair attempt to sway opinion in a manner that goes against the traditional function of news media. Personally, I am pro-life and see the influx of Muslims into the country as nothing less than a long-term invasion. One need only to look at the mess in Europe to see what kind of trouble awaits us. We've also seen the attempted agitation of minorities whipped up by the same media. There is a not-so-well disguised attempt afoot to change the entire culture, and not for the better. I get it. The issue here, as I see it, is that free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences. The board is owned by Proboards and they have ultimate say over the content. Yes, they're renting space to us, but they own the space. Respect for private property rights is paramount for free speech to exist. If there is no private property, where are you going to practice the speech? Therefore because we believe in free speech we are bound to respect their rules. Put another way, if you rented a house to someone and later discovered that they had placed pro- abortion and anti-American signs in the yard, what would you do? I'm not sure how the Trump administration can restrict what the news media says without fundamentally changing the rules for everyone. I'm not willing to restrict my speech by passing legislation that restricts theirs. agree 100% |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 27, 2018 8:52:49 GMT -6
Most of the folks on this board are politically conservative. We understand that the media has been "weaponized" in an unfair attempt to sway opinion in a manner that goes against the traditional function of news media. Personally, I am pro-life and see the influx of Muslims into the country as nothing less than a long-term invasion. One need only to look at the mess in Europe to see what kind of trouble awaits us. We've also seen the attempted agitation of minorities whipped up by the same media. There is a not-so-well disguised attempt afoot to change the entire culture, and not for the better. I get it. The issue here, as I see it, is that free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences. The board is owned by Proboards and they have ultimate say over the content. Yes, they're renting space to us, but they own the space. Respect for private property rights is paramount for free speech to exist. If there is no private property, where are you going to practice the speech? Therefore because we believe in free speech we are bound to respect their rules. Put another way, if you rented a house to someone and later discovered that they had placed pro- abortion and anti-American signs in the yard, what would you do? I'm not sure how the Trump administration can restrict what the news media says without fundamentally changing the rules for everyone. I'm not willing to restrict my speech by passing legislation that restricts theirs. agree 100% Me too |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 27, 2018 8:54:18 GMT -6
If anyone here actually believes you're going to find a board where you can say anything you want and be able to get away with it, then you're outright stupid. Sure, they may exist, but you'e going to need to travel down the dark roads of the internet, a place a majority of the population doesn't even know about, nor want to mess with. Free speech only protects you from the government punishing you from speaking your mind, not a private company. Best rule of thumb for some of you so called adults, don't be a dick, and don't be a snowflake about this situation. Exactly what I have been trying to get across. Those who don't see it are just being obtuse (or are truly ignorant of the world) |
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Post by sempersmom on Jul 27, 2018 9:24:52 GMT -6
I am as conservative as they come, but still understand what constitutes free speech. Proboards can invoke whatever rules they want. Marshall is bonkers. Yes they can but do they apply it evenly for all? |
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Post by sempersmom on Jul 27, 2018 9:29:39 GMT -6
I am as conservative as they come, but still understand what constitutes free speech. Proboards can invoke whatever rules they want. Marshall is bonkers. I liked him, but it is not a surprise he is friends with PoP. So am I. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 27, 2018 10:13:36 GMT -6
I liked him, but it is not a surprise he is friends with PoP. So am I. Well I am always willing to give exceptions to the exceptional (meaning you)....BFTR PoP was a world class DB, he tried to destroy the old fourm... |
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Post by sempersmom on Jul 27, 2018 10:30:41 GMT -6
Tim replied to one of my comments on PoP's Facebook page. I wondered if he knew who's page it was.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2018 10:34:00 GMT -6
Well I am always willing to give exceptions to the exceptional (meaning you)....BFTR PoP was a world class DB, he tried to destroy the old fourm... I saw PoP as more of bufoon, and great laughing fodder. OTOH.... Ghick reached pure db status |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 27, 2018 10:48:46 GMT -6
Tim replied to one of my comments on PoP's Facebook page. I wondered if he knew who's page it was. What did I reply to, and what was my response? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 27, 2018 10:52:54 GMT -6
Well I am always willing to give exceptions to the exceptional (meaning you)....BFTR PoP was a world class DB, he tried to destroy the old fourm... I saw PoP as more of bufoon, and great laughing fodder. OTOH.... Ghick reached pure db status You have your King DB, I have mine.... |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 27, 2018 12:39:57 GMT -6
If anyone here actually believes you're going to find a board where you can say anything you want and be able to get away with it, then you're outright stupid. Sure, they may exist, but you'e going to need to travel down the dark roads of the internet, a place a majority of the population doesn't even know about, nor want to mess with. Free speech only protects you from the government punishing you from speaking your mind, not a private company. Best rule of thumb for some of you so called adults, don't be a dick, and don't be a snowflake about this situation. Exactly what I have been trying to get across. Those who don't see it are just being obtuse (or are truly ignorant of the world) Is it OK to be scalene, isosceles, equilateral, or acute instead of Obtuse?  |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jul 27, 2018 12:40:58 GMT -6
Well I am always willing to give exceptions to the exceptional (meaning you)....BFTR PoP was a world class DB, he tried to destroy the old fourm... I saw PoP as more of bufoon, and great laughing fodder. OTOH.... Ghick reached pure db status Who is PoP?? |
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Post by sempersmom on Jul 27, 2018 13:08:17 GMT -6
Tim replied to one of my comments on PoP's Facebook page. I wondered if he knew who's page it was. What did I reply to, and what was my response? I don't remember. I'll see if I can find it. |
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Post by Saint on Jul 27, 2018 15:11:01 GMT -6
I saw PoP as more of bufoon, and great laughing fodder. OTOH.... Ghick reached pure db status Who is PoP?? PrinceOfPop. A psychopathic board member that pretended to be a lot of things, and was an asshole to several posters who would disagree with him. He had issues. You and I are assholes too, but not at his level and we're not crazy. |
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Post by koolade2 on Jul 27, 2018 15:21:21 GMT -6
PoP tried to convince the Board he was a famous artist and a couple poster actually tried to help him convey this.
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Post by batman007 on Jul 27, 2018 15:36:21 GMT -6
I don't remember 100%, but PoP I don't think ever actually said he was Tom Petty. That started from others who were trying to figure out his identity through his words. The entire thing started when one poster (I think his name was Eric) made a joke to him, and to clarify it was a joke, Eric said "jk". PoP's actual initials were J.K., and PoP being the moron he was, thought Eric knew who he was, thus began playing the game of Guess Who. It was either Eric, or some other poster who began making guesses and the guess eventually landed on Tom Petty and it snowballed from there.
The entire thing was a mess, all because one person made a joke and then said, "jk" (just kidding).
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 27, 2018 15:40:00 GMT -6
PoP tried to convince the Board he was a famous artist and a couple poster actually tried to help him convey this. He acted like he was a God...and boasted how women like to towel him off... |
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Post by koolade2 on Jul 27, 2018 15:45:53 GMT -6
I don't remember 100%, but PoP I don't think ever actually said he was Tom Petty. That started from others who were trying to figure out his identity through his words. The entire thing started when one poster (I think his name was Eric) made a joke to him, and to clarify it was a joke, Eric said "jk". PoP's actual initials were J.K., and PoP being the moron he was, thought Eric knew who he was, thus began playing the game of Guess Who. It was either Eric, or some other poster who began making guesses and the guess eventually landed on Tom Petty and it snowballed from there. The entire thing was a mess, all because one person made a joke and then said, "jk" (just kidding). Once it became Tom P he did everything in is posting to convey that message. I can't remember the Chic name to actually said she knew him and didn't clarify that he wasn't Tom P. I actually thought she was confirming it. Then they were going to have this big meet up at a Concert or something along those lines and then the Big Blow Up started after that. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 27, 2018 15:56:56 GMT -6
Rita. The Indian chick.
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Post by koolade2 on Jul 27, 2018 16:09:57 GMT -6
That would be it. I do remember her doing everything in her Posting to Protect PoP. LOL, It got to the point people were joining sides for PoP and against him. It truly was a Fun time in the City. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 27, 2018 16:55:14 GMT -6
I know it’s just me, but I’m still convinced the Pop thing was all Marshall.
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Post by koolade2 on Jul 27, 2018 16:58:47 GMT -6
Seeing as I really was mostly a lurker, hence my low post count even though I was there early on. I never knew Marshal now that I have seen him post here, I could see it being Marshall under a different sign on.
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Post by koolade2 on Jul 27, 2018 17:49:06 GMT -6
Am I the only one in a Panic when I couldn't load the Refugees Board just now for like 10 minutes.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 27, 2018 18:17:24 GMT -6
Am I the only one in a Panic when I couldn't load the Refugees Board just now for like 10 minutes. Nope. I was so worried the other day.. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 27, 2018 18:31:12 GMT -6
Speaking of that, this might be a good time to remind everyone of my Refugees email address, in case something happens. I don’t have the energy to try to find everyone again like I did with this forum. If we get separated, email me at:
AstrosRefugees@gmail.com
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Post by abregmanfan on Jul 27, 2018 18:48:57 GMT -6
My email is lufkinpack69@yahoo.com
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