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Post by bearbryant on Aug 1, 2018 12:12:02 GMT -6
it's ridiculous to sit White against a lefty |
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Post by olpapa on Aug 1, 2018 12:38:48 GMT -6
Davis over White? No bueno. You gotta wonder sometimes if the opposing teams are hacking the clipboard. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 1, 2018 12:40:01 GMT -6
Davis over White? No bueno. You gotta wonder sometimes if the opposing teams are hacking the clipboard. I can only assume that they feel this is the best fielding infield they can do right now since Keuchel generates so many groundballs.... |
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Post by olpapa on Aug 1, 2018 12:40:47 GMT -6
well so many of us have wanted Kemp to hit leadoff... tonight it's happening Springer must be in a coma. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 1, 2018 12:43:11 GMT -6
I saw a tweet yesterday from a baseball insider (can't remember who) that said, "I've never seen a guy go from World Series MVP and fall off a cliff as bad as Springer has this year." Seems a little over the top. Springer slumped going into the ASB, but other than that his numbers are fine. Solely compared to his last two seasons, he has fallen off a cliff. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 1, 2018 12:46:39 GMT -6
it's ridiculous to sit White against a lefty I’m not super big on Stassi or White, but they should not be sitting against lefties for sure. |
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Post by olpapa on Aug 1, 2018 12:47:37 GMT -6
Gonna be interesting to see what they do to make room for Osuna when he is activated. Harris has an option left. Devenski has 3 options left.
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 1, 2018 12:48:47 GMT -6
Gonna be interesting to see what they do to make room for Osuna when he is activated. Harris has an option left. Devenski has 3 options left. Keep the hot hand. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 1, 2018 12:54:18 GMT -6
Be sure an let us know when Whit starts producing some runs. Yeah...he only got two more hits yesterday in four ABs and actually doesn't swing at the first pitch every time. Your boy Gurriel went 1-5 and saw a total of 7 pitches, I believe? And his offensive percentages are all about to drop below league average. But hey, let's pick on the young guys that are actually getting on base and being productive. Whatever works for ya! you forgot to mention what the great White did with the bases loaded .....Once again, a chance to produce runs and a weak ground ball to end the inning., As I said, he does not produce runs. Getting on base is great, but, he has consistently left runners on base that he could have driven in. Once again, i will point out that White has 43 plate appearances and has FOUR extra base hits and has driven in FOUR runs. Since you pride yourself in posting numbers, look up how many runners White has left stranded on base and report back. I see that Jake Marisnick has been recalled and Tucker sent back down. So, when Correa and Altuve are ready, your boy White and Davis will both be back in Fresno where they belong. |
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Post by olpapa on Aug 1, 2018 12:55:55 GMT -6
Man Devo hung up some ugly numbers in July. 5 IP, 14 H, 4 BB, 13 ER, .467 BAA
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 1, 2018 12:57:36 GMT -6
It will be interesting to see who is off the active roster to make space for Jake. Tucker has been optioned to Fresno When Altuve and Correa are ready, I imagine White and Davis will join him there. I am hopeful that Harris will either be optioned if he has optiions left, put on the DL to "rest", or preferably released when Osuna is activated. He is gettting ready by pitching in the minors. I was hoping we could deal Harris for a prospect before the deadline. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 1, 2018 12:58:49 GMT -6
Man Devo hung up some ugly numbers in July. 5 IP, 14 H, 4 BB, 13 ER, .467 BAA He and Harris are both useless right now. I have more hope for Devo to get it together. Somebody has to go to activate Osuna and Harris would be my pick. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 1, 2018 13:00:27 GMT -6
I think Bortaz should open a WELCOME BACK thread for Jake to show how glad we are to have him rejoin us.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 1, 2018 13:13:57 GMT -6
When did it become so cool to flaunt your baseball ignorance, corch?
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 1, 2018 13:16:06 GMT -6
I've never seen anyone so enthralled with one of the worst baseball players in the game.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 1, 2018 13:16:54 GMT -6
When did it become so cool to flaunt your baseball ignorance, corch? It is not ignorant to want the best defensive outfielder in the organization on the team. I like Kyle Tucker, but, he is not ready to play regularly for us. Jake is a much better outfielder. Luhnow didn't add a bat to play in the OF so we recalled a good defender and baserunner. Jake should not start games, but, can be a valuable defensive replacement or pinch runner in the late innings. WELCOME BACK, JAKE.  |
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Post by Saint on Aug 1, 2018 13:18:25 GMT -6
Yeah...he only got two more hits yesterday in four ABs and actually doesn't swing at the first pitch every time. Your boy Gurriel went 1-5 and saw a total of 7 pitches, I believe? And his offensive percentages are all about to drop below league average. But hey, let's pick on the young guys that are actually getting on base and being productive. Whatever works for ya! you forgot to mention what the great White did with the bases loaded .....Once again, a chance to produce runs and a weak ground ball to end the inning., As I said, he does not produce runs. Getting on base is great, but, he has consistently left runners on base that he could have driven in. Once again, i will point out that White has 43 plate appearances and has FOUR extra base hits and has driven in FOUR runs. Since you pride yourself in posting numbers, look up how many runners White has left stranded on base and report back. I see that Jake Marisnick has been recalled and Tucker sent back down. So, when Correa and Altuve are ready, your boy White and Davis will both be back in Fresno where they belong. And your boy Yuli went 0-2 with RISP yesterday also. The one thing he is good at........ Make sure to not mention that while you're complaining about the players that ARE doing something. |
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Post by olpapa on Aug 1, 2018 13:24:24 GMT -6
I would just like to point out that White has only batted 7 times in 52 plate appearances with runners in scoring position. His opportunies to drive in runs have been quite limited.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 1, 2018 13:27:23 GMT -6
I've never seen anyone so enthralled with one of the worst baseball players in the game. I am not enthralled with anyone. If you take away his weak bat, Jake is one of the top outfielders in baseball and has kept many runs from scoring with his defense and speed. His speed on the bases is also an asset. If his lack of hitting is set aside, he is one of the best players. You can count those who are his equal in the outfield on one hand. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 1, 2018 13:29:43 GMT -6
you forgot to mention what the great White did with the bases loaded .....Once again, a chance to produce runs and a weak ground ball to end the inning., As I said, he does not produce runs. Getting on base is great, but, he has consistently left runners on base that he could have driven in. Once again, i will point out that White has 43 plate appearances and has FOUR extra base hits and has driven in FOUR runs. Since you pride yourself in posting numbers, look up how many runners White has left stranded on base and report back. I see that Jake Marisnick has been recalled and Tucker sent back down. So, when Correa and Altuve are ready, your boy White and Davis will both be back in Fresno where they belong. And your boy Yuli went 0-2 with RISP yesterday also. The one thing he is good at........ Make sure to not mention that while you're complaining about the players that ARE doing something. My boy, Yuli, has the best batting average in baseball with runners in scoring position. What is your boy White's numbers in those situations? I don't care what his OPS or WAR is if he can't produce runs. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 1, 2018 13:29:48 GMT -6
Here, Coach. Even you said you think you like the runs created stat (+wRC). Here are the numbers:
White: 157
Bregman: 154
Altuve: 139
Kemp: 129
Correa: 127
Gattis: 115
Springer: 113
Stassi: 111
Reddick: 104
Gurriel: 99
Marwin: 85
McCann: 71
Marisnick: 62
But yeah, Gurriel is one bad ass mofo right now.
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Post by Saint on Aug 1, 2018 13:30:40 GMT -6
And your boy Yuli went 0-2 with RISP yesterday also. The one thing he is good at........ Make sure to not mention that while you're complaining about the players that ARE doing something. My boy, Yuli, has the best batting average in baseball with runners in scoring position. What is your boy White's numbers in those situations? I don't care what his OPS or WAR is if he can't produce runs. I'm glad you found one number. One. That you think proves ultimate value. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 1, 2018 13:31:48 GMT -6
I would just like to point out that White has only batted 7 times in 52 plate appearances with runners in scoring position. His opportunies to drive in runs have been quite limited. Noted. And, I have seen an improvement in White's at bats. I can't get past the fact that in 43 plate appearances he only has 4 extra base hits. A first baseman has to do better. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 1, 2018 13:33:55 GMT -6
My boy, Yuli, has the best batting average in baseball with runners in scoring position. What is your boy White's numbers in those situations? I don't care what his OPS or WAR is if he can't produce runs. I'm glad you found one number. One. That you think proves ultimate value. If you don't value driving in runs when given the chance isn't valuable, i don't know what else to tell you. I found the number that counts......the one that shows production. Let me know when White does better. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 1, 2018 13:33:58 GMT -6
I would just like to point out that White has only batted 7 times in 52 plate appearances with runners in scoring position. His opportunies to drive in runs have been quite limited. Noted. And, I have seen an improvement in White's at bats. I can't get past the fact that in 43 plate appearances he only has 4 extra base hits. A first baseman has to do better. White is averaging a HR every 14 AB. Yuli (also a 1B) is averaging a HR every 59 AB.Have some consistency. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 1, 2018 13:35:51 GMT -6
I'm glad you found one number. One. That you think proves ultimate value. If you don't value driving in runs when given the chance isn't valuable, i don't know what else to tell you. I found the number that counts......the one that shows production. Let me know when White does better. I never said I didn't value RISP numbers; they have lots of value. But that's only a small part. If you can't do something the rest of the time, you don't have much value. Which unfortunately Gurriel is showing right now. I think he'll improve....but right now he is mediocre at best. And you're using 7 ABs to show that White has no value. That's absurd. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 1, 2018 13:36:14 GMT -6
Jake is in the lineup today as George is being held out, but, is available if needed.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 1, 2018 13:38:51 GMT -6
If you don't value driving in runs when given the chance isn't valuable, i don't know what else to tell you. I found the number that counts......the one that shows production. Let me know when White does better. I never said I didn't value RISP numbers; they have lots of value. But that's only a small part. If you can't do something the rest of the time, you don't have much value. Which unfortunately Gurriel is showing right now. I think he'll improve....but right now he is mediocre at best. And you're using 7 ABs to show that White has no value. That's absurd. No, I am using 43 at bats to show he has not been productive. When White has the number of at bats that Yuli has and does as well or better than Yuli, let us know. It is obvious that you would replace Yuli with White and that isn't going to happen and should not happen. Enjoy White while he is here......he will be sent back down soon, but, will probably be back in September when rosters expand. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 1, 2018 13:40:46 GMT -6
Noted. And, I have seen an improvement in White's at bats. I can't get past the fact that in 43 plate appearances he only has 4 extra base hits. A first baseman has to do better. White is averaging a HR every 14 AB. Yuli (also a 1B) is averaging a HR every 59 AB.Have some consistency. I have some consistency and so does Yuli. Yuli has CONSISTENTLY driven in runners who are in scoring position better than ANY player in baseball. You cannot dispute it .....it is a FACT. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 1, 2018 13:42:36 GMT -6
I never said I didn't value RISP numbers; they have lots of value. But that's only a small part. If you can't do something the rest of the time, you don't have much value. Which unfortunately Gurriel is showing right now. I think he'll improve....but right now he is mediocre at best. And you're using 7 ABs to show that White has no value. That's absurd. No, I am using 43 at bats to show he has not been productive. When White has the number of at bats that Yuli has and does as well or better than Yuli, let us know. It is obvious that you would replace Yuli with White and that isn't going to happen and should not happen. Enjoy White while he is here......he will be sent back down soon, but, will probably be back in September when rosters expand. Of those 43 ABs he has only had 7 with RISP. The one thing you keep going back to with Gurriel. And no, I wouldn't replace Gurriel with White right now. I'm trying to point out the glaring incorrectness of your player appraisals when it comes to offense. Which is weird because you recognize the value in Jake's defense and baserunning (and are correct).....but you can't seem to recognize offensive value even when the facts are kicking you in the face. |
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