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Post by Saint on Aug 28, 2018 11:34:28 GMT -6
81-50
2.5 games ahead of Oakland for the division
8.5 games behind Boston for overall
1st in run differential at +221
Team OPS+: 113
Team ERA+: 128
Top-5 WAR Players:
1. Bregman 6.1
2. Altuve 4.8
3. Verlander 4.5
4. Cole 4.0
5. Morton 2.9
Interestingly, I know a lot of people don't care for WAR as a stat, but I still thought I'd add this, Marwin is now our 3rd best position player from a WAR standpoint at 2.5.
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Post by bearbryant on Aug 28, 2018 11:36:08 GMT -6
OK let's all remember to give up after two and-a-half innings since that worked so well last night
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2018 11:36:59 GMT -6
Interestingly, I know a lot of people don't care for WAR as a stat, but I still thought I'd add this, Marwin is now our 3rd best position player from a WAR standpoint at 2.5. That does interest me. Marwin has stepped it up the second half like he is playing for a contract or something. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 28, 2018 11:46:04 GMT -6
Interestingly, I know a lot of people don't care for WAR as a stat, but I still thought I'd add this, Marwin is now our 3rd best position player from a WAR standpoint at 2.5. That does interest me. Marwin has stepped it up the second half like he is playing for a contract or something. Yeah, I still don't think he is somebody we should keep, but with his versatility and recent performance he'll likely get himself a little multi-year contract. In his last 5 seasons (the only seasons he appeared in 100+ games) he averages this line: 14 HR 51 RBI 6 SB .273/.330/.442 (.772 OPS 113 OPS+) 2.3 WAR |
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Post by olpapa on Aug 28, 2018 14:25:40 GMT -6
Interestingly, I know a lot of people don't care for WAR as a stat, but I still thought I'd add this, Marwin is now our 3rd best position player from a WAR standpoint at 2.5. That does interest me. Marwin has stepped it up the second half like he is playing for a contract or something. Same can be said for Keuchel. |
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Post by olpapa on Aug 28, 2018 14:35:26 GMT -6
OK let's all remember to give up after two and-a-half innings since that worked so well last night For sure. I mean really? Why would anyone doubt them when they came out and got behind by four runs immediately? After all, they HAD won one game in the last month at MMP, right? No reason for anyone to doubt them. |
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Post by bannedfan on Aug 28, 2018 14:37:58 GMT -6
Oakland A’s starter Brett Anderson, whom the Astros knocked out last night, is now on the DL with left forearm strain.
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Post by Saint on Aug 28, 2018 14:38:44 GMT -6
I'm not sure it's fair to say Marwin and Keuchel are playing for contracts. They've both been pretty good for multiple years now (Keuchel especially).
Marwin is still, imo, somewhere between a regular and a bench player, but he has to be one of the best utility players in the game (who would be better than him besides Zobrist?).
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 28, 2018 14:40:42 GMT -6
That does interest me. Marwin has stepped it up the second half like he is playing for a contract or something. Yeah, I still don't think he is somebody we should keep, but with his versatility and recent performance he'll likely get himself a little multi-year contract. In his last 5 seasons (the only seasons he appeared in 100+ games) he averages this line: 14 HR 51 RBI 6 SB .273/.330/.442 (.772 OPS 113 OPS+) 2.3 WAR With the way Marwin is producing right now, how can you say we should not consider keeping him? He plays every infield position and LF. Do we have another player with experience at all of those positions? NO, and neither does any other team. Up until about a month ago, I would have agreed with you, but, he has picked it up and is a major reason our offense has improved so much. I don't care what his WAR, OPS, or anything else is, as he is now, he is a very valuable member of this team. I like Gattis personally but, I wouldn't keep him because his salary can be used elsewhere. Somebody will sign him......maybe the Rangers since he is from Arlington. You are way too infatuated with WAR, OPS, etc. They are not totally worthless stats but they don't have close to the value you seem to place on them. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 28, 2018 14:42:03 GMT -6
Keuchel and Marwin are both producing right now like they want a new contract......Luhnow will offer both of them. He also needs to do all he can to re-sign Charlie Morton.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Aug 28, 2018 14:44:44 GMT -6
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Post by Saint on Aug 28, 2018 14:47:32 GMT -6
Yeah, I still don't think he is somebody we should keep, but with his versatility and recent performance he'll likely get himself a little multi-year contract. In his last 5 seasons (the only seasons he appeared in 100+ games) he averages this line: 14 HR 51 RBI 6 SB .273/.330/.442 (.772 OPS 113 OPS+) 2.3 WAR With the way Marwin is producing right now, how can you say we should not consider keeping him? He plays every infield position and LF. Do we have another player with experience at all of those positions? NO, and neither does any other team. Up until about a month ago, I would have agreed with you, but, he has picked it up and is a major reason our offense has improved so much. I don't care what his WAR, OPS, or anything else is, as he is now, he is a very valuable member of this team. I like Gattis personally but, I wouldn't keep him because his salary can be used elsewhere. Somebody will sign him......maybe the Rangers since he is from Arlington. You are way too infatuated with WAR, OPS, etc. They are not totally worthless stats but they don't have close to the value you seem to place on them. We have other younger cheaper options (or players that are already signed past next year) that can collectively cover the areas he can play. There were good Astros teams before Marwin Gonzalez... It has nothing to do with WAR or OPS (as I posted numerous other stats and praised him), it's about a finite amount of money and a lot of players that I feel we'd rather sign to longer contracts rather than tie up money with him. I'm not even sure why you felt the need to bring up WAR or OPS and my "infatuation" with them with your statement. Edit: I think it's fair to say that every single professional organization now places quite a bit of value on their importance (and in fact have people hired to work with them on a regular basis). It's old man yelling at the clouds status to complain about them. |
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Post by olpapa on Aug 28, 2018 14:52:37 GMT -6
Keuchel and Marwin are both producing right now like they want a new contract......Luhnow will offer both of them. He also needs to do all he can to re-sign Charlie Morton. The qualifying offer should be around $18 million this offseason. I think Luhnow will make the QO to Keuchel and Morton. I think Keuchel will decline, but could easily see Morton accepting. If both of them accept, that would be ok. I don’t think he will make the QO to Marwin. $18 million for one year of Marwin, should he accept the QO, would be a big-time overpay. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 28, 2018 14:56:07 GMT -6
Keuchel and Marwin are both producing right now like they want a new contract......Luhnow will offer both of them. He also needs to do all he can to re-sign Charlie Morton. The qualifying offer should be around $18 million this offseason. I think Luhnow will make the QO to Keuchel and Morton. I think Keuchel will decline, but could easily see Morton accepting. If both of them accept, that would be ok. I don’t think he will make the QO to Marwin. $18 million for one year of Marwin, should he accept the QO, would be a big-time overpay. Yes, there are way worse investments than $36 million for two 200+ IP starters pitching at 3.60 or less ERA clips. Marwin is an effective bench player and semi-regular, but nobody gets paid $18 million for that unless it's a bad contract. Between Kemp, White, Bregman, and Gurriel we should be fine. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 28, 2018 14:57:01 GMT -6
Marwin has to be the franchise’s best ever Rule V pickup.
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Post by olpapa on Aug 28, 2018 15:03:15 GMT -6
The qualifying offer should be around $18 million this offseason. I think Luhnow will make the QO to Keuchel and Morton. I think Keuchel will decline, but could easily see Morton accepting. If both of them accept, that would be ok. I don’t think he will make the QO to Marwin. $18 million for one year of Marwin, should he accept the QO, would be a big-time overpay. Yes, there are way worse investments than $36 million for two 200+ IP starters pitching at 3.60 or less ERA clips. Marwin is an effective bench player and semi-regular, but nobody gets paid $18 million for that unless it's a bad contract. Between Kemp, White, Bregman, and Gurriel we should be fine. I have a feeling that maybe by next season we will be able to throw Davis into the mix to help cover Marwin’s exit. I haven’t given up on Davis yet. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 28, 2018 15:08:20 GMT -6
Yes, there are way worse investments than $36 million for two 200+ IP starters pitching at 3.60 or less ERA clips. Marwin is an effective bench player and semi-regular, but nobody gets paid $18 million for that unless it's a bad contract. Between Kemp, White, Bregman, and Gurriel we should be fine. I have a feeling that maybe by next season we will be able to throw Davis into the mix to help cover Marwin’s exit. I haven’t given up on Davis yet. I'm just hoping that Tucker can permanently take over LF. |
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Post by sempersmom on Aug 28, 2018 15:19:26 GMT -6
So many wannabe GMs on the board. I'm so happy you guys are not in charge.
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Post by Saint on Aug 28, 2018 15:24:49 GMT -6
Springer
Bregman
Altuve
Correa
Gonzalez
White
Gurriel
Reddick
Maldonado
vs.
Martini
Chapman
Lowrie
Davis
Olson
Piscotty
Semien
Laureano
Lucroy
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Post by koolade2 on Aug 28, 2018 15:26:41 GMT -6
No matter what Hinch has to put Springer in leadoff. The place in the Lineup that sees the most at bats. Just Baffled.
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Post by olpapa on Aug 28, 2018 15:29:39 GMT -6
So many wannabe GMs on the board. I'm so happy you guys are not in charge. Ok. So you’re still hungover and suffering from jet lag, but you don’t have to come in here being cranky. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 28, 2018 15:30:05 GMT -6
Yeah we've beaten it to death, but the top-2 hitters should be Bregman and Altuve.
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 28, 2018 15:57:12 GMT -6
Keuchel and Marwin are both producing right now like they want a new contract......Luhnow will offer both of them. He also needs to do all he can to re-sign Charlie Morton. The qualifying offer should be around $18 million this offseason. I think Luhnow will make the QO to Keuchel and Morton. I think Keuchel will decline, but could easily see Morton accepting. If both of them accept, that would be ok. I don’t think he will make the QO to Marwin. $18 million for one year of Marwin, should he accept the QO, would be a big-time overpay. If the QO for Marwin would be $18 million, I would definitely decline to make it... |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 28, 2018 15:59:55 GMT -6
I have a feeling that maybe by next season we will be able to throw Davis into the mix to help cover Marwin’s exit. I haven’t given up on Davis yet. I'm just hoping that Tucker can permanently take over LF. Davis can't cover enough positions to do what Marwin does. I also hope that Tucker can become our regular left-fielder next season. Davis has yet to show he can stick on the roster. |
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Post by olpapa on Aug 28, 2018 16:00:40 GMT -6
The qualifying offer should be around $18 million this offseason. I think Luhnow will make the QO to Keuchel and Morton. I think Keuchel will decline, but could easily see Morton accepting. If both of them accept, that would be ok. I don’t think he will make the QO to Marwin. $18 million for one year of Marwin, should he accept the QO, would be a big-time overpay. If the QO for Marwin would be $18 million, I would definitely decline to make it... If Luhnow were to make the QO to Marwin, I’m sure he would jump all over it. That’s why I don’t think Luhnow will. |
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Post by Saint on Aug 28, 2018 16:10:22 GMT -6
I'm just hoping that Tucker can permanently take over LF. Davis can't cover enough positions to do what Marwin does. I also hope that Tucker can become our regular left-fielder next season. Davis has yet to show he can stick on the roster. If you have multiple guys that can play multiple positions, you don't need one guy that can play multiple positions for $18 million extra. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Aug 28, 2018 16:14:40 GMT -6
I said I would not give Marwin $18 million, but, that doesn't mean Davis should be his replacemnt. We need a guy like Merrifield for that.
I just noticed that Gurriel is the DH......He should be at first base beacause he is better than White at the position. White should be the DH
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Post by unionstation82 on Aug 28, 2018 16:32:17 GMT -6
The qualifying offer should be around $18 million this offseason. I think Luhnow will make the QO to Keuchel and Morton. I think Keuchel will decline, but could easily see Morton accepting. If both of them accept, that would be ok. I don’t think he will make the QO to Marwin. $18 million for one year of Marwin, should he accept the QO, would be a big-time overpay. If the QO for Marwin would be $18 million, I would definitely decline to make it... I think there’s really no bad 1-year deal unless it puts a team into luxury tax land. |
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Post by marshall on Aug 28, 2018 16:40:15 GMT -6
First Last Pos OPS+/ERA+1 George Springer CF 114 2 Alex Bregman 3B 156 3 Jose Altuve 2B 144 4 Carlos Correa SS 115 5 Marwin Gonzales LF 111 6 Tyler White 1B 180 7 Yuli Gurriel DH 102 8 Josh Reddick RF 101 9 Martin Maldonado C 114 P Charlie Morton SP 141
I can't remember another game in which every player has an above average OPS+/ERA+.
Of course not everyone is hot right now, but I've been waiting for it all year. It's a far cry from when the Astros would struggle to find 2 or 3 players they could bunch together to try to score a run or two (late 70s).
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Post by bannedfan on Aug 28, 2018 16:45:08 GMT -6
So many wannabe GMs on the board. I'm so happy you guys are not in charge. 😂😂😂😂😂 |
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