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Post by olpapa on Jul 19, 2018 6:53:24 GMT -6
Interesting. Tyler White was optioned to Fresno on the 16th, but hasn’t played in any of their 3 games since he was optioned. I wonder if he's the guy in line for that open roster spot and they're just waiting on the calendar to get to 10 days. I kinda doubt that they would go short handed until the 26th and then bring him back up. I could see why they would send him down while the team was on All-Star break so that he could continue to get at-bats while the big club is off. Kinda hard to understand why they would send him down and then not play him,unless they have a trade worked out involving him and are just waiting until today or tomorrow to announce the trade.
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Post by olpapa on Jul 19, 2018 7:20:22 GMT -6
Interesting. Tyler White was optioned to Fresno on the 16th, but hasn’t played in any of their 3 games since he was optioned. I wonder if he's the guy in line for that open roster spot and they're just waiting on the calendar to get to 10 days. There are exceptions to the rule that says that a player who is optioned cannot be recalled until 10 days have elapsed. Here, from Baseball Prospectus, are the exceptions: “If a player from the active list of the major-league club is placed on the Disabled List subsequent to the optional assignment, the optioned player can be recalled to take that roster spot before 10 days have elapsed. If the minor-league club’s season, including any playoffs, ends before the 10-day period has elapsed, then he can be recalled before the waiting period is over. If the optioned player is being assigned to another major-league club’s Active List via trade, he can be recalled to that roster before 10 days are up.”
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 19, 2018 7:29:02 GMT -6
From games played July 18: AAA - Sacramento (Giants) 12 Fresno 2 Myles Straw RF: 0-4, BA .289....something is wrong with this guy. He batted .367 in April and .361 in May at AA. He batted .350 in June at AAA. He went 6-12 in the 3 games from July 1-3. In 11 games since July 4 he is 6-42, batting .143, going hitless in 9 of those 11 games. He struck out 16 times and walked just 7 times in those 11 games. Prior to those 11 games he had struck out 55 times and walked 45 times. After going 4-5 on July 1, his batting average was .385. His average has dropped almost 100 points since. Derek Fisher LF: 0-3, BA .252 Jake Marisnick CF: 0-2, BA .321 AJ Reed 1B: 0-2, BA .261 Yordan Alvarez DH: 1-4, 1 HR(2), BA .172 Garrett Stubbs C: 1-4, BA .324 Antonio Nunez SS: 1-4, BA .206 Cy Sneed RHP: 4 IP, 8 H, 8 ER, 2 BB, 2 K, ERA 3.72 Kent Emanuel LHP: 3 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, ERA 5.05 Riley Ferrell RHP: 2 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, ERA 6.14 AA - Frisco (Rangers) 4 Corpus Christi 1 Chas McCormick CF: 1-4, BA .299 Stephen Wrenn RF: 1-4, BA .272 Abraham Toro DH: 0-5, BA .205 Randy Cesar 1B: 1-5, BA .323 Eduardo de Oleo C: 1-5, BA .194 Josh Rojas 3B: 2-3, 1 2B, BA .272....stole a base(15) Alex De Goti 2B: 3-4, BA .278....stole a base(4) Andy Pineda LF: 2-4, BA .368 Anibal Sierra SS: 1-4, BA .231 Brandon Bielak RHP: 5.2 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 4 BB, 5 K, ERA 0.82 Kit Scheetz LHP: 2 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 2 K, ERA 3.54 Ronel Blanco RHP: 1.1 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, ERA 3.00 He must have proposed or at least given his girlfriend a drawer. (i.e. Correa, Springer, Reddick)
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 19, 2018 7:30:24 GMT -6
Maybe Straw is tanking so he will not be traded.
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Post by olpapa on Jul 19, 2018 7:52:51 GMT -6
Maybe Straw is tanking so he will not be traded. What do you make of Tyler White being optioned to Fresno, but not playing once he got there?
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Post by thomasj13 on Jul 19, 2018 10:04:02 GMT -6
Maybe Straw is tanking so he will not be traded. What do you make of Tyler White being optioned to Fresno, but not playing once he got there? We all know it is a bad time to be White.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 19, 2018 10:37:03 GMT -6
What do you make of Tyler White being optioned to Fresno, but not playing once he got there? We all know it is a bad time to be White. I’m not even white, and I agree.
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Post by fanastro on Jul 19, 2018 11:12:13 GMT -6
Father's Day!
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Post by fanastro on Jul 19, 2018 11:12:46 GMT -6
From game played July 17: AAA - Fresno 8 Sacramento (Giants) 3 Jake Marisnick CF: 3-5, 1 2B, 1 HR(3), BA .346 Derek Fisher RF: 2-5, BA .257....stole a base(5) Taylor Jones DH: 2-5, BA .206 AJ Reed 1B: 0-4, BA .262 JD Davis 3B: 2-3, 1 2B, BA .340 Yordan Alvarez LF: 1-4, BA .160 Jack Mayfield 2B: 2-4, 1 2B, BA .267 Garrett Stubbs C: 1-4, BA .325 Josh James RHP: 6 IP, 4 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 12 K, ERA 3.51....rated Astros #30 prospect by mlb.com. He has struck out 128 batters in 80.1 IP this year between AA and AAA. He’s also walked 36 in those 80.1 innings. If he can overcome his control issues, I wonder if the team might consider trying to make a closer out of him. Ken Giles RHP: 1 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 K, ERA 0.00....can’t pitch a clean inning at AAA either, apparently. Dean Deetz RHP: 1 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, ERA 0.00 Buddy Boshers LHP: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 aeR, 0 BB, 2 K, ERA 2.25 Why was Marisnick in the lineup?
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Post by marshall on Jul 19, 2018 11:20:24 GMT -6
From game played July 17: AAA - Fresno 8 Sacramento (Giants) 3 Jake Marisnick CF: 3-5, 1 2B, 1 HR(3), BA .346 Derek Fisher RF: 2-5, BA .257....stole a base(5) Taylor Jones DH: 2-5, BA .206 AJ Reed 1B: 0-4, BA .262 JD Davis 3B: 2-3, 1 2B, BA .340 Yordan Alvarez LF: 1-4, BA .160 Jack Mayfield 2B: 2-4, 1 2B, BA .267 Garrett Stubbs C: 1-4, BA .325 Josh James RHP: 6 IP, 4 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 12 K, ERA 3.51....rated Astros #30 prospect by mlb.com. He has struck out 128 batters in 80.1 IP this year between AA and AAA. He’s also walked 36 in those 80.1 innings. If he can overcome his control issues, I wonder if the team might consider trying to make a closer out of him. Ken Giles RHP: 1 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 K, ERA 0.00....can’t pitch a clean inning at AAA either, apparently. Dean Deetz RHP: 1 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, ERA 0.00 Buddy Boshers LHP: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 aeR, 0 BB, 2 K, ERA 2.25 Why was Marisnick in the lineup? To bat .600?
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Post by olpapa on Jul 19, 2018 11:25:29 GMT -6
From game played July 17: AAA - Fresno 8 Sacramento (Giants) 3 Jake Marisnick CF: 3-5, 1 2B, 1 HR(3), BA .346 Derek Fisher RF: 2-5, BA .257....stole a base(5) Taylor Jones DH: 2-5, BA .206 AJ Reed 1B: 0-4, BA .262 JD Davis 3B: 2-3, 1 2B, BA .340 Yordan Alvarez LF: 1-4, BA .160 Jack Mayfield 2B: 2-4, 1 2B, BA .267 Garrett Stubbs C: 1-4, BA .325 Josh James RHP: 6 IP, 4 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 12 K, ERA 3.51....rated Astros #30 prospect by mlb.com. He has struck out 128 batters in 80.1 IP this year between AA and AAA. He’s also walked 36 in those 80.1 innings. If he can overcome his control issues, I wonder if the team might consider trying to make a closer out of him. Ken Giles RHP: 1 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 K, ERA 0.00....can’t pitch a clean inning at AAA either, apparently. Dean Deetz RHP: 1 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, ERA 0.00 Buddy Boshers LHP: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 aeR, 0 BB, 2 K, ERA 2.25 Why was Marisnick in the lineup? I think Jake is coming back to Houston before too long. I look for him to be on the playoff roster(s). He will likely be in Fresno’s lineup every game, except for a occasional day off here and there.
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Post by Saint on Jul 19, 2018 11:28:27 GMT -6
Why was Marisnick in the lineup? I think Jake is coming back to Houston before too long. I look for him to be on the playoff roster(s). He will likely be in Fresno’s lineup every game, except for a occasional day off here and there. Considering how much we used pinch runners and such in the postseason last year, I think you're right. They're going to want Jake to run and be a late-inning defensive replacement.
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Post by olpapa on Jul 19, 2018 11:41:40 GMT -6
I think Jake is coming back to Houston before too long. I look for him to be on the playoff roster(s). He will likely be in Fresno’s lineup every game, except for a occasional day off here and there. Considering how much we used pinch runners and such in the postseason last year, I think you're right. They're going to want Jake to run and be a late-inning defensive replacement. Now that Tucker is in Houston, the only outfielders on the Fresno roster are Fisher, Jake, Straw, Alvarez and Ferguson. Ferguson is on the DL and Alvarez can, and does, play first base from time to time to get his playing time so it’s not like Jake is impeding some prospect’s development by being in the lineup.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 19, 2018 12:15:57 GMT -6
I think Jake is coming back to Houston before too long. I look for him to be on the playoff roster(s). He will likely be in Fresno’s lineup every game, except for a occasional day off here and there. Considering how much we used pinch runners and such in the postseason last year, I think you're right. They're going to want Jake to run and be a late-inning defensive replacement. If that were the case, everything would be groovy. History shows us, however, that Jake will be in the starting lineup 3/5 days (and will suck 95% of the time)
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Post by Saint on Jul 19, 2018 12:47:28 GMT -6
Considering how much we used pinch runners and such in the postseason last year, I think you're right. They're going to want Jake to run and be a late-inning defensive replacement. If that were the case, everything would be groovy. History shows us, however, that Jake will be in the starting lineup 3/5 days (and will suck 95% of the time) Not in the postseason he wouldn't be.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 19, 2018 12:47:34 GMT -6
If they really want a pinch runner, they’d ask for Billy Hamilton as well in a Raisel Iglesias trade. Then, they can be done with the “we need Hake” excuse.
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Post by Saint on Jul 19, 2018 12:48:30 GMT -6
If they really want a pinch runner, they’d ask for Billy Hamilton as well in a Raisel Iglesias trade. Then, they can be done with the “we need Hake” excuse. Why would you trade for a guy to do something you already have a guy capable of doing?
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 19, 2018 12:51:17 GMT -6
If that were the case, everything would be groovy. History shows us, however, that Jake will be in the starting lineup 3/5 days (and will suck 95% of the time) Not in the postseason he wouldn't be. What do you base that upon?
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 19, 2018 12:57:16 GMT -6
If they really want a pinch runner, they’d ask for Billy Hamilton as well in a Raisel Iglesias trade. Then, they can be done with the “we need Hake” excuse. Why would you trade for a guy to do something you already have a guy capable of doing? Way faster than Jake. Better defense. Likely doesn’t cost much in terms of prospects.
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Post by Saint on Jul 19, 2018 12:57:26 GMT -6
Not in the postseason he wouldn't be. What do you base that upon? Go back and look at how many different lineups we had in the postseason last year. We didn't even rest McCann.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 19, 2018 14:17:24 GMT -6
Go back and look at AJs love affair with Joke this year.
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Post by Saint on Jul 19, 2018 14:23:42 GMT -6
Go back and look at AJs love affair with Joke this year. It's hard to completely compare since Reddick missed a good chunk of time and we haven't had a real LFer. I very much doubt that Marisnick would start a game in the postseason unless there was just a ridiculously dynamic lefty on the mound. And then, unfortunately, our options are limited for OFers since all Kemp, Tucker, and Reddick are lefthanded.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 19, 2018 14:27:44 GMT -6
He's used him over Fisher, over Reddick, over Kemp...
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Post by Saint on Jul 19, 2018 14:35:26 GMT -6
He's used him over Fisher, over Reddick, over Kemp... Regular season ain't the postseason.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 19, 2018 15:01:06 GMT -6
I'd rather not take the chance that we will have joke up there striking out in a close playoff game.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 19, 2018 16:15:01 GMT -6
Merrifield could easily make the three of us happier fans.
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Post by bearbryant on Jul 19, 2018 16:17:56 GMT -6
Merrifield could easily make the three of us happier fans. Y'all really want to make a mid-season trade for someone who won't play every day?
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Post by marshall on Jul 19, 2018 16:42:02 GMT -6
Merrifield could easily make the three of us happier fans. Honestly, I don't think he's be an improvement over Kemp. If Springer gets his stroke back, Kemp, Springer and Reddick are just fine. And if Tucker finds his MLB stroke like he's did in Spring Training and every other level, we already have too many outfielders.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jul 19, 2018 17:46:55 GMT -6
Kemp is a victim, on this forum, of the odd requirement that ALL players have to be Mike Trout-level players. Dude is hitting over .300, getting on base, stealing the occasional bag, playing good defense (weak arm and all), and playing HARD every play...and what does he get? Wishes for him to be replaced by some wanker who may or may not be a tad bit better, who will cost us other good prospects to get.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jul 19, 2018 17:49:30 GMT -6
Merrifield could easily make the three of us happier fans. Y'all really want to make a mid-season trade for someone who won't play every day?Merrifield at LF, Kemp DH, Gattis C
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