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Post by Saint on Apr 22, 2018 13:11:19 GMT -6
Not much.
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Post by olpapa on Apr 22, 2018 13:23:25 GMT -6
“Kemp is just as useless an Marisnick but without a good 2017 season.” “What am I missing with Kemp's .593 career OPS?” No. Actually, what you are missing is the fact that while Kemp has a .593 career OPS through 157 major league at-bats, Marisnick had a .449 OPS through his first 157 major league at-bats and now..., with 1,237 career at-bats to his credit is posting a .353 OPS after 51 at-bats in 2018. Kemp posted a .621 OPS in 120 at-bats in 2016 and a .500 OPS in 37 at-bats in 2017. So no. Kemp is not just as useless as Marisnick.
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Post by Saint on Apr 22, 2018 13:47:50 GMT -6
“Kemp is just as useless an Marisnick but without a good 2017 season.” “What am I missing with Kemp's .593 career OPS?” No. Actually, what you are missing is the fact that while Kemp has a .593 career OPS through 157 major league at-bats, Marisnick had a .449 OPS through his first 157 major league at-bats and now..., with 1,237 career at-bats to his credit is posting a .353 OPS after 51 at-bats in 2018. Kemp posted a .621 OPS in 120 at-bats in 2016 and a .500 OPS in 37 at-bats in 2017. So no. Kemp is not just as useless as Marisnick. One player being bad doesn't mean another bad player isn't bad. White would be an improvement. Kemp sucks.
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Post by olpapa on Apr 22, 2018 13:57:02 GMT -6
..., but not nearly as bad as Marisnick.
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Post by Saint on Apr 22, 2018 14:02:27 GMT -6
..., but not nearly as bad as Marisnick. Not this year. But hating Marisnick and wanting Kemp is not improving the team. Marisnick at least has more value defensively.
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Post by olpapa on Apr 22, 2018 14:09:30 GMT -6
Not much.
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Post by olpapa on Apr 22, 2018 14:17:24 GMT -6
When you consider that Kemp can play 2B, CF and LF, I’m not sure Marisnick has any more value defensively.
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Post by Saint on Apr 22, 2018 14:20:53 GMT -6
Yeah we really need a backup 2B with Altuve and Marwin...
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Post by m240 on Apr 22, 2018 15:47:37 GMT -6
Abdiel Saldana has pitched 19.2 innings over 4 starts so far this year and has not allowed a run.
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Post by olpapa on Apr 22, 2018 15:53:43 GMT -6
Yeah we really need a backup 2B with Altuve and Marwin... No need to discuss this with you. You just hate Kemp.
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Post by Saint on Apr 22, 2018 16:03:33 GMT -6
Yeah we really need a backup 2B with Altuve and Marwin... No need to discuss this with you. You just hate Kemp. Most ppl here hate someone. That's why the debates on who should play. I don't hate Kemp. I just don't think he's an improvement. Don't get upset.
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Post by olpapa on Apr 22, 2018 16:16:09 GMT -6
Not upset. Just no need for further discussion.
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Post by astrosdoug on Apr 22, 2018 17:32:01 GMT -6
Kemp strikes out very rarely (like, Aoki style) but the conundrum is that whereas he's managed to reach base a lot at AAA in all those ABs where he puts the ball in play, at the ML level so far, he just seems to ground/pop/fly out. The question is whether he'd start reaching base at a decent clip if he got 100 to 150 ABs at the ML level to show whether or not he can hack it.
I'm satisfied that White has demonstrated his ability to hit at the ML level, but arguably the team needs an OF up more than another infielder. The counterpoint to that is that with the way Gattis has been hitting, the team needs a new DH too and White fits that bill pretty well. Marwin's versatility gives Hinch some wiggle room with this decision.
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Post by olpapa on Apr 22, 2018 21:26:56 GMT -6
From games played April 22:
AAA - Reno 9 Fresno 4 Drew Ferguson CF- 2-3, 1 HR(2), BA .362 Kyle Tucker LF- 2-4, 1 2B, BA .271....threw a runner out at home JD Davis 3B- 2-3, BA .400 Jack Mayfield SS- 2-4, 1 2B, BA .246 Jon Kemmer DH- 1-4, 1 HR(4), BA .222 Alejandro Garcia RF- 2-4, BA .311 Francis Martes RHP- 4.2 IP, 11 H, 6 ER, 2 BB, 3 K, ERA 6.91 Reymin Guduan LHP- 1.1 IP, 3 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 3 K, ERA 4.22 Andrew Thome RHP- 2 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, ERA 8.76
AA - Corpus Christi 8 Frisco 6 Myles Straw CF- 1-4, 1 BB, BA .407 Yordan Alvarez LF- 2-4, 1 HR(3), BA .291 Taylor Jones 1B- 2-4, 1 HR(2), BA .375 Carmen Benedetti RF- 1-3, BA .302 Randy Cesar 3B- 2-4, 1 2B, BA .315 Ryne Birk 2B- 2-4, BA .278 Lorenzo Quintana C- 1-3, 1 2B, BA .259....stole a base(1) Alex De Goti SS- 1-4, BA .280 Alex Winkelman LHP- 5 IP, 7 H, 4 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, ERA 5.68 Cionel Perez LHP- 4 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, ERA 3.00
A Advanced - Buies Creek 3 Carolina 1 Ronnie Dawson CF- 1-3, 1 3B, BA .242 Josh Rojas LF- 1-3, 1 2B, BA .297....stole a base(12) Abraham Toro 3B- 1-2, 1 HR(2), BA .246....stole a base(3) Osvaldo Duarte 2B- 1-4, BA .210....stole a base(4) Carlos Canelon C- 1-3, BA .235 Anibal Sierra SS- 2-4, 1 2B, BA .294 Abdiel Saldaña RHP- 5.2 IP, 5 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, ERA 0.00....has not allowed a run in 19.2 IP Jesus Balaguer RHP- 1.1 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 2 K, ERA 4.50 Carlos Sierra RHP- 2 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, ERA 3.27
A - Game #1 Burlington 3 Quad Cities 2 Jake Adams 1B- 1-3, 1 2B, BA .220 Adrian Tovalin 3B- 2-3, 1 2B, BA .179 Marcos Almonte LF- 1-3, BA .242 Bryan De La Cruz DH- 1-3, 1 2B, BA .235 Gabriel Bracamonte C- 1-3, BA .214 Yohan Ramírez RHP- 0.2 IP, 4 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 2 K, ERA 7.04 Humberto Castellanos RHP- 5.1 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 5 K, ERA 0.00
Game #2 Quad Cities 3 Burlington 2 Corey Julks LF- 1-4, 1 2B, BA .204 Jonathan Arauz SS- 1-3, BA .283 Bryan De La Cruz RF- 2-3, BA .270 Jacob Meyers CF- 1-3, BA .194 Cristian Javier RHP- 3 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 5 BB, 5 K, ERA 1.64 Colin McKee RHP- 1.1 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 2 BB, 1 K, ERA 1.50 Dariel Aquino RHP- 1 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 2 BB, 1 K, ERA 0.00 Tanner Duncan RHP- 1.2 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 5 K, ERA 0.00
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 22, 2018 21:50:56 GMT -6
Martes the next Troy Patton? in terms of bust?
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 22, 2018 22:28:03 GMT -6
What's the word on Paulino and Armenteros?
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Post by olpapa on Apr 23, 2018 6:34:49 GMT -6
What's the word on Paulino and Armenteros? Paulino had bone chips removed from his elbow last September, but he had a excellent spring training with the Astros. He was placed on the 7-day DL by Fresno on April 5th and he is still listed as being on the 7-day DL. I can’t find any info as to why he is on the DL. I have fired off an email to Jayne Hansen at the What the Heck Bobby site. If anyone has any info on him, she should. Armenteros is on the active roster with Fresno. He has made 3 starts...two bad and one good. He should be due to start again on Wednesday.
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Post by olpapa on Apr 23, 2018 6:50:01 GMT -6
Martes the next Troy Patton? in terms of bust? Beginning to look that way.
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Post by olpapa on Apr 23, 2018 7:02:12 GMT -6
What's the word on Paulino and Armenteros? I just checked the Fresno website and Armenteros is projected to be the starter in the Thursday game.
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Post by olpapa on Apr 23, 2018 7:17:04 GMT -6
Some of our minor league pitchers who are off to a good start:
AAA - Kent Emanuel LHP— 3 games, 16.2 IP, 9 H, 2 BB, 16 K, 2 ER AA - Josh James RHP — 3 games, 13 IP, 8 H, 2 BB, 23 K, 2 ER A Advanced - Abdiel Saldaña RHP — 4 games, 19.2 IP, 12 H, 3 BB, 12 K, 0 ER A - Parker Mushinski LHP — 2 games, 7.1 IP, 4 H, 3 BB, 13 K, 0 ER
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 23, 2018 7:33:30 GMT -6
Martes the next Troy Patton? in terms of bust? Beginning to look that way. That is unfortunate...really would have been great for the team had Martes, along with McCullers, Whitley and Bukakke, were the starting rotation in 2020/2021...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 7:37:27 GMT -6
Beginning to look that way. That is unfortunate...really would have been great for the team had Martes, along with McCullers, Whitley and Bukakke, were the starting rotation in 2020/2021... From what I remember seeing Martes has electric stuff. Maybe he can be converted to a setup or closer role.
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Post by thomasj13 on Apr 23, 2018 7:42:10 GMT -6
That is unfortunate...really would have been great for the team had Martes, along with McCullers, Whitley and Bukakke, were the starting rotation in 2020/2021... From what I remember seeing Martes has electric stuff. Maybe he can be converted to a setup or closer role. He does, or at least did....he might have to go bullpen route, but way better for the team if he didn't.
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Post by olpapa on Apr 23, 2018 7:54:33 GMT -6
From what I remember seeing Martes has electric stuff. Maybe he can be converted to a setup or closer role. He does, or at least did....he might have to go bullpen route, but way better for the team if he didn't. Martes is still just 22 years old. Maybe he will get better as he matures emotionally.
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Post by m240 on Apr 23, 2018 8:35:39 GMT -6
He does, or at least did....he might have to go bullpen route, but way better for the team if he didn't. Martes is still just 22 years old. Maybe he will get better as he matures emotionally. Martes is lacking what a lot of lesser talents have had to master. He does not seem to have the mental discipline to repeat his delivery. Unfortunately he has had such great stuff he has been able to excel on just "stuff". Now he is at a level where the guys are starting to get the mental discipline themselves to wait for something they like early and protect late in counts. So without that discipline I doubt he ever gets any better than what we have seen so far as a starter or reliever. In my opinion Houston having a surplus of starters this year will work in his favor if he pays attention. He should be held at the AAA level until he demonstrates on a longer term basis the mental capacity to repeat his delivery over a protracted period. If and when he does, and I will again stress this is just the opinion of some old dude, then he will become what we all want him to become, a dominate starter in mlb.
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 23, 2018 11:16:07 GMT -6
I have to hope that Whitley is learning from his mistake and will turn into the ace he is projected to be. Martes has the phsycial talent but it appears that may be it.
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Post by Saint on Apr 23, 2018 12:43:51 GMT -6
Kemp strikes out very rarely (like, Aoki style) but the conundrum is that whereas he's managed to reach base a lot at AAA in all those ABs where he puts the ball in play, at the ML level so far, he just seems to ground/pop/fly out. The question is whether he'd start reaching base at a decent clip if he got 100 to 150 ABs at the ML level to show whether or not he can hack it. I'm satisfied that White has demonstrated his ability to hit at the ML level, but arguably the team needs an OF up more than another infielder. The counterpoint to that is that with the way Gattis has been hitting, the team needs a new DH too and White fits that bill pretty well. Marwin's versatility gives Hinch some wiggle room with this decision. I feel like that, when needed, White could play LF well enough to make it worthwhile. As long as he hits okay. I still say you need either Fisher or Marisnick as a defensive replacement and pinch runner though.
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Post by blcoach8 on Apr 23, 2018 14:16:11 GMT -6
Kemp strikes out very rarely (like, Aoki style) but the conundrum is that whereas he's managed to reach base a lot at AAA in all those ABs where he puts the ball in play, at the ML level so far, he just seems to ground/pop/fly out. The question is whether he'd start reaching base at a decent clip if he got 100 to 150 ABs at the ML level to show whether or not he can hack it. I'm satisfied that White has demonstrated his ability to hit at the ML level, but arguably the team needs an OF up more than another infielder. The counterpoint to that is that with the way Gattis has been hitting, the team needs a new DH too and White fits that bill pretty well. Marwin's versatility gives Hinch some wiggle room with this decision. I feel like that, when needed, White could play LF well enough to make it worthwhile. As long as he hits okay. I still say you need either Fisher or Marisnick as a defensive replacement and pinch runner though. White, Davis, or Kemp would be an upgrade over Fisher.
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Post by Saint on Apr 23, 2018 14:22:02 GMT -6
I feel like that, when needed, White could play LF well enough to make it worthwhile. As long as he hits okay. I still say you need either Fisher or Marisnick as a defensive replacement and pinch runner though. White, Davis, or Kemp would be an upgrade over Fisher. Offensively right now, sure. But we still need somebody for late inning moves. Marisnick did well in that role last year. Fisher is still a high potential prospect so I'd rather him get plenty of PT down in AAA and see if he can work out of this.
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Post by olpapa on Apr 23, 2018 19:27:27 GMT -6
From game played afternoon of April 23:
AAA - Reno 3 Fresno 2 Tony Kemp CF- 1-5, BA .324 Kyle Tucker RF- 1-4, 1 2B, BA .270 Tyler White 2B- 1-3, BA .308 JD Davis 3B- 1-5, BA .375 AJ Reed 1B- 2-3,BA .258 Tim Federowitz C- 2-4, 1 HR(2), BA .433 Jack Mayfield SS- 1-3, BA .250 Trent Thornton RHP- 6 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 9 K, ERA 3.93 Matt Ramsey RHP- 0.2 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K, ERA 3.93 Buddy Boshers LHP- 0.1 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, ERA 4.50 Brendan McCurry RHP- 1 IP, 3 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 0 K, ERA 5.56
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