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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 17, 2018 22:30:30 GMT -6
The 3rd year option gives one year past Reddick's FA...Reddick's value, for the moment, is down... The only thing is now they still have to worry about the starting pitching. I don’t know what they do now to replace CFM, Twitchy, and Beardo. I trust Luhnow's eye for pitching talent considerably more than hitting, so I think the Astros are in good shape on having a very successful off-season.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 17, 2018 22:31:00 GMT -6
100th page on this thread, not bad.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 17, 2018 22:33:39 GMT -6
Trade Reddick and sign Cruz: juggernaut offense. I don't see the Astros having many takers for Reddick...If he can revert back to 2017 Reddick then the Astros OF will be very good.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 17, 2018 22:42:04 GMT -6
If the Phillies miss out on Harper and Machado I could see them being interested in Reddick.
I wouldnt want Grienke but Reddick there
Ray's as possible.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 17, 2018 22:49:01 GMT -6
Just heard that Avisail Garcia is drawing intriguing interest from Houston. Hmmm I vote a big NO on that one. We signed Brantley and don't need Garcia. We NEED a starting pitcher.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 17, 2018 22:50:52 GMT -6
I hope you are right. Adding Brantley and Cruz to our lineup adds a lot of offense. Cruz and Brantley, plus the addition of a better hitting catcher would be a huge offensive improvement over last year. But do you keep both Yuli and White... Yuli can play what positions: 1b, 2b, and 3rd? White can play: 1b and LF? Diaz is 2nd, SS, and 3B? Kemp is LF and 2b? Straw all OF positions Marisnick all OF positions. Seems like Kemp and Jake (monetary) are most expendable...followed by? White? Trade Kemp and White......Keep Jake.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 17, 2018 22:53:18 GMT -6
Trade Reddick and sign Cruz: juggernaut offense. Sign Cruz and then worry about trading Reddick. I can see Reddick, Kemp, and White going to Arizona for Greinke. I doubt that package gets us Kluber unless we throw in pitching prospects.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 17, 2018 22:54:09 GMT -6
Trade Reddick and sign Cruz: juggernaut offense. Sign Cruz and then worry about trading Reddick. I can see Reddick, Kemp, and White going to Arizona for Greinke. I doubt that package gets us Kluber unless we throw in pitching prospects. Why not try for cheaper options?
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 17, 2018 23:11:02 GMT -6
What about Duffy for Reddick?
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 17, 2018 23:13:39 GMT -6
Then you can try and sweeten the offer for Salvador Perez. Maybe Stassi, J.B, Marisnick and prospect?
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 17, 2018 23:14:36 GMT -6
What about Duffy for Reddick? NO
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 17, 2018 23:16:39 GMT -6
Then you can try and sweeten the offer for Salvador Perez. Maybe Stassi, J.B, Marisnick and prospect? Make that Stassi, J.B., Kemp and a prospect and it could get done, especially if the prospect is a pitcher. You sure do want to get rid of Jake for some reason. Are you taking cues from Bortaz?
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 17, 2018 23:23:30 GMT -6
Then you can try and sweeten the offer for Salvador Perez. Maybe Stassi, J.B, Marisnick and prospect? Make that Stassi, J.B., Kemp and a prospect and it could get done, especially if the prospect is a pitcher. You sure do want to get rid of Jake for some reason. Are you taking cues from Bortaz? No if they wanna save money then its Jake keep Straw and Kemp. Reddick and Marisnick would have to go.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 17, 2018 23:25:20 GMT -6
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 18, 2018 0:22:16 GMT -6
Make that Stassi, J.B., Kemp and a prospect and it could get done, especially if the prospect is a pitcher. You sure do want to get rid of Jake for some reason. Are you taking cues from Bortaz? No if they wanna save money then its Jake keep Straw and Kemp. Reddick and Marisnick would have to go. I am all for saving money,but,Kemp is the weakest defender in the outfield and must be horrible at 2B because Hinch refused to play him there while Altuve was injured. He needs to be the one to go with Reddick.
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Post by marshall on Dec 18, 2018 1:57:20 GMT -6
Agreed 100%. A third year team option would be dynamite. The 3rd year option gives one year past Reddick's FA... Reddick's value, for the moment, is down... A wise businessman once told me you buy low and sell high. If Luhnow also follows this philosophy, then White and Kemp would be the better trade chips.
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Post by marshall on Dec 18, 2018 2:02:44 GMT -6
The only thing is now they still have to worry about the starting pitching. I don’t know what they do now to replace CFM, Twitchy, and Beardo. I trust Luhnow's eye for pitching talent considerably more than hitting, so I think the Astros are in good shape on having a very successful off-season. My biggest concern is the loss of so many talent evaluators from the organization. I just wonder if some of Luhnows reputation may have been a result of some of those folks, or at a minimum, that talent may be replicated on other teams now after working with the Astros. The low hanging fruit may not be as accessible as it once was.
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Post by marshall on Dec 18, 2018 2:07:51 GMT -6
I'm not sure I'd trust the East coast Sports and Politics Network.
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Post by marshall on Dec 18, 2018 2:34:18 GMT -6
If the lineup replicated merely the best of it's last two seasons in 2019, this would be a very formidable lineup. First Last Pos Year OPS+ 1 Jose Altuve 2B 2017 160 2 Alex Bregman 3B 2018 156 3 Carlos Correa SS 2017 155 4 Tyler White 1B/DH 2018 143 5 George Springer CF 2017 141 6 Josh Reddick RF 2017 130 7 Michael Brantly LF 2018 123 8 Yuli Gurriel 1B/DH 2017 121 9 Robinson Chirinos C 2017 120
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 18, 2018 4:49:17 GMT -6
With Brantley on board, the Astros now project to have a team K% of 18.4%, which ought to be about the best in MLB. Team OPS+ projects to be 115, which ought to be in the Top 3.
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Post by m240 on Dec 18, 2018 7:23:22 GMT -6
With Brantley on board, the Astros now project to have a team K% of 18.4%, which ought to be about the best in MLB. Team OPS+ projects to be 115, which ought to be in the Top 3. So there is still work to do.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2018 7:31:03 GMT -6
With Brantley on board, the Astros now project to have a team K% of 18.4%, which ought to be about the best in MLB. Team OPS+ projects to be 115, which ought to be in the Top 3. So there is still work to do. I'd love to get another bat, but if we don't I'll be happy with our lineup. We however DO need to get another SP.
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Post by m240 on Dec 18, 2018 7:36:34 GMT -6
I trust Luhnow's eye for pitching talent considerably more than hitting, so I think the Astros are in good shape on having a very successful off-season. My biggest concern is the loss of so many talent evaluators from the organization. I just wonder if some of Luhnows reputation may have been a result of some of those folks, or at a minimum, that talent may be replicated on other teams now after working with the Astros. The low hanging fruit may not be as accessible as it once was. All of those guys are gone now and Luhnow has just started the work of perfecting liquid analytics. There have been several noted studies on the value of internal churn and continued organizational advancement. The consensus of opinion was that disruption was necessary to continue to advance and that disruption should occur more or less every 36 months. So if Luhnow is a great manager, and I think that he is, then he has people already in place to implement his next advancement in organizational development. Forever improving, a team driven to excellence.
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Post by Saint on Dec 18, 2018 8:49:26 GMT -6
I'm not sure why we want to give up Reddick. He didn't have a great year by any means, but he was still a solid player and there is no reason to believe he won't bounce back pretty well. If we trade him now we won't get much for him anyways.
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Post by m240 on Dec 18, 2018 9:02:26 GMT -6
I'm not sure why we want to give up Reddick. He didn't have a great year by any means, but he was still a solid player and there is no reason to believe he won't bounce back pretty well. If we trade him now we won't get much for him anyways. Reddick is now the weakest bat in the lineup. Adding another bat pushes him out in most of those options. Trade him to Arizona as part of the Grienke deal.
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Post by olpapa on Dec 18, 2018 9:04:28 GMT -6
I'm not sure why we want to give up Reddick. He didn't have a great year by any means, but he was still a solid player and there is no reason to believe he won't bounce back pretty well. If we trade him now we won't get much for him anyways. I’m guessing they want to move his salary to free up some payroll for a significant SP they are looking at obtaining and replace him in RF with Tucker at minimum wage.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 18, 2018 9:10:11 GMT -6
I'm not sure why we want to give up Reddick. He didn't have a great year by any means, but he was still a solid player and there is no reason to believe he won't bounce back pretty well. If we trade him now we won't get much for him anyways. He's just the flavor of the day, with this fanbase. It was Yuli a week ago, Correa before that, someone else next week.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 18, 2018 9:13:03 GMT -6
Now that #Astros have Michael Brantley committed they need starting pitching and a DH. I think they should sign Daniel Murphy to DH/1B/2B. He brings balance to lineup and fits their offensive style. Bergman, Springer, Altuve, Brantley, Correa, Murphy, Gurriel, Reddick, Chirinos.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 18, 2018 9:14:14 GMT -6
This was said as if they could miss on Cruz by Steven Phillips
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Post by Saint on Dec 18, 2018 9:16:12 GMT -6
I'm not sure why we want to give up Reddick. He didn't have a great year by any means, but he was still a solid player and there is no reason to believe he won't bounce back pretty well. If we trade him now we won't get much for him anyways. Reddick is now the weakest bat in the lineup. Adding another bat pushes him out in most of those options. Trade him to Arizona as part of the Grienke deal. With Brantley a health concern and Tucker unproven, giving up a proven OFer doesn't seem smart.
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