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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 18, 2018 11:19:01 GMT -6
I’m not interested in Abreu or Garcia. Much less on Garcia.
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Post by Saint on Dec 18, 2018 11:24:04 GMT -6
If they go after Realmuto for Tucker it would signal that they're in total win-now mode. I'm sure we're still interested, but I'd be surprised if we went hard for Realmuto.
Something else that the Brantley deal eliminates, IF we did have interest in Harper you'd have to imagine that's over with now.
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 18, 2018 11:30:51 GMT -6
With Michael Brantley about to be an Astro it seems Houston might be more amenable to trading top OF prospect Kyle Tucker in potential Realmuto deal, as @joefrisaro pointed out. Marlins want Outfielders and lefty hitters. Fit makes sense. The word is the Astros may know something about Tucker that make them think he wont be as good as thought to be You might be onto something there, when at the end of the season for Morton calling his only move was the Stros or social security. Then with no Stros interest signs with the Rays and a questionable shoulder. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 18, 2018 11:32:21 GMT -6
If they go after Realmuto for Tucker it would signal that they're in total win-now mode. I'm sure we're still interested, but I'd be surprised if we went hard for Realmuto. Something else that the Brantley deal eliminates, IF we did have interest in Harper you'd have to imagine that's over with now. Harper who wants to have the richest contract in MLB History, might find the number of callers dwindling. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 18, 2018 11:32:53 GMT -6
If they go after Realmuto for Tucker it would signal that they're in total win-now mode. I'm sure we're still interested, but I'd be surprised if we went hard for Realmuto. Something else that the Brantley deal eliminates, IF we did have interest in Harper you'd have to imagine that's over with now. For sure. Harper is a past thought. Unless he wants a 1/3 of what he was asking for.lol But you would still have to think Astros GM Lunhow is a Jedi Master when it comes to crazy trades. I'll leave this like this. A couple years ago Derek Fisher was a untouchable as untouchable players could be. But where is he now? Dont be fooled Tucker could be Fisher. Which makes some to believe the Astros could understand that. Or have another couple of moves up there sleeves. Reddick could still be moved to free up cash. Its not out of the question. It makes perfect since with the FAs that are available. CATCHER is a premium postion a much hard postion to find then most in Baseball. So think about that |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 18, 2018 11:34:00 GMT -6
With Michael Brantley about to be an Astro it seems Houston might be more amenable to trading top OF prospect Kyle Tucker in potential Realmuto deal, as @joefrisaro pointed out. Marlins want Outfielders and lefty hitters. Fit makes sense. The word is the Astros may know something about Tucker that make them think he wont be as good as thought to be You might be onto something there, when at the end of the season for Morton calling his only move was the Stros or social security. Then with no Stros interest signs with the Rays and a questionable shoulder. DEREK FISHER |
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Post by Saint on Dec 18, 2018 11:34:53 GMT -6
If they go after Realmuto for Tucker it would signal that they're in total win-now mode. I'm sure we're still interested, but I'd be surprised if we went hard for Realmuto. Something else that the Brantley deal eliminates, IF we did have interest in Harper you'd have to imagine that's over with now. Harper who wants to have the richest contract in MLB History, might find the number of callers dwindling. I still think there is a $35 million a year contract out there for him. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 18, 2018 11:46:35 GMT -6
Harper who wants to have the richest contract in MLB History, might find the number of callers dwindling. I still think there is a $35 million a year contract out there for him. Nationals. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 18, 2018 11:54:37 GMT -6
I still think there is a $35 million a year contract out there for him. Nationals. I can't imagine they still have the funds for that at this point, and I don't think he would be willing to crawl back to them after supposedly turning down their previous offer. |
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Post by m240 on Dec 18, 2018 11:57:01 GMT -6
If they go after Realmuto for Tucker it would signal that they're in total win-now mode. I'm sure we're still interested, but I'd be surprised if we went hard for Realmuto. Something else that the Brantley deal eliminates, IF we did have interest in Harper you'd have to imagine that's over with now. For sure. Harper is a past thought. Unless he wants a 1/3 of what he was asking for.lol But you would still have to think Astros GM Lunhow is a Jedi Master when it comes to crazy trades. I'll leave this like this. A couple years ago Derek Fisher was a untouchable as untouchable players could be. But where is he now? Dont be fooled Tucker could be Fisher. Which makes some to believe the Astros could understand that. Or have another couple of moves up there sleeves. Reddick could still be moved to free up cash. Its not out of the question. It makes perfect since with the FAs that are available. CATCHER is a premium postion a much hard postion to find then most in Baseball. So think about that We tried to trade Fisher as part of the deal for Giles but had to give them Appel instead. If they trade Tucker though I would agree with you that something is wrong with Tucker's prospects now as Luhnow has really only missed on two prospects that he has traded, Folty and Hader. Other than those two guys I can not think of any guys that we would want back. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 18, 2018 12:00:20 GMT -6
Lynn to the Rangers 3-years $30 million.
Rangers are desperate...
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Post by bearbryant on Dec 18, 2018 12:07:33 GMT -6
For sure. Harper is a past thought. Unless he wants a 1/3 of what he was asking for.lol But you would still have to think Astros GM Lunhow is a Jedi Master when it comes to crazy trades. I'll leave this like this. A couple years ago Derek Fisher was a untouchable as untouchable players could be. But where is he now? Dont be fooled Tucker could be Fisher. Which makes some to believe the Astros could understand that. Or have another couple of moves up there sleeves. Reddick could still be moved to free up cash. Its not out of the question. It makes perfect since with the FAs that are available. CATCHER is a premium postion a much hard postion to find then most in Baseball. So think about that We tried to trade Fisher as part of the deal for Giles but had to give them Appel instead. If they trade Tucker though I would agree with you that something is wrong with Tucker's prospects now as Luhnow has really only missed on two prospects that he has traded, Folty and Hader. Other than those two guys I can not think of any guys that we would want back.
major leaguer in return for those like a competent GM should approach it
Regarding the FA $igning I like how we're warded off against injury in the OF now and Marisnick could possibly start the season in Round Rock. And Hinch will have fun with the revolving
lineup card if Tucker doesn't get traded before Spring training |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 18, 2018 12:09:28 GMT -6
With Michael Brantley about to be an Astro it seems Houston might be more amenable to trading top OF prospect Kyle Tucker in potential Realmuto deal, as @joefrisaro pointed out. Marlins want Outfielders and lefty hitters. Fit makes sense. The word is the Astros may know something about Tucker that make them think he wont be as good as thought to be and, where did "the word" come from that says Tucker may not be as good as they thought? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 18, 2018 12:09:57 GMT -6
I’m not interested in Abreu or Garcia. Much less on Garcia. Ditto.........I don't want either of them. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 18, 2018 12:13:34 GMT -6
Add 2 SPs (one excellent and the other very good - such as Greinke/Fulmer) and this should be, on paper, the best-looking Astros lineup in franchise history.
I'm all for tweaking the position player roster if there are sensible upgrades to be made, but I'd think the focus now has to shift to pitching.
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 18, 2018 12:13:56 GMT -6
Harper who wants to have the richest contract in MLB History, might find the number of callers dwindling. I still think there is a $35 million a year contract out there for him. No way would I give that arrogant asshole close to that. He may get it, butl we should not give it to him. I hope he and Boras keep dragging this out until they have to settle for much less than they want. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 18, 2018 12:16:10 GMT -6
Add 2 SPs (one excellent and the other very good - such as Greinke/Fulmer) and this should be, on paper, the best-looking Astros lineup in franchise history. I'm all for tweaking the position player roster if there are sensible upgrades to be made, but I'd think the focus now has to shift to pitching. I would prefer Fulmer.......cheaper and under club control for a longer period of time. |
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Post by bearbryant on Dec 18, 2018 12:23:00 GMT -6
I will tell you this if the Lunhow some how pulls of Realmuto and Cruz with out giving up Tucker or Whitley or James or Martin. He may go down as one of the best GMs in this era
on the other side of the ring with a package like that |
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Post by Saint on Dec 18, 2018 12:28:53 GMT -6
I will tell you this if the Lunhow some how pulls of Realmuto and Cruz with out giving up Tucker or Whitley or James or Martin. He may go down as one of the best GMs in this era
on the other side of the ring with a package like thatI hope that doesn't happen, personally. Realmuto would be a nice addition, but not for that cost. If we're going to give up Tucker I'd prefer it to be for a controllable pitcher. |
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Post by bearbryant on Dec 18, 2018 12:42:28 GMT -6
Astros are back in the mix for Realmuto cause a package around Tucker and Stubbs is probably what Miami wants in return. Luhnow's gonna knock most of the JTM suitors to the canvas with their mouthpiece
on the other side of the ring with a package like that I hope that doesn't happen, personally. Realmuto would be a nice addition, but not for that cost. If we're going to give up Tucker I'd prefer it to be for a controllable pitcher.
prospect in tow
I wonder if a trade for Realmuto would entice Keuchel to come back on a 3-yr deal. I'd give him $60M. That's a way to manage all the innings that need to be pitched in the seasons ahead if we can't
trade for a controllable starter whose name isn't Sonny Gray between now and then. We'd probably have to pay the luxury tax though and Crane doesn't wanna do that |
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Post by Saint on Dec 18, 2018 12:49:22 GMT -6
I hope that doesn't happen, personally. Realmuto would be a nice addition, but not for that cost. If we're going to give up Tucker I'd prefer it to be for a controllable pitcher.
prospect in tow
I wonder if a trade for Realmuto would entice Keuchel to come back on a 3-yr deal. I'd give him $60M. That's a way to manage all the innings that need to be pitched in the seasons ahead if we can't
trade for a controllable starter whose name isn't Sonny Gray between now and then. We'd probably have to pay the luxury tax though and Crane doesn't wanna do thatI guess that scenario comes down to: would you settle for $60 million when you could probably get at least $15-20 million more? |
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 18, 2018 12:59:01 GMT -6
I hope that doesn't happen, personally. Realmuto would be a nice addition, but not for that cost. If we're going to give up Tucker I'd prefer it to be for a controllable pitcher.
prospect in tow
I wonder if a trade for Realmuto would entice Keuchel to come back on a 3-yr deal. I'd give him $60M. That's a way to manage all the innings that need to be pitched in the seasons ahead if we can't
trade for a controllable starter whose name isn't Sonny Gray between now and then. We'd probably have to pay the luxury tax though and Crane doesn't wanna do thatIt is supply and demand, but if choosing will Dallas go for more $$$ with a non contender and take less with a contender. The other day on "High Heat" they brought back the scenario with Lester signing with the Cubs on a rebuild. There is some talk about the Padres looking at him. Time will tell. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 18, 2018 13:01:55 GMT -6
Well, looks like there's no immediate hope of getting Beltran into the Astros front office. He's gone and signed with the Yankees.
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Post by bearbryant on Dec 18, 2018 13:11:21 GMT -6
The future is important but we're also an organization that's positioned on the brink of a World Series title. It's just what competent MLB GMs do when you're in that position and you have an elite
prospect in tow
I wonder if a trade for Realmuto would entice Keuchel to come back on a 3-yr deal. I'd give him $60M. That's a way to manage all the innings that need to be pitched in the seasons ahead if we can't
trade for a controllable starter whose name isn't Sonny Gray between now and then. We'd probably have to pay the luxury tax though and Crane doesn't wanna do that I guess that scenario comes down to: would you settle for $60 million when you could probably get at least $15-20 million more?
of the fanbase groaning about Keuchel |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 18, 2018 13:20:52 GMT -6
I will tell you this if the Lunhow some how pulls of Realmuto and Cruz with out giving up Tucker or Whitley or James or Martin. He may go down as one of the best GMs in this era
on the other side of the ring with a package like thatI don’t know if I’m liking these deals without Luhnow deciding to pony up on some extensions. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 18, 2018 13:23:49 GMT -6
I guess that scenario comes down to: would you settle for $60 million when you could probably get at least $15-20 million more?
of the fanbase groaning about KeuchelOf course they'll really be groaning if we can't find a replacement as good as him. |
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Post by bearbryant on Dec 18, 2018 13:30:41 GMT -6
Astros are back in the mix for Realmuto cause a package around Tucker and Stubbs is probably what Miami wants in return. Luhnow's gonna knock most of the JTM suitors to the canvas with their mouthpiece
on the other side of the ring with a package like that I don’t know if I’m liking these deals without Luhnow d coding to pony up on some extensions. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 18, 2018 13:33:22 GMT -6
Astros are back in the mix for Realmuto cause a package around Tucker and Stubbs is probably what Miami wants in return. Luhnow's gonna knock most of the JTM suitors to the canvas with their mouthpiece
on the other side of the ring with a package like that I hope that doesn't happen, personally. Realmuto would be a nice addition, but not for that cost. If we're going to give up Tucker I'd prefer it to be for a controllable pitcher. The ONLY was I would include Tucker in a trade would be for a quality starting pitcher. If Miami has not lowered their asking price, I don't think Luhnow makes the trade. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 18, 2018 13:36:04 GMT -6
Well, looks like there's no immediate hope of getting Beltran into the Astros front office. He's gone and signed with the Yankees. We should have tried to sign him before now. More feet dragging by the Astros. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 18, 2018 13:38:14 GMT -6
He's the best available #3 and we need that right now. All things being equal price shouldn't matter to a contending club in our situation. On the other hand I don't know if I could handle 4 more years
of the fanbase groaning about Keuchel Of course they'll really be groaning if we can't find a replacement as good as him. Should be able to find a guy who consistently gets us three runs behind in the first inning for less than $20 million a year. |
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