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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 29, 2018 22:15:41 GMT -6
Give them Jake and or Fisher. Maybe Reddick... I would think Marisnick, Fisher and J D. Davis could get that deal done. Save Devinski for a deal for Martinez Jake would fit in get with the Mets in their no-hit offense. LOL |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 22:19:02 GMT -6
Here is a little chart that tries to rank the 2018 Astros in terms of consistency at the plate. I only looked at months in which a hitter had at least 20 PA's. The idea is to get an objective view of how often a player was contributing at a level above the league average.  The Astros are numbers guys. I think Yuli and Reddick both have worn out there welcome and most likely are getting the blame for the Lost season. Money is also an issue. That money comming off the books for the next two years would help the Astros. Martinez DH LUGO Sp/Rp Realmuto C Grichuk Lf/Rf/DH/1b If you add those guys u can still add a RP and be very very competitive and most likely favorites for the WS |
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 29, 2018 22:24:04 GMT -6
Here is a little chart that tries to rank the 2018 Astros in terms of consistency at the plate. I only looked at months in which a hitter had at least 20 PA's. The idea is to get an objective view of how often a player was contributing at a level above the league average. The Astros are numbers guys. I think Yuli and Reddick both have worn out there welcome and most likely are getting the blame for the Lost season. Money is also an issue. That money comming off the books for the next two years would help the Astros. Martinez DH LUGO Sp/Rp Realmuto C Grichuk Lf/Rf/DH/1b If you add those guys u can still add a RP and be very very competitive and most likely favorites for the WS Good chart to explain the on again--off again offense for the season. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 22:25:29 GMT -6
I would think Marisnick, Fisher and J D. Davis could get that deal done. Save Devinski for a deal for Martinez Jake would fit in get with the Mets in their no-hit offense. LOL Fisher should have been gone along time ago. Jake well his only attribute is Def. Davis is your lotto ticket you gotta stick him out there and let him run all year |
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 29, 2018 22:27:08 GMT -6
It's a good thing for the Astros that all of the Top 5 Most Consistently Good Hitters from 2018 are still on the 40-man roster.
While some fans might be eager to trade Kemp, I'm pretty sure other teams' GMs are taking note of the fact that he did, in fact, produce at the plate better than league average for most of the 2018 season. If the Astros retain Kemp, it won't disappoint me in the least.
Gurriel and Reddick are the most worrisome players in terms of consistency who must be placed on the OD roster, only meeting the .750 OPS benchmark a third of the time last year.
Viewed in this light, losing Marwin was not a very big loss at all. His presumptive replacement, Aledmys Diaz, surpassed the .750 OPS mark in 4 out of the 6 months he played with Toronto last year, which would make him about as consistent as George Springer.
Needless to say, a sample size of only 6 months is subject to a lot of random noise, but it's the most recent data the team has generated.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 22:27:25 GMT -6
The Astros are numbers guys. I think Yuli and Reddick both have worn out there welcome and most likely are getting the blame for the Lost season. Money is also an issue. That money comming off the books for the next two years would help the Astros. Martinez DH LUGO Sp/Rp Realmuto C Grichuk Lf/Rf/DH/1b If you add those guys u can still add a RP and be very very competitive and most likely favorites for the WS Good chart to explain the on again--off again offense for the season. Very much so. But like I said I think Yuli and Reddick are on the way out. To many signs pointing that way. The want that DH period and arent gonna ride with out it. They want a SP and arent gonna ride with out. And they want J.T. But who knows there point of no return on him |
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 29, 2018 22:27:46 GMT -6
Jake would fit in get with the Mets in their no-hit offense. LOL Fisher should have been gone along time ago. Jake well his only attribute is Def. Davis is your lotto ticket you gotta stick him out there and let him run all year On Davis is agree with you there, he really hasn't had a consistent chance to play regularly, where Kemp took advantage of his opportunity and ran with it. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 22:29:09 GMT -6
It's a good thing for the Astros that all of the Top 5 Most Consistently Good Hitters from 2018 are still on the 40-man roster. While some fans might be eager to trade Kemp, I'm pretty sure other teams' GMs are taking note of the fact that he did, in fact, produce at the plate better than league average for most of the 2018 season. If the Astros retain Kemp, it won't disappoint me in the least. Gurriel and Reddick are the most worrisome players in terms of consistency who must be placed on the OD roster, only meeting the .750 OPS benchmark a third of the time last year. Viewed in this light, losing Marwin was not a very big loss at all. His presumptive replacement, Aledmys Diaz, surpassed the .750 OPS mark in 4 out of the 6 months he played with Toronto last year, which would make him about as consistent as George Springer. Needless to say, a sample size of only 6 months is subject to a lot of random noise, but it's the most recent data the team has generated. I would think they would trade Kemp to the Marlins to help that deal along. But nothing more unless it's a above avg player. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 22:29:55 GMT -6
Here is a little chart that tries to rank the 2018 Astros in terms of consistency at the plate. I only looked at months in which a hitter had at least 20 PA's. The idea is to get an objective view of how often a player was contributing at a level above the league average. This is OPS right? |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 22:30:28 GMT -6
Fisher should have been gone along time ago. Jake well his only attribute is Def. Davis is your lotto ticket you gotta stick him out there and let him run all year On Davis is agree with you there, he really hasn't had a consistent chance to play regularly, where Kemp took advantage of his opportunity and ran with it. There are alot of teams wanting a chance at J.D. Davis.he was a name talked about on Mazara. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 29, 2018 22:43:11 GMT -6
Fisher should have been gone along time ago. Jake well his only attribute is Def. Davis is your lotto ticket you gotta stick him out there and let him run all year On Davis is agree with you there, he really hasn't had a consistent chance to play regularly, where Kemp took advantage of his opportunity and ran with it. I know that we aren't supposed to read too much into spring training stats, but the way JD Davis mashed all of spring 2018 still makes me think that somewhere, he has it in him to be a big leaguer who can at least put up OPS+ of 110 over a 4-5 year stretch. That would make him a very solid bench player. I also don't discount the possibility that AJ Reed has had a 'come to Jesus' moment this off-season and will tee off on the spring training pitchers to the tune of a .900 or higher OPS. If he does that, it may tempt Hinch to find playing time for him with the Astros this season. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 29, 2018 22:53:23 GMT -6
@txheat
yes, that is OPS
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 29, 2018 23:06:24 GMT -6
Lazy Sunday here and just scrolling through the astros.com stat page.
I was interested to see what has become of the Astros' "Stars of Spring Training" over the past several years.
I arbitrarily define a "Star of Spring Training" as a player who gets 40 or more PAs and finishes ST with an OPS of 1.000 or higher. Since 2013, there have been 13 such "stars".
2018
Tucker 1.256 OPS
Davis 1.067
2017
Reed 1.008
Moran 1.050
2016
Correa 1.238
Moran 1.045
Marwin 1.043
White 1.031
2015
Gattis 1.097
Valbuena (RIP) 1.038
2014
No stars
2013
Ankiel 1.289
Jason Castro 1.218
Brandon Laird 1.004 (flopped in MLB but has thrived in Japan on the Nippon Ham Fighters and was a teammate of Shohei Ohtani)
So basically you have:
- 6 Spring Training Stars who became legit major leaguers (Moran, Correa, Marwin, Gattis, Valbuena, and Castro)
- 1 guy starting to cement himself as a legit major leaguer (White)
- 3 guys who have raked in the minors but yet to put it together in the bigs (Tucker, Davis, Reed)
- 1 washed up veteran who demolished younger players in spring (Ankiel)
- 1 guy who couldn't hack it in the USA but has been an above-average player in the Japanese league (Laird)
I suppose this means that whoever emerges as a Star of Spring Training in 2019 has at least a 50/50 chance of becoming a legit major leaguer.
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 29, 2018 23:07:03 GMT -6
On Davis is agree with you there, he really hasn't had a consistent chance to play regularly, where Kemp took advantage of his opportunity and ran with it. There are alot of teams wanting a chance at J.D. Davis.he was a name talked about on Mazara. I always looked at Davis as a raw talent, and on a few occasions mentioned that with potential reminded me a lot of Scott Rolen. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 29, 2018 23:09:31 GMT -6
On Davis is agree with you there, he really hasn't had a consistent chance to play regularly, where Kemp took advantage of his opportunity and ran with it. I know that we aren't supposed to read too much into spring training stats, but the way JD Davis mashed all of spring 2018 still makes me think that somewhere, he has it in him to be a big leaguer who can at least put up OPS+ of 110 over a 4-5 year stretch. That would make him a very solid bench player. I also don't discount the possibility that AJ Reed has had a 'come to Jesus' moment this off-season and will tee off on the spring training pitchers to the tune of a .900 or higher OPS. If he does that, it may tempt Hinch to find playing time for him with the Astros this season. Reed a clone of "Wally". |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 29, 2018 23:18:08 GMT -6
Well financially they cant add salary with out freeing it. You want Tucker to start but want Reddick. So why sign Brantley? Brantley can play the OF and DH. It was wise to sign him. Crane has said more than once that we can add salary and never mentioned dumping salaries before doing so. I am not opposed to trading Reddick,but, I don't think it is something we have to do before taking on more salary. We freed up money when we allowed Keuchel, Marwin, and Gattis to walk. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 29, 2018 23:20:47 GMT -6
On Davis is agree with you there, he really hasn't had a consistent chance to play regularly, where Kemp took advantage of his opportunity and ran with it. There are alot of teams wanting a chance at J.D. Davis.he was a name talked about on Mazara. I would rank Davis ahead of Reed,but, not my much. Neither has proven they can hit major league pitching. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 29, 2018 23:48:09 GMT -6
Fans of consistent hitting might also be glad to know that in 2018, Robinson Chirinos surpassed the .750 OPS mark in 4 out of the 6 months he played.
Had Chirinos done that as an Astro last year, he would have proven more consistent at the plate than any of McCann, Stassi, Maldonado, or Federowicz.
The addition of Diaz and Chirinos looks like a big step forward in terms of consistent hitting in 2019.
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 29, 2018 23:57:02 GMT -6
Fans of consistent hitting might also be glad to know that in 2018, Robinson Chirinos surpassed the .750 OPS mark in 4 out of the 6 months he played. Had Chirinos done that as an Astro last year, he would have proven more consistent at the plate than any of McCann, Stassi, Maldonado, or Federowicz. The addition of Diaz and Chirinos looks like a big step forward in terms of consistent hitting in 2019. Observing the Bo Sox last season was almost a mirror image of the Stros 17. If the core players have that bounce back this season, it will most likely yield the results that we will like. Now it is Boston's turn to see if they can duplicate last season. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 30, 2018 0:09:39 GMT -6
Fans of consistent hitting might also be glad to know that in 2018, Robinson Chirinos surpassed the .750 OPS mark in 4 out of the 6 months he played. Had Chirinos done that as an Astro last year, he would have proven more consistent at the plate than any of McCann, Stassi, Maldonado, or Federowicz. The addition of Diaz and Chirinos looks like a big step forward in terms of consistent hitting in 2019. Chirinos was one of the few Rangers players that I wanted to see on the Astros. I am glad we signed him. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 30, 2018 0:24:44 GMT -6
Fans of consistent hitting might also be glad to know that in 2018, Robinson Chirinos surpassed the .750 OPS mark in 4 out of the 6 months he played. Had Chirinos done that as an Astro last year, he would have proven more consistent at the plate than any of McCann, Stassi, Maldonado, or Federowicz. The addition of Diaz and Chirinos looks like a big step forward in terms of consistent hitting in 2019. Observing the Bo Sox last season was almost a mirror image of the Stros 17. If the core players have that bounce back this season, it will most likely yield the results that we will like. Now it is Boston's turn to see if they can duplicate last season. I'd agree that the BoSox just seemed unstoppable in the ALCS. Of course some shitty umpiring further added to the Astros' woes, but it went deeper than that. In the 2018 postseason, the Astros had 8 hitters who failed to meet the .750 OPS threshold (Reddick, Altuve, Gurriel, Maldonado, Gattis, Marisnick, McCann, Straw). Six players exceeded that threshold (Springer, Bregman, Kemp, Gonzalez, White, Correa). To win a championship, you generally want to have more than half your team hitting well in the postseason. For the Astros, it was the other way around. The C and 1B positions were particular black holes for the postseason Astros, with the McCann/Maldonado/Gurriel trio going a collective 9-for-58 (.155). It looks like C has been shored up and I think by making White the everyday 1B that would make for a lot more consistency at that position. Altuve's poor hitting in the postseason was (I think) an injury-driven anomaly we aren't likely to see again. With Maldonado and Gattis gone, we don't have to be concerned about those guys stinking up the 2019 postseason. And I wouldn't worry too much about Marisnick or Straw, as their chances of making the 2019 postseason seem iffy at this point. Like Nathan mentioned, it's Gurriel and Reddick who seem to pose the greatest risk of sinking the Astros offense in the 2019 postseason so the first half of the season will be a critical test to see if those guys have been able to turn it around. |
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Post by marshall on Dec 30, 2018 1:59:05 GMT -6
they don't know what the hell they are doing Kind of like us about 10 years ago. Please don't remind me of the Dark Ages. (Ed Wade Years) |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 2:24:39 GMT -6
Kind of like us about 10 years ago. Please don't remind me of the Dark Ages. (Ed Wade Years) Dang Marshakl.... Sounds like the perfect time for a spirited off season topic of a Wade vs. Purpura debate.  |
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Post by marshall on Dec 30, 2018 2:37:06 GMT -6
Please don't remind me of the Dark Ages. (Ed Wade Years) Dang Marshakl.... Sounds like the perfect time for a spirited off season topic of a Wade vs. Purpura debate. Yes. Tweedle dee vs Tweedle DUMB. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 30, 2018 8:51:45 GMT -6
Wade and Purpura both sucked.
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Post by paastrosfan on Dec 30, 2018 8:56:20 GMT -6
Observing the Bo Sox last season was almost a mirror image of the Stros 17. If the core players have that bounce back this season, it will most likely yield the results that we will like. Now it is Boston's turn to see if they can duplicate last season. I'd agree that the BoSox just seemed unstoppable in the ALCS. Of course some shitty umpiring further added to the Astros' woes, but it went deeper than that. In the 2018 postseason, the Astros had 8 hitters who failed to meet the .750 OPS threshold (Reddick, Altuve, Gurriel, Maldonado, Gattis, Marisnick, McCann, Straw). Six players exceeded that threshold (Springer, Bregman, Kemp, Gonzalez, White, Correa). To win a championship, you generally want to have more than half your team hitting well in the postseason. For the Astros, it was the other way around. The C and 1B positions were particular black holes for the postseason Astros, with the McCann/Maldonado/Gurriel trio going a collective 9-for-58 (.155). It looks like C has been shored up and I think by making White the everyday 1B that would make for a lot more consistency at that position. Altuve's poor hitting in the postseason was (I think) an injury-driven anomaly we aren't likely to see again. With Maldonado and Gattis gone, we don't have to be concerned about those guys stinking up the 2019 postseason. And I wouldn't worry too much about Marisnick or Straw, as their chances of making the 2019 postseason seem iffy at this point. Like Nathan mentioned, it's Gurriel and Reddick who seem to pose the greatest risk of sinking the Astros offense in the 2019 postseason so the first half of the season will be a critical test to see if those guys have been able to turn it around. The Bo Sox series was a nightmare to say the least. Speaking of Josh, after the first win against the Sox, my daughter was showing me a his twitter quote "7 more". |
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Post by Saint on Dec 30, 2018 10:53:24 GMT -6
Fans of consistent hitting might also be glad to know that in 2018, Robinson Chirinos surpassed the .750 OPS mark in 4 out of the 6 months he played. Had Chirinos done that as an Astro last year, he would have proven more consistent at the plate than any of McCann, Stassi, Maldonado, or Federowicz. The addition of Diaz and Chirinos looks like a big step forward in terms of consistent hitting in 2019. Offensively we're already better than last year and we should see improvement from Gurriel, Correa, and some others. People clamoring for a DH or an all-star catcher are off base, imo. Pitching should be the priority right now. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 30, 2018 10:59:10 GMT -6
Wade and Purpura we're both hamstrung by Drayton to me. Hard to know what either of them could have truly done.
As great as Luhnow has been, Crane has been a breath of fresh air as well. He set a clear vision as soon as he arrived. Ripped the band-aid off and stuck to the game plan despite the financial risk. Now he stays out of the way and let's the experts do their jobs.
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Post by Saint on Dec 30, 2018 11:00:01 GMT -6
Decent article on mlbtraderumors about the Astros remaining issues. No mention of needing a DH. 😋
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 30, 2018 11:15:47 GMT -6
Decent article on mlbtraderumors about the Astros remaining issues. No mention of needing a DH. 😋 I don't give a damn what's in the article.........We still need a DH. If we didn't think so, why were we negotiating with Cruz and still being mentioned in talks for EE? We should have signed Cruz.......Signing Brantley should improve the offense, but, losing Marwin may or may not hurt us. We don't know about Correa's back "issues" which means there is no way of knowing how much we get from him. We need another power hitter no matter what is written in an article. |
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