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Post by olpapa on Dec 29, 2018 17:18:35 GMT -6
From MLBTR:
“Astros "Open" To Trading Josh Reddick
By Connor Byrne | December 15, 2018 at 8:22pm CDT
The Astros are mulling adding two hitters and are “open” to trading outfielder Josh Reddick, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports (subscription required). However, the likelihood is that the Astros will only acquire one hitter, per Rosenthal, who adds that they haven’t had much luck trying to move Reddick this offseason. Not only is the 33-year-old Reddick coming off an unspectacular season in which he hit .242/.318/.400 (99 wRC+) with 1.1 fWAR in 487 plate appearances, but he’s due $26MM through 2020.”
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 29, 2018 17:20:24 GMT -6
When did this fanbase turn against Josh Reddick? Every other post lately is calling for him to be traded. People are inferring that Reddick is a goner because they really want Tucker to be a starter, and Brantley and Springer are the other OF’s. Reddick doesn’t hold enough value as a backup OF or DH. A trade seems to make sense. P.S. I like Reddick a lot but what can you do? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 29, 2018 17:21:58 GMT -6
From MLBTR: “Astros "Open" To Trading Josh Reddick By Connor Byrne | December 15, 2018 at 8:22pm CDT The Astros are mulling adding two hitters and are “open” to trading outfielder Josh Reddick, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports (subscription required). However, the likelihood is that the Astros will only acquire one hitter, per Rosenthal, who adds that they haven’t had much luck trying to move Reddick this offseason. Not only is the 33-year-old Reddick coming off an unspectacular season in which he hit .242/.318/.400 (99 wRC+) with 1.1 fWAR in 487 plate appearances, but he’s due $26MM through 2020.” If this were Reddick’s last season under contract, I could see him being traded. As it stands, I don’t see a team willing to commit to paying him for two seasons. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Dec 29, 2018 17:36:59 GMT -6
Anyone interested in Randal Grichuk and a prospect for Yuli? No. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 18:03:14 GMT -6
When did this fanbase turn against Josh Reddick? Every other post lately is calling for him to be traded. nathan is about the only one who keeps saying we are trying to deal Reddick. I haven't seen that report confirmed anywhere. Must have gotten it from one of his "reliable sources". U always attack but the news is out there. |
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Post by m240 on Dec 29, 2018 18:14:07 GMT -6
I'm seeing multiple cases of us overvaluing our spare parts in recent posts... Spare parts bring value if you're prepared to eat salary. Lugo is crazy cheap. Lugo will take a couple decent prospects or a controllable decent talent MLB-ready player... Edit: Same with Martinez. “@marccarig Some added context here. Told Seth Lugo’s name got floated out as part of wider-ranging trade talks between the Astros and Mets. Sounds like the sides kicked around a bunch of different ideas of late. Thus far, none have gained traction. Quote Tweet Marc Carig @marccarig Hearing that the Astros and Mets have recently been engaged in trade talks. Houston has shown interest in Seth Lugo and New York has been doing some background work on Astros minor leaguers. Unclear if talk has gained traction.” I’ve got a feeling that these talks will result in a trade. The Mets new GM has already shown that he is not afraid to deal. A while back it was reported that the Mets were wanting ML ready players in trade talks. Then they weakened their already not-so-strong farm system when they traded for Diaz and Cano. I could see these talks expanding into a deal sending multiple players...ML ready and prospects.., heading both ways. Frazier is a FA next offseason and the Mets best 3B prospect is a couple years away. Davis might interest them. Marisnick should. Straw probably would. They could use bench help. Kemp might interest them. They are loaded at SP, but they could use middle inning relievers. Devenski, Deetz, Armenteros, McCurry all should interest them. they are looking for a go getum center fielder and someone to develop for later. that much is for sure |
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Post by Saint on Dec 29, 2018 18:14:55 GMT -6
When did this fanbase turn against Josh Reddick? Every other post lately is calling for him to be traded. nathan is about the only one who keeps saying we are trying to deal Reddick. I haven't seen that report confirmed anywhere. Must have gotten it from one of his "reliable sources". No I've seen stuff that they're interested in trading him to free up cash. I just don't view that as a big deal. He's been worth his contract so far. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 18:15:10 GMT -6
“@marccarig Some added context here. Told Seth Lugo’s name got floated out as part of wider-ranging trade talks between the Astros and Mets. Sounds like the sides kicked around a bunch of different ideas of late. Thus far, none have gained traction. Quote Tweet Marc Carig @marccarig Hearing that the Astros and Mets have recently been engaged in trade talks. Houston has shown interest in Seth Lugo and New York has been doing some background work on Astros minor leaguers. Unclear if talk has gained traction.” I’ve got a feeling that these talks will result in a trade. The Mets new GM has already shown that he is not afraid to deal. A while back it was reported that the Mets were wanting ML ready players in trade talks. Then they weakened their already not-so-strong farm system when they traded for Diaz and Cano. I could see these talks expanding into a deal sending multiple players...ML ready and prospects.., heading both ways. Frazier is a FA next offseason and the Mets best 3B prospect is a couple years away. Davis might interest them. Marisnick should. Straw probably would. They could use bench help. Kemp might interest them. They are loaded at SP, but they could use middle inning relievers. Devenski, Deetz, Armenteros, McCurry all should interest them. they are looking for a go getum center fielder and someone to develop for later. that much is for sure Sadly which is why Straw, J.D Davis and Ronnie Dawson make loads of since. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 29, 2018 18:16:23 GMT -6
Reported that we're interested in Ray from AZ. Luhnow seems busy.
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Post by m240 on Dec 29, 2018 18:16:25 GMT -6
When did this fanbase turn against Josh Reddick? Every other post lately is calling for him to be traded. He is the weakest [position link right now and he is manning the spot that Tucker will eventually man. That is of course Tucker proves to be little Ted. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 29, 2018 18:41:40 GMT -6
nathan is about the only one who keeps saying we are trying to deal Reddick. I haven't seen that report confirmed anywhere. Must have gotten it from one of his "reliable sources". No I've seen stuff that they're interested in trading him to free up cash. I just don't view that as a big deal. He's been worth his contract so far. And is an actually likeable player, whom the fans love. The "woooo" in every park we visited was great. And valuable, in my mind, as it built the fanbase outside of the dirty confines of Houston. |
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Post by olpapa on Dec 29, 2018 18:43:04 GMT -6
Reported that we're interested in Ray from AZ. Luhnow seems busy. It’s about time that lazy dumbass got off his lazy dumb ass!!! |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 29, 2018 18:47:25 GMT -6
nathan is about the only one who keeps saying we are trying to deal Reddick. I haven't seen that report confirmed anywhere. Must have gotten it from one of his "reliable sources". U always attack but the news is out there. Trouble is you never provide a link to "the news" that is a reliable source. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 29, 2018 18:48:18 GMT -6
they are looking for a go getum center fielder and someone to develop for later. that much is for sure Sadly which is why Straw, J.D Davis and Ronnie Dawson make loads of since. Straw is not likely to be traded. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 29, 2018 18:48:41 GMT -6
Anyone interested in Randal Grichuk and a prospect for Yuli? Grichuk got discussed somewhat on this board last season... I think around July. I supported adding him then. He'd be with the Astros for two seasons if they got him now and he is currently 27, so these should be his prime years of production. He ought to be able to play any OF position. Being from Rosenberg wouldn't hurt with the fans. Overall he would add more value than Yuli; my only concern would be that with Brantley already on board, Tucker might get blocked. If Grichuk became an Astro, I imagine Reddick and Marisnick would both need to be moved. Or, maybe Luhnow sees a weakness in Tucker and he does the unthinkable and sends Tucker off as part of a trade for some blockbuster addition like Realmuto/Kluber/Thor. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 29, 2018 18:51:40 GMT -6
Reported that we're interested in Ray from AZ. Luhnow seems busy. It’s about time that lazy dumbass got off his lazy dumb ass!!! If he can get Ray, Luhnow needs to get off his lazy ass and get it done as long as Tucker is not involved...........Offer them a package including Stassi and Kemp. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 29, 2018 18:52:01 GMT -6
Reported that we're interested in Ray from AZ. Luhnow seems busy. That would be a great get, but any clues to what prospects DBs will be wanting? |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 29, 2018 19:05:32 GMT -6
Lugo - 4 years of control, for
Marisnick - 2019 CF
Dawson late 2020/2021 OF
Armenteros - possible 5th starter or long relief late this year or in 2020
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Post by abregmanfan on Dec 29, 2018 19:49:51 GMT -6
Lugo - 4 years of control, for Marisnick - 2019 CF Dawson late 2020/2021 OF Armenteros - possible 5th starter or long relief late this year or in 2020 I think it will take more than that. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 29, 2018 19:54:59 GMT -6
No I've seen stuff that they're interested in trading him to free up cash. I just don't view that as a big deal. He's been worth his contract so far. And is an actually likeable player, whom the fans love. The "woooo" in every park we visited was great. And valuable, in my mind, as it built the fanbase outside of the dirty confines of Houston. Agreed. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 29, 2018 20:23:34 GMT -6
And is an actually likeable player, whom the fans love. The "woooo" in every park we visited was great. And valuable, in my mind, as it built the fanbase outside of the dirty confines of Houston. Agreed. If Reddick is traded, it will be because we want to unload his salary. I'd try to deal Kemp AND Fisher instead. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Dec 29, 2018 20:31:19 GMT -6
To go on record I want to keep Tucker, Whitley and BEER.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 20:32:52 GMT -6
Well financially they cant add salary with out freeing it. You want Tucker to start but want Reddick. So why sign Brantley?
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Post by Saint on Dec 29, 2018 20:50:42 GMT -6
Well financially they cant add salary with out freeing it. You want Tucker to start but want Reddick. So why sign Brantley? You need four solid-good outfielders with injuries, match-ups, days off, etc. And Brantley should DH 20-40 games to try and keep him healthy. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 21:04:06 GMT -6
I question a lot of what the White Sox are doing. they don't know what the hell they are doing Kind of like us about 10 years ago. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 29, 2018 21:19:32 GMT -6
We seem to give a lot of importance to "consistency" when thinking about who should fill out the active roster. For the OF, I would consider Springer and Brantley as locks for the everyday lineup. And then as Saint says, the team needs two other OFers from among the mix of Reddick, Marisnick, Kemp, Tucker, Straw, and anyone who might come over in trade.
I think the team ought to commit to starting Tucker for the first 3 months of the season "come hell or high water" because he has the potential to be a star, and has nothing left to prove in AAA. That leaves the question of who is the 4th OFer.
I looked up last year's monthly splits on five OFers I'd consider prime candidates for the job: Reddick, Kemp, Marisnick, Grichuk, and Adam Jones. Here are the numbers:
Reddick .718 OPS in 2018
April - .790
May - .647
June - .721
July - .739
August - .627
September - .771
Grichuk .803 OPS in 2018
April - .435
May – didn't play
June - .988
July - .737
August - .907
September - .862
Marisnick .674 OPS in 2018
April - .458
May – .463
June - .948
July - .400 (only 10 PAs)
August – 1.400 (only 25 Pas)
September - .598
Kemp .743 OPS in 2018
April – didn't play in ML
May – .793
June - .783
July - .834
August - .748
September - .562
Jones .732 OPS in 2018
April - .658
May - .875
June - .720
July - .742
August - .752
September - .633
Generally speaking, I would consider an OPS of .750 or higher to be worthy of a championship-caliber team for an OFer. Looking at last year's monthly splits, how many months did each player meet that benchmark?
Grichuk and Kemp met it in 3 months of the season, so I'd call them the 'most consistent', and with preference for Grichuk due to higher overall OPS.
Reddick and Jones met it in 2 months of the season; not quite cutting it in my opinion. Marisnick technically met it in 2 months of the season, but one of those months he was restricted to only 25 PAs, so I'd consider him the least offensively consistent of the candidates.
Straw and Fisher are wildcards. Both are talented and, who knows, if they go gangbusters in spring training, they might force their way onto the OD roster as the 4th OFer.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 21:28:58 GMT -6
Well financially they cant add salary with out freeing it. You want Tucker to start but want Reddick. So why sign Brantley? You need four solid-good outfielders with injuries, match-ups, days off, etc. And Brantley should DH 20-40 games to try and keep him healthy. Your also aggressively looking for a DH SP and still on on Realmuto. But we have the money! Pfft |
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Post by Saint on Dec 29, 2018 22:09:31 GMT -6
You need four solid-good outfielders with injuries, match-ups, days off, etc. And Brantley should DH 20-40 games to try and keep him healthy. Your also aggressively looking for a DH SP and still on on Realmuto. But we have the money! Pfft That's why I think a pure DH or another C is not a good use of resources. Get one, if necessary, but our primary focus should be a pitcher that helps right NOW but that we also have control over for at least another year or two. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Dec 29, 2018 22:12:51 GMT -6
Here is a little chart that tries to rank the 2018 Astros in terms of consistency at the plate. I only looked at months in which a hitter had at least 20 PA's. The idea is to get an objective view of how often a player was contributing at a level above the league average.  |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 29, 2018 22:13:35 GMT -6
Your also aggressively looking for a DH SP and still on on Realmuto. But we have the money! Pfft That's why I think a pure DH or another C is not a good use of resources. Get one, if necessary, but our primary focus should be a pitcher that helps right NOW but that we also have control over for at least another year or two. So why not push for Realmuto. And let Robinson Brantley White DH? I honestly think the Astros dont see value in on Reddick south taste on Reddick last year. Wanna move on. They want a .AVG. HR hitting DH. Someone more consistantly hitting. JOSE MARTINEZ fits the bill EE does aswell. Draw backs on both. Money on EE and Cards hate us so Price is higher. So figuratively speaking Lugo, Martinez and Realmuto make since for the Astros. But who says they would be done? Who says if all these dominos fall they wont do more?? |
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