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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 10, 2019 14:48:25 GMT -6
I think Realmuto is much better then people think with the bat. I think he has been weighed down by the Marlins.
But that is me.
I dont trust prospects. Period no one can change my mind on that.
But if you wanna keep Tucker because he is a stud. Then he plays every single day from here on out till your mind changes.
Same with Whitley when he is up he plays every fifth day or outta the pen every other day.
There is no point playing dumb on that front you get Realmuto you can swap him and Chrinos to play DH along with your other options
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Post by Saint on Jan 10, 2019 14:54:45 GMT -6
I think Realmuto is much better then people think with the bat. I think he has been weighed down by the Marlins. But that is me. I dont trust prospects. Period no one can change my mind on that. But if you wanna keep Tucker because he is a stud. Then he plays every single day from here on out till your mind changes. Same with Whitley when he is up he plays every fifth day or outta the pen every other day. There is no point playing dumb on that front you get Realmuto you can swap him and Chrinos to play DH along with your other options If we didn't give our prospects a chance, we wouldn't have the team we have now. No Altuve, Correa, Springer, Bregman... |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 10, 2019 14:58:07 GMT -6
He is a GIDP machine too. Yuli probably has one of the hardest hit balls coming off his bat in MLB, and he hits a lot of atom balls. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 10, 2019 15:01:31 GMT -6
Grandal for one year with the Brewers supposedly....weird. A little over the qualifying offer, he will probably regret turning down the Mets four year offer. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 10, 2019 15:07:09 GMT -6
I think Realmuto is much better then people think with the bat. I think he has been weighed down by the Marlins. But that is me. I dont trust prospects. Period no one can change my mind on that. But if you wanna keep Tucker because he is a stud. Then he plays every single day from here on out till your mind changes. Same with Whitley when he is up he plays every fifth day or outta the pen every other day. There is no point playing dumb on that front you get Realmuto you can swap him and Chrinos to play DH along with your other options Who knows what the final verdict is going to be on Tucker and what kind of player he will end up. But it didn't take long in the show to find holes in his swing in his short debut. |
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Post by marshall on Jan 10, 2019 15:13:20 GMT -6
I think Realmuto is much better then people think with the bat. I think he has been weighed down by the Marlins. But that is me. I dont trust prospects. Period no one can change my mind on that. But if you wanna keep Tucker because he is a stud. Then he plays every single day from here on out till your mind changes. Same with Whitley when he is up he plays every fifth day or outta the pen every other day. There is no point playing dumb on that front you get Realmuto you can swap him and Chrinos to play DH along with your other options All players come with a risk. FAs and trade players may not repeat past performance while prospects may not perform as anticipated. All I gather from the latest reports is that six teams have not agreed to pay well above value for Realmuto. It's up to Jeter to decide if he wants to hold onto a rapidly declining asset in hope someone will make a stupid trade.
I'd like to see a fair trade. But anything higher than Alvarex and Stassi is too much. Valdez might be a replacement for Alvarez, but not an addition.
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 10, 2019 15:18:50 GMT -6
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Jan 10, 2019 15:51:56 GMT -6
Your friend Voodoo and his "trayde thees 15 pleyers and let tkcur pley awl 3OF pisitions at teh sayme tyme" You need a Cape so you can be super mad? That was pretty funny. Heh. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 10, 2019 16:04:12 GMT -6
I think Realmuto is much better then people think with the bat. I think he has been weighed down by the Marlins. But that is me. I dont trust prospects. Period no one can change my mind on that. But if you wanna keep Tucker because he is a stud. Then he plays every single day from here on out till your mind changes. Same with Whitley when he is up he plays every fifth day or outta the pen every other day. There is no point playing dumb on that front you get Realmuto you can swap him and Chrinos to play DH along with your other options not very bright to say you don't trust prospects....Every big name player such as Trout, Altuve, etc. were once prospects. |
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Post by marshall on Jan 10, 2019 16:16:21 GMT -6
You need a Cape so you can be super mad? That was pretty funny.
How's this work for ya'h?
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 10, 2019 16:19:09 GMT -6
It is his own dang fault. He should have taken the offer the Met's gave him. |
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Post by Saint on Jan 10, 2019 16:51:07 GMT -6
Lowrie about to sign with the Mets.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 10, 2019 17:24:12 GMT -6
Lowrie about to sign with the Mets. And Luhnow keeps twiddling his thumbs.  |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 10, 2019 17:54:45 GMT -6
Mets are a team to watch. I think. A much improved team.
Also note I think the Mystery team on Machado is the Brewers
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 10, 2019 18:07:54 GMT -6
Lowrie about to sign with the Mets. And Luhnow keeps twiddling his thumbs. all there is left to do at this point is maybe get a SP, a good bullpen arm and backup catcher.... |
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Post by Saint on Jan 10, 2019 19:16:05 GMT -6
Lowrie about to sign with the Mets. And Luhnow keeps twiddling his thumbs. Did you want Lowrie? |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 10, 2019 19:52:55 GMT -6
And Luhnow keeps twiddling his thumbs. Did you want Lowrie? No, I wanted Cruz, i also want some pitching help |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 10, 2019 20:10:41 GMT -6
I wonder what the Giants would want for Bumgarner. Facing a rotation of Verlander, Cole and Bumgarner would be scary.
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Post by olpapa on Jan 10, 2019 20:41:25 GMT -6
i wish somebody would sign Machado and Harper so MLB network would have to talk about something else. These two pricks aren't the only players out there. I wish some team besides the Astros would trade for Realmuto....I am tired of Astros being named as a possible suitor. It makes zero sense given the Realmuto is only controllable for 2 years, the Astros rotation could go through a major overhaul next year and the Astros have a really good catching prospect in the minors, Stubbs. Now that Grandal has signed I think a deal for Realmuto will be done in the next week or so. No way do I see Luhnow trading Whitley or Tucker for him. He might send Alvarez to the Marlins in a deal for Realmuto. Alvarez is the #42 ranked prospect by MLB.com and #9 rated OF prospect. San Diego clearly has the prospects to beat a deal highlighted by Alvarez. Their top 5 prospects are all ranked higher than Alvarez. Why would they trade for Realmuto though? They have Francisco Mejia, the #2 ranked catcher prospect, who is ML ready now. The Dodgers have the prospects to get a deal done, but they have reportedly refused to include either Verdugo or Ruiz, their #1 and #2 prospects, in a deal for Realmuto. Their #3 prospect is ranked #71 by MLB.com...well below Alvarez. It has been rumored that the Marlins would like to get a catcher with some ML experience as a part of the return for Realmuto. If Luhnow has offered Alvarez, another prospect in our top 15 and Stassi, he may very well get Realmuto, if the Dodgers don’t change their mind and decide to send Verdugo or Ruiz to the Marlins in a trade for JTR. |
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Post by olpapa on Jan 10, 2019 20:45:38 GMT -6
I wonder what the Giants would want for Bumgarner. Facing a rotation of Verlander, Cole and Bumgarner would be scary. If we got the pre-2017 version of Madbum, that would be a stout playoff rotation for sure. |
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Post by m240 on Jan 10, 2019 21:32:20 GMT -6
Short of the Astros signing or trading for a starter and a reliever between now and spring training I can see them using a tandem system of starters and rotating guys up from the minors as the guys get some innings and start to prove up whether their stuff plays in the bigs this year. We know James and Valdez throw a lot of pitches per inning and will be lucky to go past 5 on the best days, so a system that allows us to see as many of these young guys as possible would make infinite sense. Going with a Tandem Starter concept, which of these 4 would you pair up? Cionel Perez Framber Valdez Forrest Whitley Josh James
ps We would still have Rogelio in the wings.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 10, 2019 22:16:25 GMT -6
Going with a Tandem Starter concept, which of these 4 would you pair up? Cionel Perez Framber Valdez Forrest Whitley Josh James
ps We would still have Rogelio in the wings.
James and Perez and Whitley and Valdez. We also have Martin as well. I think the Astros are really High on Martin James and Whitley. I think that's there trio. They also seem I trigued by Valdez and Perez as LHers |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 10, 2019 22:57:00 GMT -6
I wish some team besides the Astros would trade for Realmuto....I am tired of Astros being named as a possible suitor. It makes zero sense given the Realmuto is only controllable for 2 years, the Astros rotation could go through a major overhaul next year and the Astros have a really good catching prospect in the minors, Stubbs. Now that Grandal has signed I think a deal for Realmuto will be done in the next week or so. No way do I see Luhnow trading Whitley or Tucker for him. He might send Alvarez to the Marlins in a deal for Realmuto. Alvarez is the #42 ranked prospect by MLB.com and #9 rated OF prospect. San Diego clearly has the prospects to beat a deal highlighted by Alvarez. Their top 5 prospects are all ranked higher than Alvarez. Why would they trade for Realmuto though? They have Francisco Mejia, the #2 ranked catcher prospect, who is ML ready now. The Dodgers have the prospects to get a deal done, but they have reportedly refused to include either Verdugo or Ruiz, their #1 and #2 prospects, in a deal for Realmuto. Their #3 prospect is ranked #71 by MLB.com...well below Alvarez. It has been rumored that the Marlins would like to get a catcher with some ML experience as a part of the return for Realmuto. If Luhnow has offered Alvarez, another prospect in our top 15 and Stassi, he may very well get Realmuto, if the Dodgers don’t change their mind and decide to send Verdugo or Ruiz to the Marlins in a trade for JTR. glad Grandal is signed...I didn't want him. I just can't get over the thought that Luhnow is infatuated wirh Realmuto. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 10, 2019 22:58:54 GMT -6
James and Perez and Whitley and Valdez. We also have Martin as well. I think the Astros are really High on Martin James and Whitley. I think that's there trio. They also seem I trigued by Valdez and Perez as LHers and you have a crush on Realmuto. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 10, 2019 23:03:43 GMT -6
Gerrit Cole (5.111) – $13.1MM/$6.75MM
Roberto Osuna (3.097) – $6.5MM/$5.3MM
Collin McHugh (5.085) – $5.4MM/$5.0MM
Carlos Correa (3.119) – $5.1MM/$1.MM
Lance McCullers (3.140) – $4.6MM/$2.45MM
Will Harris (5.102) – $3.6MM/$2.8MM
Ryan Pressly (5.039) – $3.1MM/$1.6MM
Brad Peacock (4.165) – $2.9MM/$2.44MM Jake Marisnick (4.132) – $2.4MM/$1.9MM
Chris Devenski (3.000) – $1.4MM/$599K
Those are the projections on the Arb for those guys.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 10, 2019 23:06:22 GMT -6
I think the Astros are really High on Martin James and Whitley. I think that's there trio. They also seem I trigued by Valdez and Perez as LHers and you have a crush on Realmuto. Not a crush. I just think he is better than most give him credit for. If your on a bad team and putting up numbers like that what do you think he would be like on a good team? Same with Nick Castellanos. It's hard to judge pitchers and what there worth but I can say this. Marcus Stroman and Aaron Sanchez as a double bagger would be a nice add. Seth Lugo would be a dream add. Love his versatility Pen or Starter MICHEAL FULMER at this point is the hardest of the above |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 11, 2019 0:17:26 GMT -6
Gerrit Cole (5.111) – $13.1MM/$6.75MM Roberto Osuna (3.097) – $6.5MM/$5.3MM Collin McHugh (5.085) – $5.4MM/$5.0MM Carlos Correa (3.119) – $5.1MM/$1.MM Lance McCullers (3.140) – $4.6MM/$2.45MM Will Harris (5.102) – $3.6MM/$2.8MM Ryan Pressly (5.039) – $3.1MM/$1.6MM Brad Peacock (4.165) – $2.9MM/$2.44MM Jake Marisnick (4.132) – $2.4MM/$1.9MM Chris Devenski (3.000) – $1.4MM/$599K Those are the projections on the Arb for those guys. get rid of useless crap like Harris and Devenski and save that money to spend on guys who can help. |
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Post by marshall on Jan 11, 2019 3:17:30 GMT -6
Now that Grandal has signed I think a deal for Realmuto will be done in the next week or so. No way do I see Luhnow trading Whitley or Tucker for him. He might send Alvarez to the Marlins in a deal for Realmuto. Alvarez is the #42 ranked prospect by MLB.com and #9 rated OF prospect. San Diego clearly has the prospects to beat a deal highlighted by Alvarez. Their top 5 prospects are all ranked higher than Alvarez. Why would they trade for Realmuto though? They have Francisco Mejia, the #2 ranked catcher prospect, who is ML ready now. The Dodgers have the prospects to get a deal done, but they have reportedly refused to include either Verdugo or Ruiz, their #1 and #2 prospects, in a deal for Realmuto. Their #3 prospect is ranked #71 by MLB.com...well below Alvarez. It has been rumored that the Marlins would like to get a catcher with some ML experience as a part of the return for Realmuto. If Luhnow has offered Alvarez, another prospect in our top 15 and Stassi, he may very well get Realmuto, if the Dodgers don’t change their mind and decide to send Verdugo or Ruiz to the Marlins in a trade for JTR. glad Grandal is signed...I didn't want him. I just can't get over the thought that Luhnow is infatuated wirh Realmuto. There ren't a lot of position players we can get that are better than the prospects we already have in the pipeline. Most are just more expensive versions of what we already have. But a great hitting catcher with passable receiving skills who can work along side Stubbs and grooms him to take over should he choose to leave after 2020 is one.
Luhnow isn't GAGA over him, but does recognize that he should be able to help as long as the cost is reasonable. So far he's held out because Jeter believes he has a lottery ticket.
In a way, I don't blame him. He worked around a guy with more dollars than sense and he thinks the other GMs are like George and willing to spend stupid money or make one sided trades. What surprises me is the number of fans who think that's the kind of GM who is great! But things started changing with the Luxury Tax when being stupid became more expensive.
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Post by marshall on Jan 11, 2019 3:34:08 GMT -6
It is his own dang fault. He should have taken the offer the Met's gave him. Not necessarily. By signing one year contracts, you generally get more each year as long as you produce and stay relatively healthy. Grandal will be making $5.5M more this season than the average the Mets offered. But he has to stay healthy and productive long enough to recover the guaranteed money by the Mets. If he continues to make the same premium, that would be after the third year and anything he makes in the fourth is a bonus. |
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Post by m240 on Jan 11, 2019 7:00:28 GMT -6
James and Perez and Whitley and Valdez. We also have Martin as well. I think the Astros are really High on Martin James and Whitley. I think that's there trio. They also seem I trigued by Valdez and Perez as LHers Right now it seems like Valdez has the edge as far as consideration for a starter role. There is something in Perez's body stature, or structure that leads them to believe that he will break down over the long haul as a starter. I agree with your assessment of the Astros top three though in reverse order of your listing. |
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