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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jan 13, 2019 10:54:39 GMT -6
Theres no way we r getting Kluber. Padres will have every offer bested Gotta focus on stroman or fulmer or lugo sounds good to me. Either of those three will be much cheaper than Kluber. I still say the best thing to do is go get Fulmer and Castellanos.Haven't seen you give an update on Realmuto in a couple of days. Nick's an easy get. Michael ... not-so-much. What would YOU suggest is a fair trade for those two?
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 13, 2019 11:14:30 GMT -6
sounds good to me. Either of those three will be much cheaper than Kluber. I still say the best thing to do is go get Fulmer and Castellanos.Haven't seen you give an update on Realmuto in a couple of days. Nick's an easy get. Michael ... not-so-much. What would YOU suggest is a fair trade for those two? The fact that Fulmer is coming off a very sub-par year would have to be considered so I'd have to think about that one.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 13, 2019 11:24:32 GMT -6
They got further then the crappy Texans that's all the mattered to me So you did not want them to win the SB, some fan you are.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 13, 2019 12:14:35 GMT -6
They got further then the crappy Texans that's all the mattered to me So you did not want them to win the SB, some fan you are. I don't know which team has the most incompetent head coach.....the Texans or the Cowboys.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 13, 2019 12:23:27 GMT -6
So you did not want them to win the SB, some fan you are. I don't know which team has the most incompetent head coach.....the Texans or the Cowboys. BO'B gets my blood a boiling, because he plays not to lose, as opposed to playing to win ...
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 13, 2019 12:31:16 GMT -6
I don't know which team has the most incompetent head coach.....the Texans or the Cowboys. BO'B gets my blood a boiling, because he plays not to lose, as opposed to playing to win ... Sounds familiar. Reminds me of a coach who’d never watch his kicker attempt a field goal.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 13, 2019 12:45:07 GMT -6
I don't know which team has the most incompetent head coach.....the Texans or the Cowboys. BO'B gets my blood a boiling, because he plays not to lose, as opposed to playing to win ... exactly.....that is why he loses big games. The Texans peaked too early and then went downhill.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 13, 2019 12:56:40 GMT -6
To me Nick Castellanos and Micheal Fulmer are the best bet. I still think Realmuto is comming to the Astros. Just trying to buy the time.
Idk anymore Jeter is a bad owner slash what ever he is.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 13, 2019 13:06:29 GMT -6
Good to see the Phillies are the favorite to sign Harper. They will finally get their superstar.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 13, 2019 14:05:24 GMT -6
Good to see the Phillies are the favorite to sign Harper. They will finally get their superstar. I will be glad when somebody signs him and Machado....I'm sick of the media slobbering over both of them. I think the Phillies can get Harper. Machado would crawl to the Yankees to play there, they know it, and won't pay him what he wants.
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Post by olpapa on Jan 13, 2019 14:48:33 GMT -6
Good to see the Phillies are the favorite to sign Harper. They will finally get their superstar. I will be glad when somebody signs him and Machado....I'm sick of the media slobbering over both of them. I think the Phillies can get Harper. Machado would crawl to the Yankees to play there, they know it, and won't pay him what he wants. Machado would fit right in with the Yankees. They could give him Aroids old locker.
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jan 13, 2019 15:01:02 GMT -6
The fact that Fulmer is coming off a very sub-par year would have to be considered so I'd have to think about that one. When you commence yer cipherin' and gazintas, remember the fact that the Tigers aren't highly motivated to deal Fulmer right now. He'll make either $2.8 million or $3.4 million (or somewhere between if they reach an agreement to avoid arbitration) in 2019. That's a cheap keep. Of course if a team were to make an offer based on his four years of team control and performance closer to his ceiling than his most recent season on the books, a deal might actually occur before the season begins. Else the Tigers are far more likely to wait until the summer or even next winter.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 13, 2019 15:05:59 GMT -6
To me Nick Castellanos and Micheal Fulmer are the best bet. I still think Realmuto is comming to the Astros. Just trying to buy the time. Idk anymore Jeter is a bad owner slash what ever he is. I so hope you are wrong on Realmuto....Castellanos is coming if Astros make a trade involving an OF...I think the Tigers will ask a lot for Fulmer given the years of control they still have on him...I like Lugo, he is a perfect match for the Astros.
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 13, 2019 15:25:41 GMT -6
To me Nick Castellanos and Micheal Fulmer are the best bet. I still think Realmuto is comming to the Astros. Just trying to buy the time. Idk anymore Jeter is a bad owner slash what ever he is. I so hope you are wrong on Realmuto....Castellanos is coming if Astros make a trade involving an OF...I think the Tigers will ask a lot for Fulmer given the years of control they still have on him...I like Lugo, he is a perfect match for the Astros. Hopefully, Luhnow is negotiating for Lugo,too. He and Castellanos could solve two problems for us. I just can't get rid of the feeling that he is going to get Realmuto some way or another.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 13, 2019 16:37:51 GMT -6
I so hope you are wrong on Realmuto....Castellanos is coming if Astros make a trade involving an OF...I think the Tigers will ask a lot for Fulmer given the years of control they still have on him...I like Lugo, he is a perfect match for the Astros. Hopefully, Luhnow is negotiating for Lugo,too. He and Castellanos could solve two problems for us. I just can't get rid of the feeling that he is going to get Realmuto some way or another. I would love to land Lugo. Great fit and probably wouldn't cost way too much.
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 13, 2019 16:55:22 GMT -6
Hopefully, Luhnow is negotiating for Lugo,too. He and Castellanos could solve two problems for us. I just can't get rid of the feeling that he is going to get Realmuto some way or another. I would love to land Lugo. Great fit and probably wouldn't cost way too much. I am thinking the same, he would be a great get for the Astros....I think Strom could take Lugo's game to the next level, and many here will become fans of him....he is under team control for 4 years, so a long time for all of us to root for him... Crazy as it sounds, I rather have Lugo than Fulmer...yes, the anticipated lower asking price for Lugo than Fulmer is apart of my reasoning, but I just feel Lugo + Strom is the perfect match...
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 13, 2019 16:59:45 GMT -6
I so hope you are wrong on Realmuto....Castellanos is coming if Astros make a trade involving an OF...I think the Tigers will ask a lot for Fulmer given the years of control they still have on him...I like Lugo, he is a perfect match for the Astros. Hopefully, Luhnow is negotiating for Lugo,too. He and Castellanos could solve two problems for us. I just can't get rid of the feeling that he is going to get Realmuto some way or another. I am just hoping Realmuto is a smoke screen...That Luhnow maybe talking to other GMs on trades and these GMs want to land a deal with him, before he trades away one of the prospect they of ours that could be in package for Realmuto. I would say what Jeter has gone through so far as GM has been a big learning experience to himself of what not to do...
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 13, 2019 17:16:48 GMT -6
Hopefully, Luhnow is negotiating for Lugo,too. He and Castellanos could solve two problems for us. I just can't get rid of the feeling that he is going to get Realmuto some way or another. I am just hoping Realmuto is a smoke screen...That Luhnow maybe talking to other GMs on trades and these GMs want to land a deal with him, before he trades away one of the prospect they of ours that could be in package for Realmuto. I would say what Jeter has gone through so far as GM has been a big learning experience to himself of what not to do... Who’s more successful as a front office executive, Jeter or LaRussa?
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 13, 2019 17:19:59 GMT -6
To me Nick Castellanos and Micheal Fulmer are the best bet. I still think Realmuto is comming to the Astros. Just trying to buy the time. Idk anymore Jeter is a bad owner slash what ever he is. Son, you’ve got to explain to us all why the Tigers would trade Michael Fulmer.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 13, 2019 17:35:21 GMT -6
To me Nick Castellanos and Micheal Fulmer are the best bet. I still think Realmuto is comming to the Astros. Just trying to buy the time. Idk anymore Jeter is a bad owner slash what ever he is. Son, you’ve got to explain to us all why the Tigers would trade Michael Fulmer. Idk kid you tell me why they wouldnt for good package?
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 13, 2019 17:55:05 GMT -6
Son, you’ve got to explain to us all why the Tigers would trade Michael Fulmer. Idk kid you tell me why they wouldnt for good package? My guess is that Fulmer would welcome a trade to the Astros or any other contender to get out of Detroit........that doesn't mean he will be traded.
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 13, 2019 18:38:03 GMT -6
Son, you’ve got to explain to us all why the Tigers would trade Michael Fulmer. Idk kid you tell me why they wouldnt for good package? He’s cheap, under control, and they’re rebuilding. There’s no incentive for them to just throw him into a deal that includes a highly sought after rental.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Jan 13, 2019 18:49:23 GMT -6
Realmuto news as of today
Padres have not been in contact with the Marlins for weeks if not a month.
Say the price is way to high not giving up Paddack.
They say they are out of the running no matter what anyone says
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 13, 2019 19:15:16 GMT -6
I am just hoping Realmuto is a smoke screen...That Luhnow maybe talking to other GMs on trades and these GMs want to land a deal with him, before he trades away one of the prospect they of ours that could be in package for Realmuto. I would say what Jeter has gone through so far as GM has been a big learning experience to himself of what not to do... Who’s more successful as a front office executive, Jeter or LaRussa? Jeter is pretty freaking bad..
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Post by olpapa on Jan 13, 2019 19:41:33 GMT -6
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Post by olpapa on Jan 13, 2019 19:55:35 GMT -6
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Post by olpapa on Jan 13, 2019 20:24:27 GMT -6
I would love to land Lugo. Great fit and probably wouldn't cost way too much. I am thinking the same, he would be a great get for the Astros....I think Strom could take Lugo's game to the next level, and many here will become fans of him....he is under team control for 4 years, so a long time for all of us to root for him... Crazy as it sounds, I rather have Lugo than Fulmer...yes, the anticipated lower asking price for Lugo than Fulmer is apart of my reasoning, but I just feel Lugo + Strom is the perfect match... When the Lugo rumors first came out I thought we stood a good chance of matching up with the Mets on a trade for him. At that time they were rumored to be looking for a outfielder (preferably a CFer), relief pitcher (preferably a lefty), backup infielder and SP depth. Since that time the Mets have added Broxton, JD Davis and Lowrie. Davis is one of the guys I thought we might send them in a trade for Lugo. It seems they have filled their need for a backup infielder. I thought we might send them Marisnick, but Broxton is cheaper all-glove no-hit guy than Jake. Do we have a lefty relief pitcher that we could spare and that they would want? If they are looking for bullpen help and SP depth, why would they trade Lugo to us now?
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 13, 2019 20:50:27 GMT -6
I am thinking the same, he would be a great get for the Astros....I think Strom could take Lugo's game to the next level, and many here will become fans of him....he is under team control for 4 years, so a long time for all of us to root for him... Crazy as it sounds, I rather have Lugo than Fulmer...yes, the anticipated lower asking price for Lugo than Fulmer is apart of my reasoning, but I just feel Lugo + Strom is the perfect match... When the Lugo rumors first came out I thought we stood a good chance of matching up with the Mets on a trade for him. At that time they were rumored to be looking for a outfielder (preferably a CFer), relief pitcher (preferably a lefty), backup infielder and SP depth. Since that time the Mets have added Broxton, JD Davis and Lowrie. Davis is one of the guys I thought we might send them in a trade for Lugo. It seems they have filled their need for a backup infielder. I thought we might send them Marisnick, but Broxton is cheaper all-glove no-hit guy than Jake. Do we have a lefty relief pitcher that we could spare and that they would want? If they are looking for bullpen help and SP depth, why would they trade Lugo to us now? <iframe width="29.860000000000127" height="7.079999999999984" style="position: absolute; width: 29.860000000000127px; height: 7.079999999999984px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_43723543" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="29.860000000000127" height="7.079999999999984" style="position: absolute; width: 29.86px; height: 7.08px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1427px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_60147773" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="29.860000000000127" height="7.079999999999984" style="position: absolute; width: 29.86px; height: 7.08px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 290px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_91734422" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="29.860000000000127" height="7.079999999999984" style="position: absolute; width: 29.86px; height: 7.08px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1427px; top: 290px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_59238837" scrolling="no"></iframe> Lugo may be a pipe dream. We need pitching beyond this season. That scares the crap out of me that Verlander and Cole could be gone. Cole will not give us a discount.
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Post by astrosdoug on Jan 13, 2019 20:51:55 GMT -6
it's looking like the odds of Realmuto to Houston have increased somewhat, from 15% a couple weeks ago to maybe 35% today.
With the Padres insisting they are no longer interested, and the Dodgers doing all right at C with Martin/Barnes, it may come down to the Braves and Astros. And Jeter would probably prefer not to trade with a division rival.
I don't think it's essential to add Realmuto. Honestly, I think Stassi in 2019 is going to be better than most fans expect him to be, and I think Realmuto will fall short of expectations somewhat.
In terms of pre-season projections, swapping Stassi for Realmuto would bring the Astros to about 52.2 total team WAR, so just a few tenths of one WAR behind the BoSox.
It would definitely be a scary lineup as long as everyone stays healthy.
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 13, 2019 20:53:48 GMT -6
it's looking like the odds of Realmuto to Houston have increased somewhat, from 15% a couple weeks ago to maybe 35% today. With the Padres insisting they are no longer interested, and the Dodgers doing all right at C with Martin/Barnes, it may come down to the Braves and Astros. And Jeter would probably prefer not to trade with a division rival. I don't think it's essential to add Realmuto. Honestly, I think Stassi in 2019 is going to be better than most fans expect him to be, and I think Realmuto will fall short of expectations somewhat. In terms of pre-season projections, swapping Stassi for Realmuto would bring the Astros to about 52.2 total team WAR, so just a few tenths of one WAR behind the BoSox. It would definitely be a scary lineup as long as everyone stays healthy. It's not that is dislike Realmuto, he is a great player. I just hope we don't give up the farm to get him. We have more pressing needs.
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