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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 24, 2019 11:55:41 GMT -6
I agree. I also thinks this opens the door for Realmuto to the Dodgers. Finally we may see the end to the Realmuto talk. Go Dodgers, trade for Realmuto....Go Phillies and White Sox, sign either Machado or Harper. ***** |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 24, 2019 12:09:24 GMT -6
This is where the Astros mess up. Js They resign that jack off you can almost certainly expect both Verlander and Cole to be gone we don't need Harper or Machado.....why bring a selfish jackass into the clubhouse to disturb team chemistry........GO GET PITCHING and forget these two jokers. We also don't need an over-priced BP pitcher like Keuchel. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 24, 2019 12:13:50 GMT -6
This is where the Astros mess up. Js They resign that jack off you can almost certainly expect both Verlander and Cole to be gone we don't need Harper or Machado.....why bring a selfish jackass into the clubhouse to disturb team chemistry........GO GET PITCHING and forget these two jokers. I agree, Astros don't need someone like Harper and especially like Machado to have a negative influence on the team chemistry, and to be bad influences for players like Bregman, Tucker....I would think Altuve would not put with them, he is all about baseball and the team. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 24, 2019 12:27:59 GMT -6
we don't need Harper or Machado.....why bring a selfish jackass into the clubhouse to disturb team chemistry........GO GET PITCHING and forget these two jokers. I agree, Astros don't need someone like Harper and especially like Machado to have a negative influence on the team chemistry, and to be bad influences for players like Bregman, Tucker....I would think Altuve would not put with them, he is all about baseball and the team. I don’t consider Harper as much of a jerk as Machado. |
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Post by marshall on Jan 24, 2019 12:30:50 GMT -6
Some small circles arsuggesting the Astros are the mystery team for Machado. Idk why he would fit unless he dHs. Until Correa gets on his feet. He would be cheaper then Harper. Idk if I believe it but ? I could only believe it if the Astros have determined that none of the pitchers going into FA will return, the ones available are overpriced for their abilities and they'll have to go with the young guns in the rotation along with McCullers. With the reduced money required for pitching, they might choose to double down on hitting with another bat. Anybody in a slump would have a hard time staying in the lineup with the current lineup and Machado. You might see a reduced role for Reddick, Springer and Gurriel, even if Correa returns to 2017 form. You might never see the same starting lineup two days in a row. |
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Post by marshall on Jan 24, 2019 12:41:39 GMT -6
That's just rehashed old news. That story could have been written at any time after Keuchel rejected the Astros $17.9M Minimum Qualifying offer. Rehashed reports happen when new news isn't happening. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 12:46:31 GMT -6
That's just rehashed old news. That story could have been written at any time after Keuchel rejected the Astros $17.9M Minimum Qualifying offer. Rehashed reports happen when new news isn't happening. This thread would be 90 pages shorter if VooDoo wasn't throwing darts at roster sheets.  |
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Post by paastrosfan on Jan 24, 2019 13:06:47 GMT -6
That's just rehashed old news. That story could have been written at any time after Keuchel rejected the Astros $17.9M Minimum Qualifying offer. Rehashed reports happen when new news isn't happening. Just watched "Mad Dog" he had Richard Justice on, the rumor still ongoing. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 24, 2019 13:26:21 GMT -6
That's just rehashed old news. That story could have been written at any time after Keuchel rejected the Astros $17.9M Minimum Qualifying offer. Rehashed reports happen when new news isn't happening. Just watched "Mad Dog" he had Richard Justice on, the rumor still ongoing. Let's just hope if a deal is made it is not longer than 3 years, 2 years would be preferable |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 13:38:00 GMT -6
Just watched "Mad Dog" he had Richard Justice on, the rumor still ongoing. Let's just hope if a deal is made it is not longer than 3 years, 2 years would be preferable Funny how the dynamics change as the hot stove embers cool to ash. In October most of us were wanting Keuchel out on a rail. Now we are praying for a reasonable signing with open arms. As big a fan as I am of Luhnow, I am somewhat puzzled by the lack of signing of quality starters, knowing McCullers is gone for a year. I believe he is either (1) throwing the dice that our young crop (Whitley and / or JB) will pan out big or (2) Pray that our 1/2 tandem of Verlander and Cole keeps us competitive until a trade deadline deal. (3) Or maybe variable combo of (1) and (2) In either case, this is going to be a risky endeavor. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 24, 2019 13:41:19 GMT -6
That's just rehashed old news. That story could have been written at any time after Keuchel rejected the Astros $17.9M Minimum Qualifying offer. Rehashed reports happen when new news isn't happening. The qualifying offer was a lot more than he's worth. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 24, 2019 13:43:35 GMT -6
That's just rehashed old news. That story could have been written at any time after Keuchel rejected the Astros $17.9M Minimum Qualifying offer. Rehashed reports happen when new news isn't happening. This thread would be 90 pages shorter if VooDoo wasn't throwing darts at roster sheets. We can be thankful that he will disappear when the season starts. The only time he shows up is during the off season and the trade deadline. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 24, 2019 13:45:36 GMT -6
Just watched "Mad Dog" he had Richard Justice on, the rumor still ongoing. Let's just hope if a deal is made it is not longer than 3 years, 2 years would be preferable I prefer ZERO years of Keuchel. Let somebody else pay him to get hammered. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 24, 2019 13:46:02 GMT -6
Let's just hope if a deal is made it is not longer than 3 years, 2 years would be preferable Funny how the dynamics change as the hot stove embers cool to ash. In October most of us were wanting Keuchel out on a rail. Now we are praying for a reasonable signing with open arms. As big a fan as I am of Luhnow, I am somewhat puzzled by the lack of signing of quality starters, knowing McCullers is gone for a year. I believe he is either (1) throwing the dice that our young crop (Whitley and / or JB) will pan out big or (2) Pray that our 1/2 tandem of Verlander and Cole keeps us competitive until a trade deadline deal. (3) Or maybe variable combo of (1) and (2) In either case, this is going to be a risky endeavor. I was for Keuchel accepting the QO...I would still rather the Astros not re-sign him if he wants 4 year deal or longer....I have a feeling in 3 years he will be more of a #4 or #5 grade pitcher but getting paid #2 or better type of money....by then he could blocking a prospect, or tying up money that could go to an important need... |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Jan 24, 2019 13:47:46 GMT -6
This thread would be 90 pages shorter if VooDoo wasn't throwing darts at roster sheets. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 24, 2019 13:49:20 GMT -6
Let's just hope if a deal is made it is not longer than 3 years, 2 years would be preferable I prefer ZERO years of Keuchel. Let somebody else pay him to get hammered. He has not been getting hammered....yet....but I think in the relatively near future that might change. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Jan 24, 2019 13:52:11 GMT -6
I prefer ZERO years of Keuchel. Let somebody else pay him to get hammered. He has not been getting hammered....yet....but I think in the relatively near future that might change. He’s hittable but wants big time money. That’s the problem in a nutshell. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Jan 24, 2019 13:56:54 GMT -6
I prefer ZERO years of Keuchel. Let somebody else pay him to get hammered. He has not been getting hammered....yet....but I think in the relatively near future that might change. He had a tendency to give up a lot of runs in the first inning and made us play catch up too often. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 13:57:31 GMT -6
I agree, Astros don't need someone like Harper and especially like Machado to have a negative influence on the team chemistry, and to be bad influences for players like Bregman, Tucker....I would think Altuve would not put with them, he is all about baseball and the team. I don’t consider Harper as much of a jerk as Machado. Agreed. I don't get the animosity towards Harper being a jerk. He reminds me of Bregman from an attitude standpoint. The only event coming to mind is when he got into it with Paplebon, but everyone knows Paplebon is a humongous jerk! |
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Post by Saint on Jan 24, 2019 14:15:37 GMT -6
Getting Keuchel at a reasonable price for 2-3 years would be a solid signing given our needs past this season. Dislike him all you want, but if he has three years like his last three years, you've got a very solid #3:
12-9 3.77 ERA 28 Starts on average from 2016-2018.
In this day of baseball, that's worth $10-15 mil a year.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 14:24:20 GMT -6
Getting Keuchel at a reasonable price for 2-3 years would be a solid signing given our needs past this season. Dislike him all you want, but if he has three years like his last three years, you've got a very solid #3: 12-9 3.77 ERA 28 Starts on average from 2016-2018. In this day of baseball, that's worth $10-15 mil a year. Agreed, but we have been backed into a corner where we might have to overpay a tad, for mid level rotation support. He turned down the $18M QO. Does Luhnow grit is teeth, and offer a $20M/Yr. 1 or 2 year deal? I sure as hell wouldn't pay any more than that. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 24, 2019 14:27:12 GMT -6
Getting Keuchel at a reasonable price for 2-3 years would be a solid signing given our needs past this season. Dislike him all you want, but if he has three years like his last three years, you've got a very solid #3: 12-9 3.77 ERA 28 Starts on average from 2016-2018. In this day of baseball, that's worth $10-15 mil a year. Agreed, but we have been backed into a corner where we might have to overpay a tad, for mid level rotation support. He turned down the $18M QO. Does Luhnow grit is teeth, and offer a $20M/Yr. 1 or 2 year deal? I sure as hell wouldn't pay any more than that. I would offer 3/45. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Jan 24, 2019 14:29:22 GMT -6
Where would you rank the Astros in favorites to sign Keuchel?
Here would be my current list
1. Phillies
2. Braves (my pre off-season favorite)
3. Astros
4. Padres
5. Brewers
6. A's (sounds crazy)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 14:30:36 GMT -6
Agreed, but we have been backed into a corner where we might have to overpay a tad, for mid level rotation support. He turned down the $18M QO. Does Luhnow grit is teeth, and offer a $20M/Yr. 1 or 2 year deal? I sure as hell wouldn't pay any more than that. I would offer 3/45. So would I since that is what he is really worth. OTOH, I doubt Luhnow would risk insulting him for a Lower salary that was offered previously. Scumbag Bora$$ sure wouldn't let him do that. |
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Post by marshall on Jan 24, 2019 14:31:04 GMT -6
Getting Keuchel at a reasonable price for 2-3 years would be a solid signing given our needs past this season. Dislike him all you want, but if he has three years like his last three years, you've got a very solid #3: 12-9 3.77 ERA 28 Starts on average from 2016-2018. In this day of baseball, that's worth $10-15 mil a year. Agreed, but we have been backed into a corner where we might have to overpay a tad, for mid level rotation support. He turned down the $18M QO. Does Luhnow grit is teeth, and offer a $20M/Yr. 1 or 2 year deal? I sure as hell wouldn't pay any more than that. Things have changed since he turned down the QO. He's now seeing teams are not going to pay him like PT Barnum uhg.. Boras said they would. I'd make sure the offer for a single year is under the QO since we lose the draft pick and any offer beyond 2019 averages less, even if it's front loaded. There should be some penalty for turning down the QO earlier. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 24, 2019 14:35:34 GMT -6
Agreed, but we have been backed into a corner where we might have to overpay a tad, for mid level rotation support. He turned down the $18M QO. Does Luhnow grit is teeth, and offer a $20M/Yr. 1 or 2 year deal? I sure as hell wouldn't pay any more than that. Things have changed since he turned down the QO. He's now seeing teams are not going to pay him like PT Barnum uhg.. Boras said they would. I'd make sure the offer for a single year is under the QO since we lose the draft pick and any offer beyond 2019 averages less, even if it's front loaded. There should be some penalty for turning down the QO earlier. But the team and the fans should not be penalized. We need pitching. Even though he is not a #1 or #2. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 14:36:27 GMT -6
Where would you rank the Astros in favorites to sign Keuchel? Here would be my current list 1. Phillies 2. Braves (my pre off-season favorite) 3. Astros 4. Padres 5. Brewers 6. A's (sounds crazy) 1. Braves- 15% 2. Astros- 10% 3. Yankees - 10% 4. Phillies- 10% 5. Cubs- 5% 6. Another team- 50% Based on need, and propensity of team's dabbling in FA market at this time. |
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Post by bearbryant on Jan 24, 2019 14:39:14 GMT -6
Getting Keuchel at a reasonable price for 2-3 years would be a solid signing given our needs past this season. Dislike him all you want, but if he has three years like his last three years, you've got a very solid #3: 12-9 3.77 ERA 28 Starts on average from 2016-2018. In this day of baseball, that's worth $10-15 mil a year. |
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Post by abregmanfan on Jan 24, 2019 14:40:04 GMT -6
Getting Keuchel at a reasonable price for 2-3 years would be a solid signing given our needs past this season. Dislike him all you want, but if he has three years like his last three years, you've got a very solid #3: 12-9 3.77 ERA 28 Starts on average from 2016-2018. In this day of baseball, that's worth $10-15 mil a year. 4 years scares me. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 14:40:07 GMT -6
Agreed, but we have been backed into a corner where we might have to overpay a tad, for mid level rotation support. He turned down the $18M QO. Does Luhnow grit is teeth, and offer a $20M/Yr. 1 or 2 year deal? I sure as hell wouldn't pay any more than that. Things have changed since he turned down the QO. He's now seeing teams are not going to pay him like PT Barnum uhg.. Boras said they would. I'd make sure the offer for a single year is under the QO since we lose the draft pick and any offer beyond 2019 averages less, even if it's front loaded. There should be some penalty for turning down the QO earlier. No argument there, but losing face is probably not in the cards in Keuchel's case. One compromise may be the $15M we all are coming to consensus with, but maybe add some incentive clauses that can add up to another $10-15M per year. innings, wins, playoffs, etc. |
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