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Post by Saint on Feb 19, 2019 13:38:12 GMT -6
Quite frankly I don't think Harper is worth as much as Machado due to less defensive value. That being said, it will be interesting to see if Harper would settle for anything less than $300 million given more accolades on his resume.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Feb 19, 2019 14:10:58 GMT -6
Wonder who get Harper now?
Throw that money out there White Eox u butt hurt you didnt get Machado
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Feb 19, 2019 14:14:40 GMT -6
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Post by nathangarza29 on Feb 19, 2019 14:30:03 GMT -6
If the Phillies miss pit on Harper could we shop Reddick to the Phillies?
I'm sure we would have to throw in a couple prospects but what if?
I like Nick William's wonder if we could get him?
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Post by thomasj13 on Feb 19, 2019 14:36:43 GMT -6
Manny won't want a strike. You bet. Everyone thought Machado was a nut case. I think the vote now goes to the person who would give him $300M. Excellent Post |
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Post by blcoach8 on Feb 19, 2019 14:42:24 GMT -6
Yuli doesn't suck nearly as bad as some uou want to replace him. He will be the starting first baseman I agree but it doesn’t hurt to try and get more pitching. i am all for more pitching. not sure Miley is the answer. i would have preferred someone else......but,not Keuchel at the price he wants. He and Boras are probably sweating now. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Feb 19, 2019 14:44:53 GMT -6
I am home from my stay in a hospital following foot surgery due to infection caused by my diahetes; will try to read and catch up......not sure how I feel about signing Miley. Welcome back, you old curmudgeon. <iframe width="34.1400000000001" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 34.1400000000001px; height: 4.840000000000003px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_41301949" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="34.1400000000001" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 34.14px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1636px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_90888455" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="34.1400000000001" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 34.14px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 181px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_53553915" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="34.1400000000001" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 34.14px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1636px; top: 181px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_91758472" scrolling="no"></iframe> glad to be home and on the board. nice to know that I was missed.  |
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Post by blcoach8 on Feb 19, 2019 14:46:51 GMT -6
Looking like Stroman wants out of Toronto. I’m guessing Luhnow is staying in contact with the Blue Jays GM. They have made deals in the past. Luhnow has plenty to offer. It's one of the hottest rumors out there Stroman to Houston. Let's hope that happens. you sent Stroman to Houston over a month ago and he still hasn't arrived. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Feb 19, 2019 14:48:11 GMT -6
I am home from my stay in a hospital following foot surgery due to infection caused by my diahetes; will try to read and catch up......not sure how I feel about signing Miley. Hey Coach welcome back. thanks. glad to be back |
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Post by blcoach8 on Feb 19, 2019 14:50:54 GMT -6
I am home from my stay in a hospital following foot surgery due to infection caused by my diahetes; will try to read and catch up......not sure how I feel about signing Miley. Welcome back Corch! Miley isn't the sexiest pick up, but it will help with SP depth. thanks and glad to be back. we could do worse than miley but I hoped for better. stroman sounds goo depending on what they want for him. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Feb 19, 2019 14:53:01 GMT -6
Question: would you guys prefer Keuchel or Stroman? Stroman hands down. |
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Post by paastrosfan on Feb 19, 2019 15:00:03 GMT -6
I didn't get all of the details, just read the headlines on the internet. Now Harper is on the clock, he turned down that kind of money with the Nats. Let's see what he settles for. The Phillies look like a kid in a candy store, you keep hearing they want Dallas, but I assume they believe he will be available on the back burner. The Bank would be a great park for Harper to hit in. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 15:52:48 GMT -6
I agree but it doesn’t hurt to try and get more pitching. i am all for more pitching. not sure Miley is the answer. i would have preferred someone else......but,not Keuchel at the price he wants. He and Boras are probably sweating now. Anxiety for being unsigned + A beard worthy of "The Big Thicket". =. One helluva case of face hives. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Feb 19, 2019 16:05:54 GMT -6
i am all for more pitching. not sure Miley is the answer. i would have preferred someone else......but,not Keuchel at the price he wants. He and Boras are probably sweating now. Anxiety for being unsigned + A beard worthy of "The Big Thicket". =. One helluva case of face hives. <iframe width="34.1400000000001" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 34.1400000000001px; height: 4.840000000000003px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_43820599" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="34.1400000000001" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 34.14px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1636px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_17958451" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="34.1400000000001" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 34.14px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 181px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_53067610" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="34.1400000000001" height="4.840000000000003" style="position: absolute; width: 34.14px; height: 4.84px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1636px; top: 181px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_84889357" scrolling="no"></iframe> Both of them greatly over-rated the demand for a BP pitcher |
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Post by bearbryant on Feb 19, 2019 16:26:57 GMT -6
apparently the problem with Devo last year .. he lowered his release point and it cost him 2 inches of break on his fastball
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Post by Saint on Feb 19, 2019 16:34:30 GMT -6
apparently the problem with Devo last year .. he lowered his release point and it cost him 2 inches of break on his fastball Something dramatic happened for him to take such a nose dive. The command was still there but his hit rate skyrocketed. If they can get that corrected that would be a huge boost to the bullpen. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Feb 19, 2019 23:19:51 GMT -6
apparently the problem with Devo last year .. he lowered his release point and it cost him 2 inches of break on his fastball Something dramatic happened for him to take such a nose dive. The command was still there but his hit rate skyrocketed. If they can get that corrected that would be a huge boost to the bullpen. it got to the point that Devenski and Harris looked like twins.........both were terrible. |
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Post by bearbryant on Feb 20, 2019 8:37:52 GMT -6
Something dramatic happened for him to take such a nose dive. The command was still there but his hit rate skyrocketed. If they can get that corrected that would be a huge boost to the bullpen. it got to the point that Devenski and Harris looked like twins.........both were terrible. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 9:33:39 GMT -6
Excellent point. His descent from an AS to mediocre in that short a period was puzzling. Hopefully we will see him back to form.
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Post by olpapa on Feb 20, 2019 9:36:04 GMT -6
Manny won't want a strike. You bet. Everyone thought Machado was a nut case. I think the vote now goes to the person who would give him $300M. Precisely. The Pads are giving $300 million to and burdening themselves for 10 years with a guy who is a dirty, no-class, ball player who has stated that he is not the kind of player who is going to hustle to first base when he hits a ground ball to an infielder. They deserve what they will get when they get tired of his routine and have to eat a big chunk of his contract to get rid of him. |
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Post by Saint on Feb 20, 2019 10:33:57 GMT -6
You bet. Everyone thought Machado was a nut case. I think the vote now goes to the person who would give him $300M. Precisely. The Pads are giving $300 million to and burdening themselves for 10 years with a guy who is a dirty, no-class, ball player who has stated that he is not the kind of player who is going to hustle to first base when he hits a ground ball to an infielder. They deserve what they will get when they get tired of his routine and have to eat a big chunk of his contract to get rid of him. Maybe playing with some quality clubhouse guys like Hosmer and Myers will help with his attitude. And if it doesn't, they can drop him after the first 5 years when his production will likely start to decline anyways. I still think it's a solid deal for both sides given their situations. The Padres still have a fairly low team payroll with this deal so it's not like it's going to burden them financially. |
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Post by olpapa on Feb 20, 2019 11:30:37 GMT -6
Precisely. The Pads are giving $300 million to and burdening themselves for 10 years with a guy who is a dirty, no-class, ball player who has stated that he is not the kind of player who is going to hustle to first base when he hits a ground ball to an infielder. They deserve what they will get when they get tired of his routine and have to eat a big chunk of his contract to get rid of him. Maybe playing with some quality clubhouse guys like Hosmer and Myers will help with his attitude. And if it doesn't, they can drop him after the first 5 years when his production will likely start to decline anyways. I still think it's a solid deal for both sides given their situations. The Padres still have a fairly low team payroll with this deal so it's not like it's going to burden them financially. I thought the opt out after 5 was just a player option. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 11:33:12 GMT -6
Maybe playing with some quality clubhouse guys like Hosmer and Myers will help with his attitude. And if it doesn't, they can drop him after the first 5 years when his production will likely start to decline anyways. I still think it's a solid deal for both sides given their situations. The Padres still have a fairly low team payroll with this deal so it's not like it's going to burden them financially. I thought the opt out after 5 was just a player option. IF so.... $10 bet says he is a Carlos Lee clone by 2029. I haven't used the term El Cabusto in years. (Never forget) |
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Post by Saint on Feb 20, 2019 11:40:12 GMT -6
Maybe playing with some quality clubhouse guys like Hosmer and Myers will help with his attitude. And if it doesn't, they can drop him after the first 5 years when his production will likely start to decline anyways. I still think it's a solid deal for both sides given their situations. The Padres still have a fairly low team payroll with this deal so it's not like it's going to burden them financially. I thought the opt out after 5 was just a player option. I don't think they've released the final details. I guess I figured it was a mutual option. You might be right. Still worth the gamble for a team in their position, imo. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Feb 20, 2019 11:46:55 GMT -6
I thought the opt out after 5 was just a player option. I don't think they've released the final details. I guess I figured it was a mutual option. You might be right. Still worth the gamble for a team in their position, imo. So glad Pads signed him. |
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Post by Saint on Feb 20, 2019 11:48:58 GMT -6
I don't think they've released the final details. I guess I figured it was a mutual option. You might be right. Still worth the gamble for a team in their position, imo. So glad Pads signed him. Better than if the Yankees got him. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Feb 20, 2019 12:19:38 GMT -6
The worst part of Manny Machado going to San Diego is the fact he will pay 40m over 10 yrs to Crylafornia in Taxes.
Why dont people see that state sucks badly
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Post by Saint on Feb 20, 2019 12:33:11 GMT -6
The taxes suck, but there are worse places for a young rich male to spend the bulk of his year.
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Post by marshall on Feb 20, 2019 12:38:30 GMT -6
Precisely. The Pads are giving $300 million to and burdening themselves for 10 years with a guy who is a dirty, no-class, ball player who has stated that he is not the kind of player who is going to hustle to first base when he hits a ground ball to an infielder. They deserve what they will get when they get tired of his routine and have to eat a big chunk of his contract to get rid of him. Maybe playing with some quality clubhouse guys like Hosmer and Myers will help with his attitude. And if it doesn't, they can drop him after the first 5 years when his production will likely start to decline anyways. I still think it's a solid deal for both sides given their situations. The Padres still have a fairly low team payroll with this deal so it's not like it's going to burden them financially. It was my understanding that he has the option at year 5. If it's a mutual option, then it is essentially a five year $150M deal. I think they're stuck if he doesn't produce and will lose him if the unexspected happens and he outperforms his contract.
It sounds like a lose lose for the Padres to me.
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Post by abregmanfan on Feb 20, 2019 12:45:40 GMT -6
Maybe playing with some quality clubhouse guys like Hosmer and Myers will help with his attitude. And if it doesn't, they can drop him after the first 5 years when his production will likely start to decline anyways. I still think it's a solid deal for both sides given their situations. The Padres still have a fairly low team payroll with this deal so it's not like it's going to burden them financially. It was my understanding that he has the option at year 5. If it's a mutual option, then it is essentially a five year $150M deal. I think they're stuck if he doesn't produce and will lose him if the unexspected happens and he outperforms his contract.
It sounds like a lose lose for the Padres to me.
I am glad he is in the National league. I know he doesn't give 100% effort but I would hate to face him in the playoffs. |
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