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Post by nathangarza29 on Mar 7, 2019 13:59:31 GMT -6
Keuchal should not come back here. If he does its 1yr only. Js.
He isnt worth what he or Boras thinks.
The issue i have is if he wanted to be here he woulda took that QO.
But he showed his true colors.
F him. Thats what i say
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 14:12:51 GMT -6
Keuchal should not come back here. If he does its 1yr only. Js. He is worth what he or Boras thinks. The issue i have is if he wanted to be here he woulda took that QA. But he showed gis true colors. F him. Thats what i say QA? Questions and answers?
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Post by bearbryant on Mar 7, 2019 14:34:57 GMT -6
I'm slowly getting around to giving everyone their own, personal forum title. I need input on what to name bearbryant, paastrosfan, and abregmanfan. And maybe others, once they start posting again. I purposely skipped a couple because of my suspicion that they'll get offended by it. Funny thing is that some have had their title for a while, but don't realize it because they post via phone rather than computer. I feel stupid after reading some of these comments. I'm ashamed I only have a high school education. But hey, we all love baseball right? There are millions in this country who are tired of the elitist lip when it comes to universal college education. They're doing what they want to do, and they're getting along fine without it I say that as someone with college degrees
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Post by bearbryant on Mar 7, 2019 14:46:24 GMT -6
Keuchal should not come back here. If he does its 1yr only. Js. I'd love to see Keuchel back on a 2-yr deal and announce at the dais he's firing his agent. If he's back on a 3-yr deal that's cool too. He's durable and was a solid mid-rotation starter for us
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 7, 2019 14:48:51 GMT -6
I feel stupid after reading some of these comments. I'm ashamed I only have a high school education. But hey, we all love baseball right? There are millions in this country who are tired of the elitist lip when it comes to universal college education. They're doing what they want to do, and they're getting along fine without it I say that as someone with college degreesMike Rowe is leading that charge, and to good effect.
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Post by bearbryant on Mar 7, 2019 14:52:49 GMT -6
There are millions in this country who are tired of the elitist lip when it comes to universal college education. They're doing what they want to do, and they're getting along fine without it I say that as someone with college degrees Mike Rowe is leading that chargge, and to good effect. Trump's the first President I've heard advocate for vocational education in my lifetime as well. I'm sure it was common before the Vietnam era for Presidents to do that
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 7, 2019 15:35:00 GMT -6
Mike Rowe is leading that chargge, and to good effect. Trump's the first President I've heard advocate for vocational education in my lifetime as well. I'm sure it was common before the Vietnam era for Presidents to do thatTrump is a strong advocate for vocational education and it's long overdue. Our colleges and universities are mostly dominated by liberals who want to shove their agenda down the throats of our kids. We have thousands of kids graduating with worthless degrees that don't qualify them to hold a decent job. Those with vocational training are getting good jobs with good salaries and don't have a bunch of college loans to pay off.
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 7, 2019 15:52:46 GMT -6
Keuchal should not come back here. If he does its 1yr only. Js. He isnt worth what he or Boras thinks. The issue i have is if he wanted to be here he woulda took that QO. But he showed his true colors. F him. Thats what i say You realize that players prefer long term deals, right?
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 7, 2019 15:56:03 GMT -6
Keuchal should not come back here. If he does its 1yr only. Js. I'd love to see Keuchel back on a 2-yr deal and announce at the dais he's firing his agent. If he's back on a 3-yr deal that's cool too. He's durable and was a solid mid-rotation starter for usI only want Keuchel back because I’m not optimistic about Luhnow fighting off suitors for JV and Cole.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 7, 2019 15:59:36 GMT -6
Saw a tweet that Houston has made 1 and 2 year offers to DK, but that the money isn't close to what DK is asking.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 17:47:38 GMT -6
Saw a tweet that Houston has made 1 and 2 year offers to DK, but that the money isn't close to what DK is asking. Seeing the same reports. Wonder at what point Kuechel realizes that the longer he waits, the longer it will take for him to be opening day ready,
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 17:50:31 GMT -6
Keuchal should not come back here. If he does its 1yr only. Js. I'd love to see Keuchel back on a 2-yr deal and announce at the dais he's firing his agent. If he's back on a 3-yr deal that's cool too. He's durable and was a solid mid-rotation starter for usI could live with a cost effective 3yr term, as I don't see him regressing so badly that he couldn't be at least a long relief specialist by Year 3. But again only if the price is right.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Mar 7, 2019 17:55:23 GMT -6
Saw a tweet that Houston has made 1 and 2 year offers to DK, but that the money isn't close to what DK is asking. Thats meens qe are on the same age. He wants way to mch money for a avg pitcher. 4.00 eraish isnt worth 20m per
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Post by nathangarza29 on Mar 7, 2019 17:57:15 GMT -6
Keuchal should not come back here. If he does its 1yr only. Js. He isnt worth what he or Boras thinks. The issue i have is if he wanted to be here he woulda took that QO. But he showed his true colors. F him. Thats what i say You realize that players prefer long term deals, right? And you realize he isnt a 20m dollar pitcher. And a 1 yr deal to get to next year FA would be ideal for him. Astros should not be looking long term for him. He just isnt worth it. 20m per is rediculas. 10 is about par for him.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Mar 7, 2019 17:59:09 GMT -6
Rosenthal has said the Astros prefer a 1yr deal with an option on a 2nd
But the value of the contract figures are way to high for the Astros to swallow.
Wanting 5yrs 100m Is not in the Astros plans.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 18:02:55 GMT -6
You realize that players prefer long term deals, right? 10 is about par for him. Look at this list of all players ranked and get back with us. Is he worth his asking price?....no. But $10M. Sheeeesh......Your Kuechel hate is puzzling. link
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 7, 2019 18:17:23 GMT -6
Saw a tweet that Houston has made 1 and 2 year offers to DK, but that the money isn't close to what DK is asking. He turned down our QO. If he won't accept what is offered now, tell him to go to hell and move on.
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 7, 2019 18:18:21 GMT -6
Rosenthal has said the Astros prefer a 1yr deal with an option on a 2nd But the value of the contract figures are way to high for the Astros to swallow. Wanting 5yrs 100m Is not in the Astros plans. He is not getting that from anyone which is why he is still without a job
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 19:46:13 GMT -6
Rosenthal has said the Astros prefer a 1yr deal with an option on a 2nd But the value of the contract figures are way to high for the Astros to swallow. Wanting 5yrs 100m Is not in the Astros plans. He is not getting that from anyone which is why he is still without a job That type of money should only be offered to Cole and JV.
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Post by thomasj13 on Mar 7, 2019 19:57:08 GMT -6
Astros are in good position with Keuchel, if he takes a one or two-year deal, then that's good for the team. If he signs with a longer deal with the Phillies, then Astros get compensation. Therefore, it's a win-win situation
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 7, 2019 20:42:22 GMT -6
Astros are in good position with Keuchel, if he takes a one or two-year deal, then that's good for the team. If he signs with a longer deal with the Phillies, then Astros get compensation. Therefore, it's a win-win situation sounds OK to me. I don't think Luhnow will give in and give him what he wants, We hold the cards
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 7, 2019 20:47:53 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 20:48:12 GMT -6
The buzz is that Keuchel turned down the 1 and 2 year offers we presented to him today. He wants a longer contract and more money yearly.
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Post by thomasj13 on Mar 7, 2019 21:00:38 GMT -6
Astros are in good position with Keuchel, if he takes a one or two-year deal, then that's good for the team. If he signs with a longer deal with the Phillies, then Astros get compensation. Therefore, it's a win-win situation sounds OK to me. I don't think Luhnow will give in and give him what he wants, We hold the cards Keuchel is no longer an ace, he is an innings eater...he is a poor team's #2 and a good team's #4... Astros, despite their need for pitching, do not and should not pay him #2 type of money....well at least for multiple years.
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Post by thomasj13 on Mar 7, 2019 21:03:02 GMT -6
The buzz is that Keuchel turned down the 1 and 2 year offers we presented to him today. He wants a longer contract and more money yearly. I just don't think he understands that no team wants to pay him a five-year deal. His best option right now is a 2 year with a third year team option. That stands to be the best he's going to get as far as term in years. Next year free agent starting pitchers are better than this year's, so it's not like he's going to get a better deal next year
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Post by abregmanfan on Mar 7, 2019 22:02:11 GMT -6
Offer him a 3/50 contract.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Mar 7, 2019 22:53:08 GMT -6
Offer him a 3/50 contract. Wouldnt offer him nothing near a three
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Post by nathangarza29 on Mar 7, 2019 22:58:26 GMT -6
Keuchal is very greedy. Boras is even more greedy.
Keuchal had a QO. And rejected it. Boras and Keuchal thing they can get a 100m dollar offer.
Where? Not from us. He has to come at a bargin deal. His value is trashed.its been said as much. His 1st innings are killing him and he just doeant punch anyone out hardly.
Its not enough to warrent the money he demands.
If you want him back with the Astros, then you are not a business type person and sees the notion of him being a pointless signing. You are a fan who wants there fav player back.
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 7, 2019 22:59:16 GMT -6
sounds OK to me. I don't think Luhnow will give in and give him what he wants, We hold the cards Keuchel is no longer an ace, he is an innings eater...he is a poor team's #2 and a good team's #4... Astros, despite their need for pitching, do not and should not pay him #2 type of money....well at least for multiple years. He is only worth what we would pay our #4 starter. Let him sweat.........I'd rather not have him.
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 7, 2019 23:00:24 GMT -6
Offer him a 3/50 contract. I'd go 2 yrs and 25 million. If he won't take it, piss on him.
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