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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 7, 2019 23:01:59 GMT -6
Keuchal is very greedy. Boras is even more greedy. Keuchal had a QO. And rejected it. Boras and Keuchal thing they can get a 100m dollar offer. Where? Not from us. He has to come at a bargin deal. His value is trashed.its been said as much. His 1st innings are killing him and he just doeant punch anyone out hardly. Its not enough to warrent the money he demands. If you want him back with the Astros, then you are not a business type person and sees the notion of him being a pointless signing. You are a fan who wants there fav player back. If keuchel was going to get a contract like he and Boras want, he would have had it by now. If he is too proud to accept what we offer, forget him |
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Post by astrosdoug on Mar 7, 2019 23:09:34 GMT -6
Cionel Perez is slated to get a start on Wednesday. He could play a significant role on the big league club this year if certain things play out right.
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Post by Saint on Mar 7, 2019 23:19:33 GMT -6
Lot of people here judging a guy trying to make more money. None of us would turn down trying to get more money. Just saying.
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Post by blcoach8 on Mar 7, 2019 23:27:13 GMT -6
Lot of people here judging a guy trying to make more money. None of us would turn down trying to get more money. Just saying. That conceited jackass has turned into a batting practice pitcher and still wants to be paid like an ace.........piss on him |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Mar 7, 2019 23:44:12 GMT -6
Lot of people here judging a guy trying to make more money. None of us would turn down trying to get more money. Just saying. That conceited jackass has turned into a batting practice pitcher and still wants to be paid like an ace.........piss on him To over value yourself and higher the jackass of jackass agents. Sure its the teams faults. It the fans faults. Wrong he has a number he is at. He is sticking to it the fact the Astros even made three offers QO, a one uear and a two year. Surely tells you how they value him. And hia response was hell no im worth way more. So he wants a offer in the 19 yo 25 range over X amount of years. He can look else where. Keuchal is pure horse turds and good luck to him and his next team. They both qill need it. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Mar 8, 2019 6:01:01 GMT -6
Those of you who can get to MMP need to tell us about the Astros' new beer
Is it worthy of the Astros colors on the can?
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Post by thomasj13 on Mar 8, 2019 6:11:43 GMT -6
Those of you who can get to MMP need to tell us about the Astros' new beer Is it worthy of the Astros colors on the can? I have had it. It tastes like a Shiner Bock, but a little bit better....But as fast Karbach goes: Hopadillo is my favorite, and it is toss up between Rodeo Clown or Love Street. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Mar 8, 2019 6:27:50 GMT -6
Lot of people here judging a guy trying to make more money. None of us would turn down trying to get more money. Just saying. That conceited jackass has turned into a batting practice pitcher and still wants to be paid like an ace.........piss on him I don't think he is a BP, well at least not yet, maybe in a couple years he stands to be. Astros need an innings eater, and Keuchel would be ideal if he would sign a 2 year deal. Given the Astros need, and how Keuchel is the top FA left on the market, I would not be opposed to a 2 year/36M deal with a 22M third year team option (which I think would never be exercise d). You will scoff that is an overpay, but a 2 year deal for Keuchel; if you look at this year's rotation and even more importantly next year's, really matches the Astros big need. Best 1. 1 year deal with 2nd year team option 2. 2 year deal with 3rd year team option 3. 2 year deal 4. 1 year deal Not wanting, but if it had to happen - 3 year deal Hell no - anything longer than 3 years. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Mar 8, 2019 7:12:13 GMT -6
Well I have good memories of Shiner Bock, so if I ever get to MMP, I'm going to have to try this Crawford beer stuff.
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 8, 2019 8:37:19 GMT -6
I wouldn’t mind Keuchel coming back, and I don’t blame him for wanting more money. However, he needs to temper his expectations with his 200+ hits allowed last season. He’s an effective enough pitcher, but 2015 is ancient history as far as I’m concerned. I hope he comes to his senses soon.
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 8, 2019 8:38:46 GMT -6
Keuchal is very greedy. Boras is even more greedy. Keuchal had a QO. And rejected it. Boras and Keuchal thing they can get a 100m dollar offer. Where? Not from us. He has to come at a bargin deal. His value is trashed.its been said as much. His 1st innings are killing him and he just doeant punch anyone out hardly. Its not enough to warrent the money he demands. If you want him back with the Astros, then you are not a business type person and sees the notion of him being a pointless signing. You are a fan who wants there fav player back. If keuchel was going to get a contract like he and Boras want, he would have had it by now. If he is too proud to accept what we offer, forget him Well, if it isn’t the two of you agreeing on something for once. |
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Post by kj50tx on Mar 8, 2019 8:56:26 GMT -6
What is with all the Keuchel hatred? It is not uncommon for a player heading into free agency to turn down the 1 year qualifying offer to test the market. It isn’t a slight on the team who had every opportunity to sign him to an extension. I know that the Stros made him an offer and turns out that it was a good one that in hindsight, Keuchel probably wishes he would have signed. But who on this board would turn down the opportunity to increase their retirement nest egg if given that opportunity? I know I wouldn’t.
It is easy, Nathan, to bash someone for making a decision that you would never have the opportunity to make. Can you imagine doing your job and being scrutinized as though you are a horrible person for your clear lack of understanding the English language? What if your kids had to read horrible comments about their father because he can’t differentiate between “hire” and “higher”. No one on this board wrecks your character because your grammar and spelling are poor or because your takes lack any real insight.
I am glad Luhnow is in control and isn’t taking your counsel on acquisitions for this team.
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Post by olpapa on Mar 8, 2019 8:58:24 GMT -6
The buzz is that Keuchel turned down the 1 and 2 year offers we presented to him today. He wants a longer contract and more money yearly. Well you know what they say, “Want in one hand and poop in the other and see which one gets full first.” |
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Post by thomasj13 on Mar 8, 2019 9:00:53 GMT -6
I wouldn’t mind Keuchel coming back, and I don’t blame him for wanting more money. However, he needs to temper his expectations with his 200+ hits allowed last season. He’s an effective enough pitcher, but 2015 is ancient history as far as I’m concerned. I hope he comes to his senses soon. The days of silly money for years ago success seem to be gone.... especially for aging veterans. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 8, 2019 9:17:26 GMT -6
I wouldn’t mind Keuchel coming back, and I don’t blame him for wanting more money. However, he needs to temper his expectations with his 200+ hits allowed last season. He’s an effective enough pitcher, but 2015 is ancient history as far as I’m concerned. I hope he comes to his senses soon. The days of silly money for years ago success seem to be gone.... especially for aging veterans. Not for the Phillies. The Harper deal is crazy. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 8, 2019 9:29:32 GMT -6
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 8, 2019 9:33:21 GMT -6
I wouldn’t mind Keuchel coming back, and I don’t blame him for wanting more money. However, he needs to temper his expectations with his 200+ hits allowed last season. He’s an effective enough pitcher, but 2015 is ancient history as far as I’m concerned. I hope he comes to his senses soon. I think we tend to think of these things in a vacuum. No, the Astros haven't signed Keuchel...but neither has any of the other 29 teams, including many who are badly in need of a pitcher. As Astros fans, we discuss how he'd help us by being a number 4 or 5 whom we'd use to cover a couple hundred innings. There are teams out there on which he'd be their best pitcher by a long shot. Why haven't any of them signed him? Because his asking price/terms are out of whack with his perceived value. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 8, 2019 9:37:17 GMT -6
He’s an effective enough pitcher, but 2015 is ancient history as far as I’m concerned. So, you and Harris are A-OK now, amirite? |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 8, 2019 9:40:00 GMT -6
What is with all the Keuchel hatred? There's not a lot of hatred for Keuchel on this board. You just happened to stumble upon a string of posts where the two forum firebrands happen to agree on a subject. Most of us are at best indifferent to Keuchel. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 8, 2019 9:47:05 GMT -6
Looks like Machete was another victim of Boras. He turned down that 2 year offer from the Astros...and has now fired Boras and hired (or highered) another agent. |
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Post by astrosdoug on Mar 8, 2019 10:01:02 GMT -6
that's interesting news, if true, about the Astros offering Maldonado a contract. though I have to wonder who, at this late date, gave this information to Buster Olney. In his tweet he doesn't say who told him the Astros made such an offer. Astros FO? Maldonado himself? MM's new agent? NSA wiretap?  I'm sure Maldonado and his new agent would love for the rest of MLB to think that a top club like HOU wanted Maldonado for more than just a single-year contract. |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Mar 8, 2019 10:01:55 GMT -6
Keuchal is very greedy. Boras is even more greedy. Keuchal had a QO. And rejected it.Boras and Keuchal thing they can get a 100m dollar offer. Where? Not from us. He has to come at a bargin deal. His value is trashed.its been said as much.His 1st innings are killing him and he just doeant punch anyone out hardly. Its not enough to warrent the money he demands. If you want him back with the Astros, then you are not a business type person and sees the notion of him being a pointless signing. You are a fan who wants there fav player back. Some of your ranting points are rather irrational. Yeah, he turned down the QO. So what? It's a rarity for any player facing free agency to accept a QO. In an earlier post you cited "4.00 eraish" ... whatever that's supposed to mean. Fun Fact: Keuchel's 3.74 ERA places him at #30 in all of baseball last year for starting pitchers with enough innings to be a qualifier. Oh, and speaking of innings ... He ranks #7 for Innings Pitched. You claim: "His value is trashed.its been said as much." WHO said that? Someone whose opinion actually matters or some random dude on a message board or placing a comment on an article? Seriously ... WHO? Link to the source, please.
Is he worth his asking price for the number of years he's currently asking? Nope. But that's how this dance is done. He can't ask low then ask for more as the negotiations go on.
"Patience is a virgin." -- Archie Bunker
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 10:08:26 GMT -6
That conceited jackass has turned into a batting practice pitcher and still wants to be paid like an ace.........piss on him I don't think he is a BP, well at least not yet, maybe in a couple years he stands to be. Astros need an innings eater, and Keuchel would be ideal if he would sign a 2 year deal. Given the Astros need, and how Keuchel is the top FA left on the market, I would not be opposed to a 2 year/36M deal with a 22M third year team option (which I think would never be exercise d). You will scoff that is an overpay, but a 2 year deal for Keuchel; if you look at this year's rotation and even more importantly next year's, really matches the Astros big need. Best 1. 1 year deal with 2nd year team option 2. 2 year deal with 3rd year team option 3. 2 year deal 4. 1 year deal Not wanting, but if it had to happen - 3 year deal Hell no - anything longer than 3 years. Wondr if he would take a 5/$45M with incentives? |
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Post by Hunter McCormick on Mar 8, 2019 10:08:52 GMT -6
What is with all the Keuchel hatred? There's not a lot of hatred for Keuchel on this board. You just happened to stumble upon a string of posts where the two forum firebrands happen to agree on a subject. Most of us are at best indifferent to Keuchel.  |
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Post by astrosdoug on Mar 8, 2019 10:13:05 GMT -6
I was glad to see on mlbtr that the Astros have limited their talks with DK to 1- and 2-year deals. That's about as long as it would make sense to employ him.
Ultimately I'm indifferent as to whether DK returns. He adds a certain value but not extreme value, his personality is what it is... so a reasonable deal that takes those factors into account is fine. It sounds like Luhnow isn't going to overpay for him, which is good.
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 8, 2019 10:52:54 GMT -6
I wonder if Luhnow takes into consideration all of the comments DK made about the way the club was managed (regarding trades, specifically), or his comments during his last couple of seasons here where he made negative comments about the team not offering him extensions.
I remember one time seeing an interview where he said, in effect, "If they don't offer me an appropriate extension by <date>, they can forget about it. I won't bargain until after the season."
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Post by abregmanfan on Mar 8, 2019 11:33:37 GMT -6
Keuchal is very greedy. Boras is even more greedy. Keuchal had a QO. And rejected it. Boras and Keuchal thing they can get a 100m dollar offer. Where? Not from us. He has to come at a bargin deal. His value is trashed.its been said as much. His 1st innings are killing him and he just doeant punch anyone out hardly. Its not enough to warrent the money he demands. If you want him back with the Astros, then you are not a business type person and sees the notion of him being a pointless signing. You are a fan who wants there fav player back. Is it your money? If a greedy player can help us, why not sign him? I am glad you are not our G.M. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 8, 2019 11:43:02 GMT -6
He’s an effective enough pitcher, but 2015 is ancient history as far as I’m concerned. So, you and Harris are A-OK now, amirite? Harris can go to hell. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Mar 8, 2019 11:47:11 GMT -6
I wonder if Luhnow takes into consideration all of the comments DK made about the way the club was managed (regarding trades, specifically), or his comments during his last couple of seasons here where he made negative comments about the team not offering him extensions. I remember one time seeing an interview where he said, in effect, "If they don't offer me an appropriate extension by <date>, they can forget about it. I won't bargain until after the season." Player: I want $20 million a year. Management: We can give you an Amazon gift card. Player: That is an insult! We’ll talk again in a month! |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Mar 8, 2019 12:30:30 GMT -6
So, you and Harris are A-OK now, amirite? Harris can go to hell. LMAO, you're a hypocrite, AOC. |
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