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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 26, 2018 22:30:48 GMT -6
I dont know who that old GM was of the Marlins that's on MLB network but he said Realmuto will cost the Astros Tucker and Whitley and more.
The guy beside him laughed so hard he snorted.
When asked if Tucker was all that it would cost to get the Catcher all Agreed in a heart beat.
So no way in hell you trade both that's asinine.
But Tucker for Realmuto a premium postion player to lock up one of the hardest postions to find is as good as it gets.
The same Wierd GM suggested Salavador Perez and Whit Merrifield to the Astros for some prospects.
His suggestion was Merrifield to LF
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 26, 2018 22:55:17 GMT -6
I have come to the conclusion I dont want the Astros to trade Freudis Nova.
He is the insurance policy.
Before you ask or assume yes I'm talking about Carlos Correa.
What would Correa's price be if he does exactly what he does this year for the next years till FA?
What would your thoughts be about him?
And can you live with what he will command at avg production?
Part to would be I eat my words and he finally has a healthy season and hits above .300 avg and 30HRs.
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 26, 2018 23:07:56 GMT -6
I ignored it and considered the source. Jake is a top outfielder that we need to keep. Jake is not a top OFer sorry he makes alot of money that can be replaced by Straw GTFOH. He would be the first guy I would move in a money saving postion. Sorry if that hurts feelings but money will be an issue soon. And its easier to move small contracts rather then big ones Jake is one of the top defensive outfielders in the game......the best the Astros have in terms of defense. And, you don't know what the hell you are talking about if you say Jake makes a lot of money. He made $1.9 million in 2018. That is dirt cheap for an outfielder whose defense is as valuable as his. Jake is NOT where money can be saved. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 26, 2018 23:10:15 GMT -6
I dont know who that old GM was of the Marlins that's on MLB network but he said Realmuto will cost the Astros Tucker and Whitley and more. The guy beside him laughed so hard he snorted. When asked if Tucker was all that it would cost to get the Catcher all Agreed in a heart beat. So no way in hell you trade both that's asinine. But Tucker for Realmuto a premium postion player to lock up one of the hardest postions to find is as good as it gets. The same Wierd GM suggested Salavador Perez and Whit Merrifield to the Astros for some prospects. His suggestion was Merrifield to LF if we can get Merrifield and Perez for prospects.........not including Tucker or Whitley.........do it. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 26, 2018 23:12:03 GMT -6
Jake is not a top OFer sorry he makes alot of money that can be replaced by Straw GTFOH. He would be the first guy I would move in a money saving postion. Sorry if that hurts feelings but money will be an issue soon. And its easier to move small contracts rather then big ones Jake is one of the top defensive outfielders in the game......the best the Astros have in terms of defense. And, you don't know what the hell you are talking about if you say Jake makes a lot of money. He made $1.9 million in 2018. That is dirt cheap for an outfielder whose defense is as valuable as his. Jake is NOT where money can be saved. Surprisingly, I agree with him about Straw and Nova. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 26, 2018 23:12:15 GMT -6
I dont know who that old GM was of the Marlins that's on MLB network but he said Realmuto will cost the Astros Tucker and Whitley and more. The guy beside him laughed so hard he snorted. When asked if Tucker was all that it would cost to get the Catcher all Agreed in a heart beat. So no way in hell you trade both that's asinine. But Tucker for Realmuto a premium postion player to lock up one of the hardest postions to find is as good as it gets. The same Wierd GM suggested Salavador Perez and Whit Merrifield to the Astros for some prospects. His suggestion was Merrifield to LF if we can get Merrifield and Perez for prospects.........not including Tucker or Whitley.........do it. Tucker for Merrifield AND Perez? In a heartbeat. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 26, 2018 23:12:59 GMT -6
I dont know who that old GM was of the Marlins that's on MLB network but he said Realmuto will cost the Astros Tucker and Whitley and more. The guy beside him laughed so hard he snorted. When asked if Tucker was all that it would cost to get the Catcher all Agreed in a heart beat. So no way in hell you trade both that's asinine. But Tucker for Realmuto a premium postion player to lock up one of the hardest postions to find is as good as it gets. The same Wierd GM suggested Salavador Perez and Whit Merrifield to the Astros for some prospects. His suggestion was Merrifield to LF if we can get Merrifield and Perez for prospects.........not including Tucker or Whitley.........do it. I could go for that. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 27, 2018 0:15:31 GMT -6
Jake is not a top OFer sorry he makes alot of money that can be replaced by Straw GTFOH. He would be the first guy I would move in a money saving postion. Sorry if that hurts feelings but money will be an issue soon. And its easier to move small contracts rather then big ones Jake is one of the top defensive outfielders in the game......the best the Astros have in terms of defense. And, you don't know what the hell you are talking about if you say Jake makes a lot of money. He made $1.9 million in 2018. That is dirt cheap for an outfielder whose defense is as valuable as his. Jake is NOT where money can be saved. Well his projected is close to 3.5m in arbitration this year. So it's a bigger increase. So money saved no matter how much it is. Jake's biggest issue is his bat. You have a younger cheaper version of this guy Named Myles Straw. So before you start your dont know what your talking about speach cuz u wanna little Jake meat in your teeth. He would be a guy they move to free up that amount. Again there are many many DEF OFers in the league but ones that can Hit HRs Doubles triples and get RBIs. Not many. You would be completely stupid to think Straw can not replace Jake. And it would be cheaper for the Astros to do this. For big name players they can add to this roster. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 27, 2018 0:28:14 GMT -6
if we can get Merrifield and Perez for prospects.........not including Tucker or Whitley.........do it. Tucker for Merrifield AND Perez? In a heartbeat. No way Luhnow would trade Tucker for those two. Astros fans can all be glad you are not involved in evaluating players or making trades. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 27, 2018 0:35:25 GMT -6
Jake is one of the top defensive outfielders in the game......the best the Astros have in terms of defense. And, you don't know what the hell you are talking about if you say Jake makes a lot of money. He made $1.9 million in 2018. That is dirt cheap for an outfielder whose defense is as valuable as his. Jake is NOT where money can be saved. Well his projected is close to 3.5m in arbitration this year. So it's a bigger increase. So money saved no matter how much it is. Jake's biggest issue is his bat. You have a younger cheaper version of this guy Named Myles Straw. So before you start your dont know what your talking about speach cuz u wanna little Jake meat in your teeth. He would be a guy they move to free up that amount. Again there are many many DEF OFers in the league but ones that can Hit HRs Doubles triples and get RBIs. Not many. You would be completely stupid to think Straw can not replace Jake. And it would be cheaper for the Astros to do this. For big name players they can add to this roster. Look, you stupid son of a bitch....there was no call for that "Jake meat" comment. As I said, Jake doesn't make a lot of money and if he gets $3.5 million in arbitration, he is well worth it. If we want to get rid of an outfielder and keep Myles Straw, I'm all for it as long as the outfielder is Tony Kemp. Kemp is a below average outfielder with very little power. I didn't say Straw could not replace Jake, but, he has not proven.......yet........that he is as good defensively as Jake. I do wish you would grace some other board with your bullshit. You are wrong 95% of the time. You clutter up this board with your asinine trade proposals. Go post on the Rangers board.....if they have one......you would fit right in there. |
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Post by marshall on Nov 27, 2018 3:04:06 GMT -6
Jake is one of the top defensive outfielders in the game......the best the Astros have in terms of defense. And, you don't know what the hell you are talking about if you say Jake makes a lot of money. He made $1.9 million in 2018. That is dirt cheap for an outfielder whose defense is as valuable as his. Jake is NOT where money can be saved. Well his projected is close to 3.5m in arbitration this year. So it's a bigger increase. So money saved no matter how much it is. Jake's biggest issue is his bat. You have a younger cheaper version of this guy Named Myles Straw. So before you start your dont know what your talking about speach cuz u wanna little Jake meat in your teeth. He would be a guy they move to free up that amount. Again there are many many DEF OFers in the league but ones that can Hit HRs Doubles triples and get RBIs. Not many. You would be completely stupid to think Straw can not replace Jake. And it would be cheaper for the Astros to do this. For big name players they can add to this roster. Great outfield play requires both speed and skill (which includes anticipation, visualization and focus.) Jake has these in spades. I don't know if Straw has the skills to go along with his speed. I certainly don't want Straw to replace Jake as a defensive replacement until he shows the skills to take advantage of his speed.
I'm not saying he hasn't or won't develop the skills, but I haven't seen them yet. The organization probably knows if he's already shown skills in the minors or not. That's an advantage they have over a typical fan like me. At this point, all I know is that he's lightning on the base paths which doesn't always translate into defensive stardom.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 27, 2018 6:35:40 GMT -6
Straw over Jake all day
Cant teach speed
Next
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 27, 2018 6:38:32 GMT -6
And before u say that 95% of what I say is be. I only talk about what I've read in 65% of what I post.
JAKE MEAT
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 27, 2018 8:02:41 GMT -6
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 27, 2018 8:02:59 GMT -6
Well his projected is close to 3.5m in arbitration this year. So it's a bigger increase. So money saved no matter how much it is. Jake's biggest issue is his bat. You have a younger cheaper version of this guy Named Myles Straw. So before you start your dont know what your talking about speach cuz u wanna little Jake meat in your teeth. He would be a guy they move to free up that amount. Again there are many many DEF OFers in the league but ones that can Hit HRs Doubles triples and get RBIs. Not many. You would be completely stupid to think Straw can not replace Jake. And it would be cheaper for the Astros to do this. For big name players they can add to this roster. Great outfield play requires both speed and skill (which includes anticipation, visualization and focus.) Jake has these in spades. I don't know if Straw has the skills to go along with his speed. I certainly don't want Straw to replace Jake as a defensive replacement until he shows the skills to take advantage of his speed.
I'm not saying he hasn't or won't develop the skills, but I haven't seen them yet. The organization probably knows if he's already shown skills in the minors or not. That's an advantage they have over a typical fan like me. At this point, all I know is that he's lightning on the base paths which doesn't always translate into defensive stardom.
I believe in Straw defensively....Every time OlPapa posted a minor league stat, Straw was stealing a base and throwing out a runner...Hopefully he becomes the OB Machine he was for a good stint in the minors... So I agree with VD, and before he proposes this trade, I will second it in advance...Jake Marsnik (VD Spelling) and Sipp (who was not re-signed by the Astros) for Mick Trout, who before traded signs a 8 year/ $400M contract that the Angels will pay $350M of it. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Nov 27, 2018 8:05:04 GMT -6
He would be a consideration to be signed if the Astros traded away Kemp. |
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Post by Saint on Nov 27, 2018 8:09:50 GMT -6
Tucker for Merrifield AND Perez? In a heartbeat. No way Luhnow would trade Tucker for those two. Astros fans can all be glad you are not involved in evaluating players or making trades. A top-10 player last season that can play multiple positions and has years of club control left, and the 2nd best catcher in baseball with three more years of control at a reasonable salary for an unproven prospect that looked horrible so far? Dude, Tucker is just one kid. He's not Mickey Mantle. And was it really necessary to be insulting in your response? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 27, 2018 8:16:23 GMT -6
I’m with Todd. Tucker has a ton of promise, but he should be traded for a high price if you’re going to give him up. With all the pitchers we could theoretically lose, Whitley is basically untouchable.
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Post by unionstation82 on Nov 27, 2018 8:18:37 GMT -6
He would be a consideration to be signed if the Astros traded away Kemp. But wouldn’t it be redundant to have both Diaz and Dietrich? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 8:47:50 GMT -6
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 27, 2018 8:58:22 GMT -6
Straw over Jake all day Cant teach speed Next You are an idiot. Next |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 27, 2018 9:02:36 GMT -6
And before u say that 95% of what I say is be. I only talk about what I've read in 65% of what I post. JAKE MEAT You'd bend over and spread 'em for Realmuto or Syndergaard. I am not sure what you mean by "what I say is be", but, since you are basically illiterate,it probably isn't important. A few time a year, you sit on your ass and read stuff written by members of the baseball media and then show up here to propose these ridiculous trades that never pan out. If it gives you thrills, go for it. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 27, 2018 9:04:37 GMT -6
Now, the idiot NG will be waving pompoms and squealing for us to sign him. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Nov 27, 2018 9:09:49 GMT -6
No way Luhnow would trade Tucker for those two. Astros fans can all be glad you are not involved in evaluating players or making trades. A top-10 player last season that can play multiple positions and has years of club control left, and the 2nd best catcher in baseball with three more years of control at a reasonable salary for an unproven prospect that looked horrible so far? Dude, Tucker is just one kid. He's not Mickey Mantle. And was it really necessary to be insulting in your response? My response was my opinion. I understand that Tucker is unproven at the major league level, but, so was Bregman when he came up and flopped originally. I would not be totally opposed to dealing him for Merrifield and Perez, but, I would think we could add a couple of other prospects and keep him out of the deal. If KC truly wants to rebuild, they would be interested in two or three others in place of Tucker and I am saying give them three and not pick from one of three. |
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 27, 2018 10:02:02 GMT -6
if we can get Merrifield and Perez for prospects.........not including Tucker or Whitley.........do it. Tucker for Merrifield AND Perez? In a heartbeat. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 27, 2018 10:16:11 GMT -6
Adding Dietrich gives us extra insurance and makes it so your not tied down to J.D. Davis on the Roster or Reed
It would also make both Jake and Kemp expendable. Straw would be able to play every two to three days.Dietrich could play of upwards of 4 times a week if need be along with Diaz keeping the legs of Correa fresh and healthy.
On to the next point I would be happy at every point for a trade of Tucker as long as it's either Noah Snydergaard J.T.REALMUTO or a combo of Salvador Perez and Whit Merrifield.
Rather have Realmuto.
But to add to this. If you got Noah Snydergaard for instance after this year you could potentially let Verlanders high contract walk in FA. And have a manageable Salary across the board for pay increase and additions.
You also have to remember Lance McCullers comes back in 2020. So if and I say if they let Verlander walk. Your 2020 rotation could be
Cole
Snydergaard
McCullers
Whitley
James
All under 15m a piece and 3 under 3m a piece.
So try and think ahead
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 27, 2018 10:18:26 GMT -6
Tucker for Merrifield AND Perez? In a heartbeat. I would be ok with this as long as they can add Kyle Isbel |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Nov 27, 2018 10:19:01 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 10:32:57 GMT -6
I'm not saying I disagree with you. But you would prefer Thor over Bumgarner? Bumgarner is a proven WS champ and clutch pitcher. Again, not saying I disagree but just curious why you would be against Bumgarner assuming we don't have to give up Tucker or Whitley. |
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Post by bearbryant on Nov 27, 2018 10:42:35 GMT -6
I assume he's concerned about the mileage on MadBaum's arm
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