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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 9, 2018 23:17:58 GMT -6
Astos showing interest in Stroman and Sanchez of the Blue Jays Astos showing interest in Sale, Kershaw, Kluber, Carrasco, DeGrom, Corbin, Severino, Thor,Scherzer |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 9, 2018 23:28:46 GMT -6
Astos showing interest in Stroman and Sanchez of the Blue Jays Astos showing interest in Sale, Kershaw, Kluber, Carrasco, DeGrom, Corbin, Severino, Thor,Scherzer You forgot Trout, Lindor, Yelich, Blackman, Arenado, Harper, and Betts. |
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Post by m240 on Dec 10, 2018 7:03:53 GMT -6
there was a writer for one of the New York newspapers on the MLB network last night talking about what the Mets are trying to make a trade for Syndergaard. Their return in the trade would have to be MLB players in return or prospects that Miami would like in exchange for Syndergaard. They are tying to find a way to get Realmuto + for him. So wipe him off of our wish list.
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Post by m240 on Dec 10, 2018 7:10:04 GMT -6
It seems to me that the only two top or rotation guys who fill the need for 2019 and beyond for the Astros are Grienke and Kluber. If we do not get one of those two guys it signals in my mind that Luhnow thinks that the price is too high and that a couple of the rookies will take a big step up this year. He is willing to go the first couple of months of the season as audition time for as many as it takes to get those two guys to show themselves.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 10, 2018 7:16:19 GMT -6
Arizona has recently said it would be perfectly fine keeping Grienke.
TREVOR BAUR or Corey Kluber unless some outside name like Micheal Fulmer Marcus Stroman Aaron Sanchez etc.
But someone will be added via trade
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 10, 2018 7:18:36 GMT -6
there was a writer for one of the New York newspapers on the MLB network last night talking about what the Mets are trying to make a trade for Syndergaard. Their return in the trade would have to be MLB players in return or prospects that Miami would like in exchange for Syndergaard. They are tying to find a way to get Realmuto + for him. So wipe him off of our wish list. But Mets Dont wanna trade none of there OFers period. Mets and Marlins are playing the same game. Just different pages. No way they trade Syndergaard to the Marlins. And unless Mets unass OFers that's going no where. Almost every source says the same. |
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Post by m240 on Dec 10, 2018 7:44:54 GMT -6
there was a writer for one of the New York newspapers on the MLB network last night talking about what the Mets are trying to make a trade for Syndergaard. Their return in the trade would have to be MLB players in return or prospects that Miami would like in exchange for Syndergaard. They are tying to find a way to get Realmuto + for him. So wipe him off of our wish list. But Mets Dont wanna trade none of there OFers period. Mets and Marlins are playing the same game. Just different pages. No way they trade Syndergaard to the Marlins. And unless Mets unass OFers that's going no where. Almost every source says the same. The Marlins would not keep Syndergaard. If Syndergaard is traded it most likely would be a three way deal to get Realmuto plus another mlb talent in return. It is said they value Syndergaard higher than they rate Realmuto. So given the fact that both Miami and New York value their guys so highly Houston will most likely not get either. I do not think that Luhnow will wait around for the value to drop to an acceptable level unless it does so pretty quick. |
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Post by m240 on Dec 10, 2018 7:52:08 GMT -6
Arizona has recently said it would be perfectly fine keeping Grienke. TREVOR BAUR or Corey Kluber unless some outside name like Micheal Fulmer Marcus Stroman Aaron Sanchez etc. But someone will be added via trade Arizona does not like the level of talent that they are getting offered in return for Grienke so if the level of return goes up or the amount of money they have to send back goes down, he will get traded. For some reason they do not like Perez and Bukauskus and yet those are the guys we want to trade. Bauer is the kind of guy that makes you want to punch him in the face just for being who he is. So no way he comes here. Kluber yes, I can see him coming but the Indians want a butt load of talent in return as his contract is team friendly. Fulmer and Stroman are both guys with impressive talent so either one of those two guys would be great guys to get and the talent we would need to send back would fit more into what we want to give up. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 10, 2018 8:01:24 GMT -6
But Mets Dont wanna trade none of there OFers period. Mets and Marlins are playing the same game. Just different pages. No way they trade Syndergaard to the Marlins. And unless Mets unass OFers that's going no where. Almost every source says the same. The Marlins would not keep Syndergaard. If Syndergaard is traded it most likely would be a three way deal to get Realmuto plus another mlb talent in return. It is said they value Syndergaard higher than they rate Realmuto. So given the fact that both Miami and New York value their guys so highly Houston will most likely not get either. I do not think that Luhnow will wait around for the value to drop to an acceptable level unless it does so pretty quick. Yea idk it would be a crazy three way trade |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 10, 2018 8:03:21 GMT -6
Arizona has recently said it would be perfectly fine keeping Grienke. TREVOR BAUR or Corey Kluber unless some outside name like Micheal Fulmer Marcus Stroman Aaron Sanchez etc. But someone will be added via trade Arizona does not like the level of talent that they are getting offered in return for Grienke so if the level of return goes up or the amount of money they have to send back goes down, he will get traded. For some reason they do not like Perez and Bukauskus and yet those are the guys we want to trade. Bauer is the kind of guy that makes you want to punch him in the face just for being who he is. So no way he comes here. Kluber yes, I can see him coming but the Indians want a butt load of talent in return as his contract is team friendly. Fulmer and Stroman are both guys with impressive talent so either one of those two guys would be great guys to get and the talent we would need to send back would fit more into what we want to give up. Arizona lives in dream land unless they eat alot of money. Or package someone with value with him. Idk Lunhow surprises everytime we turnaround |
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Post by olpapa on Dec 10, 2018 9:56:54 GMT -6
This from Jon Heyman:
“Jon Heyman
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@jonheyman
Greinke’s 15-team no-trade list is seen as major impediment to deal. Greinke smartly included Phils, cards, dodgers - almost any big-market team. 2 teams that have shown interest in past not on are HOU and WASH, tho nats already got Corbin. Hou talked ZG last year. @zhbuchanan”
This from mlb.com:
“The Astros could be a good fit for Greinke, if the interest is still there. That's both from a need standpoint, as Houston could lose both Dallas Keuchel and Charlie Morton in free agency, and from a philosophy standpoint -- the studious Greinke and the data-driven Astros seem like they'd mesh. The Nationals wouldn't be as clear a match, since they've already signed the top free-agent starter on the market (and Greinke's former teammate), Patrick Corbin.”
It would seem that these two teams should be able to match up on a trade. Depending on how much of his contract the Astros would be willing to assume, the prospect hit we would have to take may or may not be significant. I would prefer Syndergaard or Kluber, but I don’t know if the Astros have the ML level players they are willing to give up for Thor and the cost in prospects for Kluber would be pretty high, I would think.
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 10, 2018 10:13:50 GMT -6
Arizona lost Goldschmidt and are losing Pollock. They even lost Owings. It’s in their best interest to get rid of guys like Greinke.
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Post by Saint on Dec 10, 2018 10:18:07 GMT -6
I think getting Greinke is a great idea. He wouldn't require a major prospect depending on how much money we ate, and he'd be ours for three years, which we need.
Verlander
Cole
Greinke
McHugh
James/Peacock/Whitley or Morton (?)
That's probably the best rotation in baseball on paper.
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 10, 2018 10:23:30 GMT -6
I think getting Greinke is a great idea. He wouldn't require a major prospect depending on how much money we ate, and he'd be ours for three years, which we need. Verlander Cole Greinke McHugh James/Peacock/Whitley or Morton (?) That's probably the best rotation in baseball on paper. I’m wary of Morton now that I think about how they took it easy on him the last month of the year. I often wondered where he was toward the end. They would briefly mention his shoulder and say it wasn’t a big deal. You never know. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 10, 2018 10:26:08 GMT -6
I think getting Greinke is a great idea. He wouldn't require a major prospect depending on how much money we ate, and he'd be ours for three years, which we need. Verlander Cole Greinke McHugh James/Peacock/Whitley or Morton (?) That's probably the best rotation in baseball on paper. I’m wary of Morton now that I think about how they took it easy on him the last month of the year. I often wondered where he was toward the end. Yeah but if it's a reasonable deal it just gives us more depth while we continue to bring on the young pitchers. That being said, I'm guessing we didn't offer him a very encouraging deal or he would have already signed. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 10, 2018 10:28:23 GMT -6
I’m wary of Morton now that I think about how they took it easy on him the last month of the year. I often wondered where he was toward the end. Yeah but if it's a reasonable deal it just gives us more depth while we continue to bring on the young pitchers. That being said, I'm guessing we didn't offer him a very encouraging deal or he would have already signed. Without Morton and Keuchel, they need help. Greinke wouldn’t be bad if they’re not saddled with too much money. |
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Post by Saint on Dec 10, 2018 10:32:43 GMT -6
Yeah but if it's a reasonable deal it just gives us more depth while we continue to bring on the young pitchers. That being said, I'm guessing we didn't offer him a very encouraging deal or he would have already signed. Without Morton and Keuchel, they need help. Greinke wouldn’t be bad if they’re not saddled with too much money. For somebody like him, I think a deal where we eat more of his salary upfront and then less each year would be the way to go. Supposedly we have some money available this year, so eat more this year, and then maybe $10-$15 less the following two years. |
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Post by m240 on Dec 10, 2018 10:37:24 GMT -6
A few weeks ago I said that I would love to get Grienke, Goldschmidt, and Pollock. Somebody said Phoenix east or something like that but I still think that Pollock and Grienke would be two great gets. Then add either Murphy, Cruz, or Martinez and call it good. Having Grienke as a #3 starter, really that rotation would be crazy good if they stay healthy all year and there is no reason it would not. We would score over 800 runs and give up less than 550. What is not to like.
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 10, 2018 10:41:53 GMT -6
With Grienke they would need to add stud and take back a garbage contract to atleast get the ball rolling.I.E. Archie Bradley
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 10, 2018 10:43:10 GMT -6
Billy Hamilton to the Royals
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 10, 2018 10:51:27 GMT -6
Billy Hamilton to the Royals Can’t steal first base. |
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Post by ɮօʀȶǟʐ on Dec 10, 2018 10:52:10 GMT -6
I think getting Greinke is a great idea. He wouldn't require a major prospect depending on how much money we ate, and he'd be ours for three years, which we need. Verlander Cole Greinke McHugh James/Peacock/Whitley or Morton (?) That's probably the best rotation in baseball on paper. I’m wary of Morton now that I think about how they took it easy on him the last month of the year. I often wondered where he was toward the end. They would briefly mention his shoulder and say it wasn’t a big deal. You never know. Based on Morton's autistic interviews, I really think he'd retire if his shoulder was a problem. |
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Post by m240 on Dec 10, 2018 10:52:11 GMT -6
Instead of us taking a garbage contract how about them taking Reddick and Smith as part of their return. That would be a 34 million reduction in our payroll for the next two years. They would be getting back productive players though so getting rid of those two contracts and 20 million back as well would work real nice.
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 10, 2018 10:52:16 GMT -6
A few weeks ago I said that I would love to get Grienke, Goldschmidt, and Pollock. Somebody said Phoenix east or something like that but I still think that Pollock and Grienke would be two great gets. Then add either Murphy, Cruz, or Martinez and call it good. Having Grienke as a #3 starter, really that rotation would be crazy good if they stay healthy all year and there is no reason it would not. We would score over 800 runs and give up less than 550. What is not to like. Has anyone seen anything if the Astros are going to try to extend Verlander and/or Cole |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 10, 2018 10:52:21 GMT -6
With Grienke they would need to add stud and take back a garbage contract to atleast get the ball rolling.I.E. Archie Bradley Are you talking about Arizona closer Archie Bradley? |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 10, 2018 10:53:39 GMT -6
Instead of us taking a garbage contract how about them taking Reddick and Smith as part of their return. That would be a 34 million reduction in our payroll for the next two years. They would be getting back productive players though so getting rid of those two contracts and 20 million back as well would work real nice. Brantley/Pollock/McCutchen would be imperative to sign in that case. |
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Post by thomasj13 on Dec 10, 2018 10:54:06 GMT -6
I’m wary of Morton now that I think about how they took it easy on him the last month of the year. I often wondered where he was toward the end. They would briefly mention his shoulder and say it wasn’t a big deal. You never know. Based on Morton's autistic interviews, I really think he'd retire if his shoulder was a problem. You are to saying autistic as millennials are to saying cool beans or kick rocks. |
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Post by unionstation82 on Dec 10, 2018 10:55:00 GMT -6
I’m wary of Morton now that I think about how they took it easy on him the last month of the year. I often wondered where he was toward the end. They would briefly mention his shoulder and say it wasn’t a big deal. You never know. Based on Morton's autistic interviews, I really think he'd retire if his shoulder was a problem. If Rain Man can still throw 95+ with a bowling ball heavy curve, I’ll take it. |
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Post by nathangarza29 on Dec 10, 2018 10:55:27 GMT -6
With Grienke they would need to add stud and take back a garbage contract to atleast get the ball rolling.I.E. Archie Bradley Are you talking about Arizona closer Archie Bradley? Yea they think Archie Bradley along with Zach Grienke and the Diamondbacks pay ten a year till deal is done would get them the prospect package they would desire. |
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Post by blcoach8 on Dec 10, 2018 10:55:37 GMT -6
I think getting Greinke is a great idea. He wouldn't require a major prospect depending on how much money we ate, and he'd be ours for three years, which we need. Verlander Cole Greinke McHugh James/Peacock/Whitley or Morton (?) That's probably the best rotation in baseball on paper. If we add Greinke, I would prefer to take on more of his contract than to deal away more good prospects to get him. He would give up a great top 3 in the rotation. I have always thought he was a jerk but he has been a great pitcher. |
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